My Hero Academia |OT2| My Villain Academia

What is Dabi's true identity?

  • Tōya Todoroki, the eldest son of the Todoroki family, A.K.A. Punished Tōya

    Votes: 44 61.1%
  • Endeavor's bastard, or his child from a previous marriage

    Votes: 8 11.1%
  • Someone unrelated to the Todoroki family

    Votes: 8 11.1%
  • Tōya Todoroki's body possessed by a body-stealing quirk

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • Punished Shōto from another dimension

    Votes: 8 11.1%

  • Total voters
    72

Tace

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Nov 1, 2017
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I mean I feel like him having six additional quirks does make him more special compared to other people. It’s why I didn’t like it when it was initially revealed, it felt like he was getting a Shonen power up if you get what I mean. And his father being someone super important or him being the kid of AFO would make it worse.
I don't feel this way because it isn't his power. He says time and time again that he needs to make his power his so I don't feel he is the chosen one or super talented like other shonen shows.
I will say I can kinda see both sides. Depends on how it is executed. If he is indeed AfO’s son but chooses to be a hero instead, I wouldn’t call him a chosen one per se, but someone who proved himself a hero with or without powers and despite his lineage.

Cause if it is true, AfO did some messed up stuff to his own son just for a chance to get to All Might
 

NSESN

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Oct 25, 2017
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He kinda does feel like the chosen one in a way since only he is able to use the other quirks of the previous OFA users. And him having six quirks which mind you are beefed up versions of the previous users quirks puts him at a far greater advantage than any other one of his classmates. It’s why I view it as a Shonen power up and am still not a huge fan of it. Just hope Horikoshi doesn’t go buck wild with it in the future.
His predecessor was all might the guy that mastered OFA. The quirk reaching a new stage after All Might makes perfect sense and has nothing to do with Deku being special
If anything All Might is the special one here
 
Dec 28, 2018
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His predecessor was all might the guy that mastered OFA. The quirk reaching a new stage after All Might makes perfect sense and has nothing to do with Deku being special
I dunno feels mighty convenient that Deku is able to tap into this power while the other users couldn’t.
I will say I can kinda see both sides. Depends on how it is executed. If he is indeed AfO’s son but chooses to be a hero instead, I wouldn’t call him a chosen one per se, but someone who proved himself a hero with or without powers and despite his lineage.

Cause if it is true, AfO did some messed up stuff to his own son just for a chance to get to All Might
While I don’t think I’ll ever be a huge fan of the development I’ll be better able to except it if he handles it well. If not than oh boy.
 
Dec 28, 2018
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It actually makes Deku having six quirks feel less like an ass pull to me if AfO is the baby daddy lol
It would bug me if he was his kid but I guess I’d be better able to except it if that were the case. Though in the end for me it’s a lose lose situation cause no matter what I’ll be annoyed with the outcome lol. And all this talk about Deku’s father has made me really wanna know who his actual father is.
 

Tace

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Nov 1, 2017
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It would bug me if he was his kid but I guess I’d be better able to except it if that were the case. Though in the end for me it’s a lose lose situation cause no matter what I’ll be annoyed with the outcome lol. And all this talk about Deku’s father has made me really wanna know who his actual father is.
Seriously! Talk about going out for a pack of smokes
 
Dec 28, 2018
902
Seriously! Talk about going out for a pack of smokes
Last time I think he was ever mentioned it was said he was working overseas, though I could be wrong it’s been a while. My hope is that the father whenever he shows up is just some regular old joe and not an important hero. If the father turned out to be some big shot I’d be annoyed that Deku of all people didn’t ever mention him.
 

caliph95

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Oct 25, 2017
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Horikoshi hasn't really focused on the problems of modern hero society but he has touched on it, people in the MHA world can get arrested for using their quirks even in self defense, I'm hoping Horikoshi explores more of that aspect of the story in this arc
Nah self defense is fine, it's just in the story the kids would go out of their way to find the villains to beat up which is not self defense and straight up illegal especially without supervision
 

Gaming_Groove

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Apr 4, 2018
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So I guess since I'm probably one of the people that posts about the AfO=Deku's father stuff the most I'll write a little bit about where I feel that theory works and also a bit about where it's lacking. All we know about Deku's father (that I can recall, anyway) is that he breathes fire and he works abroad. Apparently his name is Hisashi Midoriya, which can have some interesting wordplay. The possibilities are pretty broad as to what Horikoshi intends for him. He could just fall under the absent father trope, he could be a critical reveal, or he could fall anywhere between those extremes. Apparently, Horikoshi has said he intends to introduce him into the story at a later point, so hopefully there will at least be some answers.

