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Movie franchises that excised sequels via canon discontinuity and ones that should
- Thread starter malyse
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there's zero references to it in Predators. that makes it look like they retconned it out of canon because the events from that movie should have been referenced in some way since there were many people who knew what happened with the Predators by the end of Predator 2 and there was even an organization that knew about them during it and they survived by the end.
Well, in my defense, I thought Predators kind of sucked, too, so... It remains to be seen what the next one will be like.
Tiffany is in both Curse & Cult. It downplays Bride & Seed, sure. But you can't really have Tiffany, in Jennifer Tilly's body, without recognizing Bride & Seed as canon.
I initially thought the DIsney Star Wars sequels were doing a "soft" version of this by essentially ignoring the prequels and dancing around them, but TLJ directly references them with the history of the Jedi Order and a mention of Sidious. They're still generally avoiding them, but not writing them off.
Rogue One uses actors from the prequels. So they seem to reference them when it's necessary. I think they were just mostly ignored in TFA because it's just so damn long after they took place. Haha
There were a lot of prequel haters who insisted that that's what they were doing with TFA (or who also say that they're "changing the rules" about who can be force sensitive after The Last Jedi, which, they aren't). Folks are still just mad that those movies exist.
It's only really goverment spooks that know about them and not much. End of Predator its kinda the same deal a couple of people in the know did you think the canon after Predator 2 is world knoweldge of the Predators?
I have seen articles with Robert Rodriguez saying he was looking at the original when making Predators. Wish he looked at it a little closer in some regards and less in others.
I think continuity ended with Hellraiser after Bloodlines. There was that one sequel that had an ending which brought back Kirsty for a cameo, but that was the last of the continuation.
It would be great if we could get a Transformers film that ignored all of the sequels, and got Michael Bay (and his style) the hell out. In fact, I'm shocked they haven't tried to make a live-action version of Transformers The Movie by now.
Also, The Howling. It's in dire need of a reboot that ignores every shit sequel with a competent director and a decent budget.
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I would love a Hellraiser sequel that ignored all the sequels. The first one was good, a real classic. The rest weren't. The second one was okay, but it went into the fantasy weeds and I wouldn't mind seeing it ignored.
Edit: oh we're already talking about that huh
Edit: oh we're already talking about that huh
I mean, TFA and TLJ take place more than 50 years after RotS ended. They're not avoiding the Prequels, there's just not much to reference to begin with given how far they're removed. Even then, TFA references clone armies and had some podracer flags as a small Easter egg, and TLJ mentions Sidious in a key moment, as you said. Further, Rogue One is littered with connections (Bail Organa, the casting for Mon Mothma, super tanks from RotS on the prison planet, Vader living on Mustafar, probably more I'm forgetting). Rebels references the Prequels heavily as well, meaning all three movies and the TV show from the Disney era have all had their connections. Lucasfilm isn't avoiding the them in any way, and Solo will almost certainly continue the trend given its timeline placement.
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The Godfather part 3 needs to not exist, or at least forget that final scene and give it more respectful closure.
Blues Brothers 2000 needs to not exist somehow as well. Maybe Elwood wakes up from a dream "Dallas" style.
Blues Brothers 2000 needs to not exist somehow as well. Maybe Elwood wakes up from a dream "Dallas" style.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious now, but a lot of people were saying otherwise (and I can see why) when it was pretty much just TFA we had to go off of. Maybe that was deliberate on Disney's part - a safe return before explicitly showing/referencing prequel stuff.
There is no highlander 2. It goes 1 then 3. Now let's never speak on this again.
Every Highlander movie except for the first is shit on some level.
I generally dislike these types of moves for franchises. New entries need to accept the past, good and bad, and move forward. Otherwise, reboot.
LOL, that movie got completely fucked over by meddling execs wanting it set in 2012 instead of 1992. Alexandra Daddario's supposed to be close to 40 in it.
The timeline ended up making absolutely no sense because of it.
http://comicbook.com/horror/2018/01/25/texas-chainsaw-massacre-3d-movie-timeline-problem-explained/
I dug the finished product, but I'm not sure why they chose to ignore Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2.
This is why I loved that movie so much.
An entire movie that was basically "yeah we fucked up, sorry!"
the thing that threw me off mostly was the complete abscence of their kids from Seed. like, what happened to them? no mention at all past Seed. i suppose there's still a chance they could bring back the kids given how they're bringing back other characters now.
i guess i gotta rewatch the whole thing one of these days since it's been years since i saw the rest of them.
given how little was known about the Predator after part 1, it seemd like the part 2 stuff would be enough to at least be referenced in Predators in the same way since, even if only very few people know, it'd be odd to completely disregard one of the encounters.
i wonder what direction the new one will take. will it be a sequel to the original only or will it acknowledge the others in some way?