Kizuki wasn't really a perfect counter and fire has the advantage over ice
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My Hero Academia |OT2| No More Heroes
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There is nothing implied that we will never get such explanation in the future
Who is this hiro?
but yeah nice touch by horikoshi
I think he means in the actual chapter where she displayed the ability to copy quirks, not after the fact
I know. I'm saying it needed that explanation in the chapter that it happened.
Yeah, overhaul would be dead if could have always decay multiple people at once
Part of me wonders if we're supposed to look at these powerups for the league as a sort of videogame level up.
They did just spend a month basically fighting/leveling against a high level opponent.
It'll be interesting if Dabi powers up at all.
They did just spend a month basically fighting/leveling against a high level opponent.
It'll be interesting if Dabi powers up at all.
Having said that, let me also say:
So I was never big on the notion that AFO gave Shigaraki his quirk or killed his family.and implanted false memories, but I did believe he did something fucky to him.
This chapter gives me the what. AfO Scott Summers'd him. Based on the way Shigaraki's quirk now seems to work that means the quirk can't possibly be all or nothing. And if it can scale up, it can likely scale down.
If that's the case it's likely he should be able to straight up turn it off. But he can't. My hypothesis is that Shigaraki could turn his quirk off as kid and AfO did something to temporarily disable his control. The trauma after killing his family did the rest.
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Also, the apparent exchange with his dad serves as possible evidence as well
Picture this, Shigaraki saying he wants to be a hero, his dad telling him he can't be a hero with his quirk, his sister cheering him up by telling him their grandmother was a hero. Runs into a strange man on the street one day who says some nice things and sends him off with a pat on the head. And that evening that same quirk his father had said he couldn't be a hero with kills his whole family.
So I was never big on the notion that AFO gave Shigaraki his quirk or killed his family.and implanted false memories, but I did believe he did something fucky to him.
This chapter gives me the what. AfO Scott Summers'd him. Based on the way Shigaraki's quirk now seems to work that means the quirk can't possibly be all or nothing. And if it can scale up, it can likely scale down.
If that's the case it's likely he should be able to straight up turn it off. But he can't. My hypothesis is that Shigaraki could turn his quirk off as kid and AfO did something to temporarily disable his control. The trauma after killing his family did the rest.
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Also, the apparent exchange with his dad serves as possible evidence as well
Picture this, Shigaraki saying he wants to be a hero, his dad telling him he can't be a hero with his quirk, his sister cheering him up by telling him their grandmother was a hero. Runs into a strange man on the street one day who says some nice things and sends him off with a pat on the head. And that evening that same quirk his father had said he couldn't be a hero with kills his whole family.
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I agree, Spinner being in shock over it happening supports this
That would have been straight up broken if he could do that
Shigaraki The Mad Villain
Oh that makes sense
I was thinking how Shigaraki is even standing when he wouldn't have a decent sleep in weeks considering he can only get 3 hours of sleep tops maybe a bit more with clones
That was a meh chapter. I knew the chances of Kizuki living were slim but I still can't help but be disappointed. Just annoyed that she was wasted on Toga but oh well. The Shigaraki stuff was whatever I didn't care much for it one way or another.
Dabi having the next big fight doesn't interest me in the slightest, always found him to be the most boring LOV member. And my theory about the hooded figure being a sort of secret weapon for the liberation army is all but dead now. And if the Toga fight is anything to go by the hooded figure will probably be over and done with in two chapters, I now only really have hope for Destro being worth a shit as a threat. Anyway maybe the hooded figure will be connected to Dabi somehow or maybe they'll be some random person, who knows but either way I'll probably be disappointed with the outcome. At this point I'm only really looking forward to Spinner and Twice's main fights, if they even get one that is.