As for the AfO stuff, well there are a lot of things to unpack there. We can talk about plot stuff like the doctor or Izuku's unique interactions with One for All, but I think a lot of that gets enough discussion. I think where the theory works best and is most interesting is from a thematic perspective. The meaning of origins and the degree to which one can control their own destiny are big themes. They're explored in many characters, such as Shoto, Gentle, Kirishima, All Might, and of course our successors, Deku and Shigaraki. Tomura is a victim of his origin. We don't know all the details, but we do know that he's descended from a hero, but manipulated and brought up by a truly evil villain. The mirror of this would be someone who is descended from a villain, but nurtured by a truly good hero. The criticism I've received about this idea is that it's too neat, and that's fair. I'm not a writer or a critic and I'm frequently wrong, but personally I think the setup allows for some interesting developments.

Anyway, it's really late where I am, and I'm sick again for the second time in two months, so I'm going to sleep. If I think of more I'll come back and post it tomorrow. None of this is particularly new stuff and I'm sure I'm a broken record to a lot of you, so I don't expect a lot of comments about it. I may just be insane from medication+lack of sleep.

Night y'all.
 

Takyon

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Nov 8, 2017
2,033
So I guess since I'm probably one of the people that posts about the AfO=Deku's father stuff the most I'll write a little bit about where I feel that theory works and also a bit about where it's lacking. All we know about Deku's father (that I can recall, anyway) is that he breathes fire and he works abroad. Apparently his name is Hisashi Midoriya, which can have some interesting wordplay. The possibilities are pretty broad as to what Horikoshi intends for him. He could just fall under the absent father trope, he could be a critical reveal, or he could fall anywhere between those extremes. Apparently, Horikoshi has said he intends to introduce him into the story at a later point, so hopefully there will at least be some answers.

As for the AfO stuff, well there are a lot of things to unpack there. We can talk about plot stuff like the doctor or Izuku's unique interactions with One for All, but I think a lot of that gets enough discussion. I think where the theory works best and is most interesting is from a thematic perspective. The meaning of origins and the degree to which one can control their own destiny are big themes. They're explored in many characters, such as Shoto, Gentle, Kirishima, All Might, and of course our successors, Deku and Shigaraki. Tomura is a victim of his origin. We don't know all the details, but we do know that he's descended from a hero, but manipulated and brought up by a truly evil villain. The mirror of this would be someone who is descended from a villain, but nurtured by a truly good hero. The criticism I've received about this idea is that it's too neat, and that's fair. I'm not a writer or a critic and I'm frequently wrong, but personally I think the setup allows for some interesting developments.

Anyway, it's really late where I am, and I'm sick again for the second time in two months, so I'm going to sleep. If I think of more I'll come back and post it tomorrow. None of this is particularly new stuff and I'm sure I'm a broken record to a lot of you, so I don't expect a lot of comments about it. I may just be insane from medication+lack of sleep.

Night y'all.
Then there's the little things like AfO echoing the "dreams have become reality" line from the beginning of the series.
 

alexi52

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Oct 28, 2017
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From the way I see it Deku being AFO son would more likely be an improvement on his character, Deku stopped being an underdog when he got OFA, Deku doesn't really work well as the every man character since characters like Kirishima and lida feel more like the average Joe's of the series because they're what's normal in this world, not Deku


Deku's whole character mainly revolves around being All Might's successor, it would be smart for Horikoshi to focus more on that aspect and add some drama into it, and it would go with what All Might said about good being born from evil
 

BigWinnie1

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Feb 19, 2018
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From the way I see it Deku being AFO son would more likely be an improvement on his character, Deku stopped being an underdog when he got OFA, Deku doesn't really work well as the every man character since characters like Kirishima and lida feel more like the average Joe's of the series because they're what's normal in this world, not Deku


Deku's whole character mainly revolves around being All Might's successor, it would be smart for Horikoshi to focus more on that aspect and add some drama into it, and it would go with what All Might said about good being born from evil
I think the next big shoe to drop for Deku is All Mights Death. That will be the true turning point. All Might can't fight anymore but he still can lean on him now . Once he is gone for good he is going to have to lean more on himself and other students.
 

