Came here to post this lol.
If he ruined the game for you, install this. All better!
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Mr X has ruined Resi 2 Remake for me.
- Thread starter Stuart Gipp
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Came here to post this lol.
If he ruined the game for you, install this. All better!
In the A campaign he's there only long enough for you to wrap up two puzzles, complete your major objective and promptly despawns. Like I get it, but the idea of Mr. X is so much worse than the reality of dealing with him. As long as you plan your routes and you keep a few flash bangs on hand in case he does decide to turn up somewhere shitty, he can be trivialized pretty easily.
Police station would be empty without him. On hardcore difficulty there are more than enough tense moments, when he appear at the same time, while you are trying to run away from the zombies and lickers.
I cannot wait to read all of the complaints about Nemesis after Remake 3 is released. :)
I cannot wait to read all of the complaints about Nemesis after Remake 3 is released. :)
I agree that he's not really "scary" but I do think he works for what the game really intends which is to force the player into feeling a sense of urgency.
If it was the whole game it would be really annoying after awhile but thankfully it's really not that long of a section, just power through it.
If it was the whole game it would be really annoying after awhile but thankfully it's really not that long of a section, just power through it.
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I really feel as though I was pretty clear. He's easy, but he's a wall between me and objectives. He's time-consuming, and I don't think that's the same as being "hard". When I last booted up the game I found him directly in the path of where I needed to go multiple times, forcing a retreat. It wasn't scary, it wasn't difficult, it was just an annoyance.
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Well, yeah. I was enjoying playing it, then he showed up, now I'm not. I don't think that's particularly controversial.
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This has been a generally enlightening thread. I'll keep in mind the advice given here when I deign to go back to the game. Thanks.
You can seriously play around with him once you're a bit familiar. Already on my second playthrough I realized you can do things like stand behind a door he opens and he has such tunnel vision, he'll walk right past you for you to be able to slowly open and walk through the same door he came into.
Might not work in EVERY room, but it works like a charm in hallways and I've done it quite a bit.
Also if you're in a tight spot, you can easily bait him into an attack, which has a large wind-up and cool-down for him, and just run around him. Seriously, he's not that agile or fast. He also doesn't deal OHKOs or anything.
I think the imposing presence on your first playthrough is way more intimidating and stress-inducing than what he can actually can do to you and/or what he is to deal with.
Edit: And to reiterate, I hated the concept on 'paper', was pleasantly surprised how little he's actually around in a first playthrough and have come to actually think it's an integral part of the game that works in most ways that can't be assumed based on descriptions.
I can see him being annoying for your first blind run though route A and B but if you play after that he's nothing. You can delay him showing up and he only sticks around for a few minutes. Plus he is SUPER easy to bait and run past.
You literally were complaining about walking speeds and the ability to kite him, saying he was too easy, a "threat-free wall to navigate around". So dont give me the "I was really clear" when the op literally has nothing in the way of time constraints other than "Guess I can't go there yet. His presence has made the game tiresome", which again you claim you can kite him well enough, but not well enough to get where you want to go? I honestly dont get the critique cause it really isnt explained all that well in detail, I assume youre still in the station given hes gone after a while, but I know a bunch of areas in the station have multiple ways to go around, so I dont know what part you are specifically being snagged at. Its more about adjusting to the situation, really he can be threatening if the situation is bad
I kind of get it though. I think OP means Mr X adds more delay than tension. The goal behind his presence is to disrupt plans and push the player to adapt under pressure, but that doesn't always happen in practice. If the tension doesn't grab a hold of you, he essentially becomes a chore that merely postpones your goal.
He certainly didn't ruin the game for me but he is annoying and unnecessary. Bear in mind this is coming from someone who adores RE but doesn't really enjoy 3 because of Tyrant.
I find what's really off putting about him though is the way he lingers - I recall multiple instances of trying to wait him out but he seemed to just keep pacing the same stretch of hallway repeatedly. If he was just always marching around on the move, he'd be much easier to manage.
I find what's really off putting about him though is the way he lingers - I recall multiple instances of trying to wait him out but he seemed to just keep pacing the same stretch of hallway repeatedly. If he was just always marching around on the move, he'd be much easier to manage.
Good to hear, you will learn his behaviour and he will become much less of an annoyance. It's a great game, keep at it. :)
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Okay. I'm sorry if I didn't express my thoughts clearly enough. I can see where you're coming from and ultimately this thread has given me plenty of food for thought.
I definitely felt he was annoying, but his presence definitely shakes things up a bit on your second visit to the police station. Having run through all versions of the game on standard, I now appreciate what he brings to the game.
Yea I agree, and on top of that even if he does catches you...all he does is punch you. It's not even an insta kill (which admittedly would suck). I don't know what it's like on hardest difficulty but I was able to take 3 hits atleast without healing on normal.
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I've already played a good deal of that and found it a very different experience - as far as I could tell, if that Alien spotted me I was dead. If Mr. X spots me I just run until he buggers off.
First playthrough i thought Mr. X was awesome. Made the game so intense.
On my b - run, i kinda agree with you.
Dear lord.....lol. This mod plus the "X gon give it to ya" mod would have me in tears.Did you try using this mod?
Also, he can't see through glass panes it seems. He kind of busted me in the West Office and I walked into the little private office in there with the windows and blinds and just stood behind that to see what would happen.
