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Movies where the hero slaughters mooks without pause but doesn't kill the super evil main villain to not taint his soul or something.
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Batman has tried to cripple the Joker multiple times and Joker always gets away or magically heals
Yea, I just remembered in The First Avenger he's shooting people too.
You know I think of Man of Fire. With the failed suicide bullet. It was a great scene and I'm sure he had his reasons, but he'd been so SO committed to that point. Maybe because the Father didn't know his daughter would be killed? I forget now.
I watched that piece of shit yesterday. Honestly the "superman kills people" stuff is not even close to the films worst problem.
I thought this thread was going to be about Batman. OP fooled me.
Burton's Batman is a stone cold mook killer.
Luke busy murdering all of Jabba's thugs like it's no big deal, but gotta keep that purity later.
Yeah and I feel like killing Nazis shouldn't count. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
I don't see why gamer upset about it. Killing henchmen for 20 hours is a gaming mechanic. Unless you can find a better option, its just part of realistic 3d video games.
Movie is different, you don't HAVE TO show the killings.
That brings up another issue. How many of these action movie mooks are women? Usually the number is zero, even in female-led movies. Applies to video games as well - the Tomb Raider reboot games are all about a woman going around an island killing men in increasingly brutal ways.
I've often seen MRA types bring this up and refer to this as the "disposable male".
Like isn't against killing, he just hoped to redeem his father. This trope doesn't really count when they're sparing someone they have a personal connection to
Most armies and PMCs don't have significant female representation.
Punisher S2 is a notable exception. Black Panther as well.
If they added female soldiers then those same people would cry about forced diversity and male genocide.
Oh man, this was so bad. In one episode he kills like 18 goons to get to the baddie in the house and then gives a speech to a person on a revenge mission to kill that baddie about how they should not kill. It was so hilarious.
There's this Steven Seagal movie called Urban Justice where his son is killed by a corrupt cop. That cop is on the payroll of a gang leader played by Eddie Griffin. Steven kills off a lot of gang members, kills the corrupt cop, but when it comes to the gang leader, this happens:
No, Luke correctly assessed that because of his conflicted emotions, he would never be able to defeat Vader one-on-one. And without Vader's help, he would not be able to take down the Emperor either.
It wasn't about Luke being pure, it was about Luke being practical and knowing his limitations. In the end, the goal of freeing people from the Empire was accomplished.
The whole CWverse suffers from this, but yeah especially Arrow. Diggle and Mad Dog just straight up shoot people. I get that they're most likely rubber bullets or something, but an arrow or rubber bullet is bound to kill a goon through internal bleeding at some point.
I never actually saw MoS but that's the scene everyone got upset about?
The bad guy forcing him into an unwinnable situation by threatening inocents and then him feeling bad afterward isn't really a big character problem.
It's probably the type of judgement Batman should have.
Its the dumbest in context. They legit kill millioms by flying through all of metropolis, then Zod uses eye beams when family could've just ran away in other direction as Superman held him.
The plot point is fine, just butchered.
The trick is then to have the villain pull some hidden weapon so the hero can kill them righteously. Happens so often
The problem is that the movie never once establishes that Superman has a problem with killing. It literally never comes up, and then the movie acts like it's the climax to a character arc that never happened. There's also the fact that it's about saving civilians when this Superman has shown a near-complete lack of concern for them during his fights previously.