alexi52

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Oct 28, 2017
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I think the next big shoe to drop for Deku is All Mights Death. That will be the true turning point. All Might can't fight anymore but he still can lean on him now . Once he is gone for good he is going to have to lean more on himself and other students.
All Might death is coming but I don't think it's next, All Might overheard Deku offering Mirio OFA, I think that has to be addressed first
 

NSESN

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Oct 25, 2017
10,535
MHA always was a legacy story and not an underdog story. All Might's legacy is plot mover for most of the heroes and villains
 

Tace

Avenger
Nov 1, 2017
3,029
So I guess since I'm probably one of the people that posts about the AfO=Deku's father stuff the most I'll write a little bit about where I feel that theory works and also a bit about where it's lacking. All we know about Deku's father (that I can recall, anyway) is that he breathes fire and he works abroad. Apparently his name is Hisashi Midoriya, which can have some interesting wordplay. The possibilities are pretty broad as to what Horikoshi intends for him. He could just fall under the absent father trope, he could be a critical reveal, or he could fall anywhere between those extremes. Apparently, Horikoshi has said he intends to introduce him into the story at a later point, so hopefully there will at least be some answers.

As for the AfO stuff, well there are a lot of things to unpack there. We can talk about plot stuff like the doctor or Izuku's unique interactions with One for All, but I think a lot of that gets enough discussion. I think where the theory works best and is most interesting is from a thematic perspective. The meaning of origins and the degree to which one can control their own destiny are big themes. They're explored in many characters, such as Shoto, Gentle, Kirishima, All Might, and of course our successors, Deku and Shigaraki. Tomura is a victim of his origin. We don't know all the details, but we do know that he's descended from a hero, but manipulated and brought up by a truly evil villain. The mirror of this would be someone who is descended from a villain, but nurtured by a truly good hero. The criticism I've received about this idea is that it's too neat, and that's fair. I'm not a writer or a critic and I'm frequently wrong, but personally I think the setup allows for some interesting developments.

Anyway, it's really late where I am, and I'm sick again for the second time in two months, so I'm going to sleep. If I think of more I'll come back and post it tomorrow. None of this is particularly new stuff and I'm sure I'm a broken record to a lot of you, so I don't expect a lot of comments about it. I may just be insane from medication+lack of sleep.

Night y'all.
For what it’s worth, I really like the theory. Interesting themes to explore and the parallels to Shiggy would really strengthen that rivalry
 

Takyon

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Nov 8, 2017
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All Might death is coming but I don't think it's next, All Might overheard Deku offering Mirio OFA, I think that has to be addressed first
Yeah, that is one piece of unfinished business.
I'm pretty sure it'll pay off in some way after Bakugo's eavesdropping came up again in the kindergarten arc.
 

Yams

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Oct 25, 2017
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All Might death is coming but I don't think it's next, All Might overheard Deku offering Mirio OFA, I think that has to be addressed first
I think he deals with that then it happens shortly after that.

I think it happens in front of Deku and Bakugo. I’ve had this feeling the reason we have so many pages of them three together is because All Might is going to die protecting both of them
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I cant be the only one who doesnt go or even look at reddit, and for that matter, whats the purpose of saying theres more active people on reddit heroaca than reddit one piece on resetera. Perhaps I could see if you said resetera One Piece OT had more/less than HeroAca OT, but to bring up reddit user statistics here? Its like me posting theres more posts on MAL for heroAca than One Piece. Whats the point?
 

alexi52

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Oct 28, 2017
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I cant be the only one who doesnt go or even look at reddit, and for that matter, whats the purpose of saying theres more active people on reddit heroaca than reddit one piece on resetera. Perhaps I could see if you said resetera One Piece OT had more/less than HeroAca OT, but to bring up reddit user statistics here? Its like me posting theres more posts on MAL for heroAca than One Piece. Whats the point?
News on MHA popularity on a MHA thread
 

Takyon

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Nov 8, 2017
2,033
In year two or three it may be possible for Shoji to intern with Suneater.
I think Shoji could learn a lot from Tamaki because Tamaki's quirk is also one of extreme body modification/manipulation.
 

Taylo207

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Jan 10, 2018
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Bakugo and Todoroki finished their battle. On the other side, Quirk Liberation army caught Giran. Next chapter probably will have flashbacks regarding LoV, their meeting with Giganto a month ago​

Someone on reddit then post this:

The first two parts are right.