Dabi having the next big fight doesn't interest me in the slightest, always found him to be the most boring LOV member. And my theory about the hooded figure being a sort of secret weapon for the liberation army is all but dead now. And if the Toga fight is anything to go by the hooded figure will probably be over and done with in two chapters, I now only really have hope for Destro being worth a shit as a threat. Anyway maybe the hooded figure will be connected to Dabi somehow or maybe they'll be some random person, who knows but either way I'll probably be disappointed with the outcome. At this point I'm only really looking forward to Spinner and Twice's main fights, if they even get one that is.
I had pretty much accepted it the other week when she went SPLAT on the pavement, but it is a huge bummer Kizuki is gone. Next to Destro, she had my favorite design of the villains this arc.
I'm excited for the Dabi fight, I'm hoping we'll get a flashback to help solidify the theories(even though it's pretty obvious at this point)
Not sure how you can say she was wasted if she was never worth a damn to begin with
I was interested in her because of finally having another main female villain in the story. I would have liked if she somehow survived so she could be fleshed out more later on but that isn't happening anymore. I hope that the others won't be killed off after their respective fights but I pretty much expect at this point that they'll all be a one and done deal.
A potential flashback is the only thing I can say I have any interest in this upcoming fight for Dabi.
Because he could have done much more with her instead of just having her be simple fodder for Toga's development mate.
Given her influential status outside of a villain and how that could've been utlized within the arc or elsewhere, she was definitely wasted. If she was just a big shot bodyguard or something, and nothing more, it wouldn't sting as much to see her go down so quickly. Instead her position is solely used to partly justify her rather one-note gag/quirk of apparently being super into interviewing people.
Funnily, her influence was the most obvious until now, since she's the one responsible for the Destro reprints.
Understandable, this being a long-running Shonen I'm sure we'll get more female Villains later on, sadly for Kizuki she ended up being a one-off but in terms of one off villains goes, I wouldn't say it was a bad she gave a lot of damage to her opponent and pushed her to the brink of death. As for the rest of the liberation army I'm now 100% sure that Destro at least won't be taken out this arc since he's not using the full extent of his army, he is not using the corrupt Heroes that he has against the league since he wants to make it seem that it's the civilians that are saving the day by using their quirks, we can have an arc with Destro using the liberation army's undercover Heroes and we could also have some Heroes we know turn out to be traitors, and ask for the MLA's top members in this arc I can see two or three of them surviving because this after they pointed out that Kizuki was dumb for being in the front line in the first place
For me she never did anything to earn my interests besides her status so her death didn't really bother me that much, I don't put that much weight in the ranks amongst members of villain groups after what happened with overhauls men
His clones lost twice and got knocked out by gran
But you're right considering he hasn't been in any real fights even spinner and twice have something that would call a real right
New Vigilante chapter is out on Viz
I hope this is the case, I also hope the hooded ice user ends up being Fuyumi
I'll admit that if Kizuki was a guy I wouldn't be complaining nearly as much. I hope that he does introduce more female villains in the future and handles them better but I can't say I have much confidence in Horikoshi, but as I always say I'd love to be proved wrong. And I'm leaning towards Destro and the others being a one and done deal mostly because of how Horikoshi treated past non LOV villains such as Overhaul's gang. And with Kizuki being dead this chapter it doesn't help very much in making me think otherwise.
Lol I can kinda understand it, Shonen is so inconsistent. Remember when Hiyori got chopped in half in Bleach and survived? Good times
For better or worse, Toga is pretty much the primary female villain of the series. I'm also expecting all of Destro's group to die, but I would love to be mistaken.
I think he's gonna win. I don't think his mystique is really gonna crack around anyone but another Todoroki, and even then probably only when he chooses to.