He stopped at the door pointing towards weapon storage room, turned around and looked at the office I was standing in, didn't see me and proceeded through the door.
Moments like this have actually been surprisingly fun I think in the context of the game's splendid level design and puzzle-ish nature.
He stopped at the door pointing towards weapon storage room, turned around and looked at the office I was standing in, didn't see me and proceeded through the door.
Moments like this have actually been surprisingly fun I think in the context of the game's splendid level design and puzzle-ish nature.
I'm confused. If he's no threat then why is he stopping you going anywhere? He's easy to get around you are wildly over-blowing his impact.
Mr. X and the reanimating zombies are the primary reasons I loved this game. Created a tense game where you never really knew what was coming next, and there was always a feeling that the game could throw something new and unexpected at you.
Stuart Gipp, make sure to follow this up with your impressions if you give it another shot.
Curious to see how you'll approach the situations and feel about it after some of the input in this thread. For me, it just took really learning what the game was throwing at me. It's built for repeated playthroughs and begs to be learned in and out and half the fun so far for me has been being efficient, urgent and really exploiting its enemies. It's been addictive and fun as hell once I 'bent' to the game's systems.
Curious to see how you'll approach the situations and feel about it after some of the input in this thread. For me, it just took really learning what the game was throwing at me. It's built for repeated playthroughs and begs to be learned in and out and half the fun so far for me has been being efficient, urgent and really exploiting its enemies. It's been addictive and fun as hell once I 'bent' to the game's systems.
He has his moments, but he overstays his welcome. I would have much preferred a "randomly appears" mechanic where he could pop up at any time. Instead the opted for a a stretch where he is literally always following you for an hour or two, which, like you said, gets very tiresome when you have an objective to do and he's just in the way.
I think he'd be cooler if you unloaded on him he goes away for at least an hour and stop chasing you.
I think he'd be cooler if you unloaded on him he goes away for at least an hour and stop chasing you.
X is great, hell if anything, he isn't quite aggressive enough to my taste. I'd still like a higher difficulty mode where he's slightly faster and can enter all rooms.
I remember looking through the West Office glass door pane too and he suddenly walked straight past the door in the corridor without coming in.
There are loads of great moments created out the scenario.
Maybe he himself isn't that dangerous but if he shows up at the wrong time when you're dealing with other shit, it can get pretty intense.
First time I realized I can hide behind a door he opens and he just keep walking, I actually laughed out loud. What a dummy.
Just learn how to face him instead of avoiding him. Instead of hiding in a room till he leaves or something, learn how to juke him and get by him. If you're Claire literally just shoot him with a single acid round. The hardest part about Mr. X isn't even him, it's the Lickers and zombies. Chances are you didn't take care of either of them before he shows up so they're gonna fuck you up. It's actually kind of brilliant.
Well, on Leon A I was messing around just watching the details and enjoying walking everywhere and backtracking so when he DID show up, I had a bunch of things pending on the "to-do list" that I had to...
Well. Do.
With him always nearby. I think it was like 2 hours of constant high tension.
AMAZING.
Something else that I don't like about Mr. X. He ruins the atmosphere of the game. Up until that point in the game you can really take in the sights and sounds of the game. As soon as he does show up all of that gets thrown out the window and you're running around completing objective after objective so you don't have to deal with him again.
There's a hallway on the third floor with an open window. The wind is blowing through it there's rain coming through it. It sounds and looks amazing. But Mr. X shows up and things like that get lost in exchange for an updated version of pac man (I love the post in this thread that brings up that comparison).
There's a hallway on the third floor with an open window. The wind is blowing through it there's rain coming through it. It sounds and looks amazing. But Mr. X shows up and things like that get lost in exchange for an updated version of pac man (I love the post in this thread that brings up that comparison).
And oh boy the Memes were good haha
(Spoiler Alert I guess? Haven't played the game myself so I can't tell.)
"his presence made the game tiresome"
Y'all act like this is an openworld game where he chases you for 50 hours. Rather than the quick 10-20 minute chase it is lmao
Y'all act like this is an openworld game where he chases you for 50 hours. Rather than the quick 10-20 minute chase it is lmao
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Will do. I genuinely appreciate the advice I've been given.
His footsteps just get my adrenaline going.
After one flash grenade, we good lol
The recently released Mr.X beach body mod is hilarious too.
After one flash grenade, we good lol
The recently released Mr.X beach body mod is hilarious too.
Same he was pretty damn annoying didnt allow me to enjoy the scenery
He's great, if I were you I would skip RE3 remake whenever that comes out cause Nemesis will on your ass nonstop.
Starrrrssss.
Starrrrssss.
He's dropped in by umbrella to clean up witnesses. In the original game, you have a cutscene that shows an Umbrella Helicopter dropping one of 6 capsules onto the police station. Each one contains a Tyrant (Mr X). He's not the only X dropped in Racoon City, as other games in the series demonstrate. I think it was a bit jarring just having him appear in the Remake with no sort of explanation outside of a single note.
Midgame in Alien you get the flamethrower, and then you start spooking the Xenomorph away.
It becomes exactly like Mr. X : manageable, but a threat nonetheless.
And for the whole damn game. So It's no surprise how "meh" the game was received by the general public