Last parts are: One month ago, Gigantomachia and a small villain group teamed up together and killed people.
 

alexi52

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Oct 28, 2017
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Other parts of the spoiler I've found
No.219 ゴー!スライディン・ゴー! 15P 10P使ってひったくりを制圧したところにヒーロー、スライディン・ゴーが到着し、爆豪・轟を学生と思えない!未来のトップヒーローだ!と褒める 一方解放軍、敵連合のブローカー・義爛を拘束。しかし口を割らずに長い付き合いになりそうと社長 ところ変わって一ヶ月半前、連合メンバーを泣いて襲うギガントマキア…敵連合は自壊の危機!? 近くのセブンのスルメを4,5個一度に買うのが最近の贅沢です<雄心>


No. 219 Go! Sliding Go!
After Bakugo and Todoroki restrain the purse snatcher, Pro Hero Sliding Go arrived and praises them, “I can’t believe you’re students! You’ll be future top heroes!”

Meanwhile, the Liberation Army captures the League of Villains broker Giran. But he won’t tell them anything and the CEO comments he thinks this will take awhile.

We flashback to a month and a half earlier, and see Gigantimakia crying and attacking the league members... is the league of villain in danger of destroying itself!?

 

Takyon

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Nov 8, 2017
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one month before the new Hero Rankings? That can't be too long since the highway attack.
 

alexi52

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Oct 28, 2017
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it's been a long time story wise since we've seen the League so I hope this flashback is lengthy, I wouldn't mind if it's the size of a mini arc
 

Poodlestrike

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm kind of expecting the Gigantomachia thing to be the League training or something. I doubt they'd fall into infighting in a flashback like that.

I also still cannot get over how cool a name Gigantomachia is.
 

Auron.90

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Dec 3, 2017
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Other parts of the spoiler I've found
No.219 ゴー!スライディン・ゴー! 15P 10P使ってひったくりを制圧したところにヒーロー、スライディン・ゴーが到着し、爆豪・轟を学生と思えない!未来のトップヒーローだ!と褒める 一方解放軍、敵連合のブローカー・義爛を拘束。しかし口を割らずに長い付き合いになりそうと社長 ところ変わって一ヶ月半前、連合メンバーを泣いて襲うギガントマキア…敵連合は自壊の危機!? 近くのセブンのスルメを4,5個一度に買うのが最近の贅沢です<雄心>


No. 219 Go! Sliding Go!
After Bakugo and Todoroki restrain the purse snatcher, Pro Hero Sliding Go arrived and praises them, “I can’t believe you’re students! You’ll be future top heroes!”

Meanwhile, the Liberation Army captures the League of Villains broker Giran. But he won’t tell them anything and the CEO comments he thinks this will take awhile.

We flashback to a month and a half earlier, and see Gigantimakia crying and attacking the league members... is the league of villain in danger of destroying itself!?

Sliding... Sliding... Could it be... The Cruller? :O
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Can someone tell me if the BakuTodo fight shown in the final page last chapter, isnt just like one page thing in the upcoming chapter. I just want them to have a fully dedicated chapter to fighting.

Thanks.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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are you physically incapable of not referring to two male characters by a ship name?
?????


best kaminari and kirishima







Support for Kaminari feeling down about never succeeding over them was wonderful. VEry fantastic.

Also the BakuTodo final page was the best. Hope we drag out their battle for several chapters instead of making it a short thing. Need my dream team to happen for reals. Also I wish the provisional license exam was drawn extensievely, didnt need to be just two panels, really.

Arc will be pretty fantastic if we get the downfall of the LoV and Shigs needing Midoriyas help leading them to have to work together to bring down Destro and foster a AFO/OFA-mentee partnership/relationship. Would extensively subvert expectations.
 
Dec 28, 2018
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Like the weak willed person I am I caved in and read the spoilers. Seems pretty juicy from the looks of it I mean the five last pages do atleast. Dunno if I would have spent 10 pages on Bakugo and Todoroki fight against a bunch of fodder but I guess it has been a while since they’ve fought some villains, hope the main leader of the fodder squad isn’t super foddery. And who is Giran again? Like I I’m trying to recall all the members of the LOV and I can’t seem to remember him at all.
 

alexi52

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Oct 28, 2017
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Like the weak willed person I am I caved in and read the spoilers. Seems pretty juicy from the looks of it I mean the five last pages do atleast. Dunno if I would have spent 10 pages on Bakugo and Todoroki fight against a bunch of fodder but I guess it has been a while since they’ve fought some villains, hope the main leader of the fodder squad isn’t super foddery. And who is Giran again? Like I I’m trying to recall all the members of the LOV and I can’t seem to remember him at all.
Giran is the broker guy who introduced Dabi and Toga to Shigaraki