Giganto seems more like the big boss of this arc, beating him is the primary goal of this arc, he's the strongest, and there's literally a timer counting down to his arrival, if the league get Giran and defeat Giganto before facing Destro then they have no reason to stay and fight, they'll just teleport out of there
The difference between liberation army and the Yakuza is that Horikoshi isn't using the liberation armies full force so I don't think he'll be done with them this arc, also the top members don't equal the strongest members, they just have a high status, Destro most likely has some strong pro heroes on his side
The difference between liberation army and the Yakuza is that Horikoshi isn't using the liberation armies full force so I don't think he'll be done with them this arc, also the top members don't equal the strongest members, they just have a high status, Destro most likely has some strong pro heroes on his side
You aren't wrong about that but I'd say for me at least it's for worse than better, it's part of the reason why I wanted other prominent female villains in the series. I'd like the liberation army to continue on after this arc is over but as more time passes on I grow more doubtful.
This arc focusing on the villains is a step in the right direction. Let's hope he can start to develop other villains properly as he builds the LoV too
Of Dabi being Endeavor's kid? Maybe before the pro hero arc, but now? Seems almost certain
But the thing is, if it's a red herring, what's it there to distract us from? There's no reason to speculate about Dabi's identity except for the Todoroki connection.
Well first he'll have to stop making the non LOV villains a one and done deal and have them be recurring.
Having a member of the Liberation army join the League would be interesting to see at the end. The issue with the other villains in this series is you either stand with the League or get blown out since the League wants to be the king of the underworld. I totally don't see the Liberation Army as an organization continuing after this. I think Hori should have had All for One groom two children so Shigaraki could have a rival on the villain side, like how Deku has Bakugou on the hero side.
You're being distracted from Dabi having a different kind of connection to the Todoroki's by the existence of Touya.is my contention.
Because it wasn't shown, simple
Ok I will bite
The 8 precepts were introduced exactly to slow down the heroes and 2 of them managed to do a lot damage on them(Rappa and Nemoto), you are being cynical because you want too, you doesn't need to force similarities.
I think this is a criticism that should be made after the arc is finished and not when it is being developed
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Interesting insight. This makes me think of something that I hadn't considered before.
Surely Shiggy can't be the only child AfO has groomed as a possible successor. I do wonder if there are/was others, and what became of them
I'm still miffed at the blue balls surrounding Dabi's identity from the pro hero arc
I honestly have no idea who that is lol, my memory of Bleach is horrid these days
And yes, I get it, shounen. But look at the context, including this being an arc where the LoV, the protagonists, have established a clear body count. Add that with the sheer unambiguously graphic way she went out... yea, the result seemed hella clear to me lol
At the very least, I hope we can agree that it was weird to see people think that not only was she alive, but she'd still have a role to play this arc with those injuries.
I honestly have no idea who that is lol, my memory of Bleach is horrid these days
And yes, I get it, shounen. But look at the context, including this being an arc where the LoV, the protagonists, have established a clear body count. Add that with the sheer unambiguously graphic way she went out... yea, the result seemed hella clear to me lol
At the very least, I hope we can agree that it was weird to see people think that not only was she alive, but she'd still have a role to play this arc with those injuries.
Another thing I would like to point out is that Stain isn't exactly an one and done and character. He was defeated in the same arc he was introduced but he impacted many arcs after that including this one
Dabi is a very secretive person about his powers and past, I believe we never even had an explanation for how his quirk works so far.
I don't think it will be a true power up and more like a power we didn't see so far
Dabi is a very secretive person about his powers and past, I believe we never even had an explanation for how his quirk works so far.
Oh no, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Just saying I can understand thinking she might have survived. Death fake outs happen a lot(looking at you Hobgoblin) though obviously Hori hasn't done that yet thankfully.
Lmao at you forgetting Hiyori. I wish I could strike it from my memory too, friend. She was the blonde in the Vizard/Vesored group. I would grab a pic but she's not that important lol
Lol, her and the blonde bowl cut guy are all I remember from that group
I remember the punch guy vizard because he seemed really hype until he jobbed off screen. It was extremely disappointing.
Talking about Bleach really puts MHA's problems into perspective lmao. We got it pretty good all things considered
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