I just reported 2 of them. Luckily is just rhose in a quick search and both had only one or 2 members.
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My Xbox One is Suggesting That I Become a Nazi!
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I just reported 2 of them. Luckily is just rhose in a quick search and both had only one or 2 members.
You could not employ and pay enough people to sit around 24/7 manually approving every single group that is made. The realistic approach is a blacklist of words, and basic image recognition to try and automatically stop some offensive imagery.
The rest is up to swift reporting and a team at customer service/network then handling the reports that get sent to them. That is just how it is, the best setup possible as things stand, so as much as this is both funny and offensive, it's not really MS' fault or MS doing something the wrong way. It will be dealt with once reported and life will go on.
The creator of the group may even receive an XBL ban of some sorts, but they'll no doubt try to plead it's just a joke. Some 15 year old boy in charge of the Nationalist Socialist Women's group.
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This thread should show MS that they should be spending some of my $60 a year to manually review any club that appears as recommended. Assuming we let them off the hook for manually reviewing all of them.
What's the deal with this mealy-mouthed shit.
You know exactly what it is.
The swastika used for buddhist temples is a left-handed swastika. The Nazi one is a right-handed swastika, usually rotated 45 degrees.
It's pretty clear the community's swastika is used for neo-fascist means.
Yeah, for real, lmao. I was honestly expecting like a clickbait article or something, but no, his Xbox is quite literally trying to get him to join a Nazi group. Gotta say, I was pretty surprised.
I didn't say "need" anywhere. It was just a suggestion since he's both been responsive on social media and also puts MS on blast.
This mundane shit is exactly how Nazism becomes socially acceptable.
Pretty despicable stuff. Glad I don't own an XB1 anymore because that would be enough for me to throw it in the fucking garbage.
There's a reason my family is so small. Fuck Nazis. Fuck them all.
Is this a joke? Zoom in.
Pretty despicable stuff. Glad I don't own an XB1 anymore because that would be enough for me to throw it in the fucking garbage.
There's a reason my family is so small. Fuck Nazis. Fuck them all.
Is this a joke? Zoom in.
Don't even start with that shit. It's obvious what we're looking at, which is a suggestion to join a Nazi group.
Which has a fucking swastika in the image. GamerEra is either a bad troll or blind. This shit is infuriating.
How many groups can possibly be made every week? I don't see how introducing some delay where every few days/every week someone comes along and approves each new batch of groups would be too much extra workload for the moderators they already employ. Nobody has to sit around 24/7 waiting for each individual group to be made.
And the fact is, by having these social features both Xbox, Playstation and Steam have created their own social networks, so they should have the same social responsibility that any other social network should have. If they're not able to moderate these features properly they shouldn't exist to begin with.
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Oh fuck off.
If your going to allow the creation of social features like clubs on your platform, an automated moderation system is a joke.
Human language is fluid, it constantly evolves from day to day making a blacklist of specific words and phrases useless when there will always be another word to be used in place of whatever is blacklisted.
Leaving it all up to a report system is also a failure, as any club creator can just hide their club from public searching and proceed to invite whoever they wish. No, they wont show up as obvious as they do here, but they still exist in way that the platform owner has a responsibility to not allow, and in a way where they can get people to their club.
And the current set up is not the best possible solution either. Limiting creation of clubs to gold members would be a solid first step, instantly making the amount of possible clubs a measurable number.
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But they are, that is why the report functionality exists. As much as I'm on board to accept this is offensive and unacceptable on XBL, I'm not quite signed up to anyone in here acting like their day is ruined and they can't turn on their Xbox again without fearing the dashboard. Like with a lot of content creation on networks, things will slip through automatic detection, or simply need to be reported. That's why decent reporting tools are required. All of this content, whether it be groups, usernames, messages or more can be traced back to account creators, and as it says in the T&C for these services your account can be terminated or suspended as a disciplinary action. MS will already be inundated with constant reports of rude messages on XBL and soundclips of recordings from screaming teenagers playing Halo. You'll find the teams that moderate the online network handle a whole host of reports.
If MS do not do anything about this being reported, then you can be more on their case. For now it's just one example of something that may slip through a word blacklist, as it doesn't expclicitly state "Nazi", and image detection, as the swastika, while incredibly recognisable despite some trolling this topic saying "it's not a swastika", is a shape, so, AI shape detection always has to air on the side of caution. It's not quite the same as nudity filters which have a much higher hit ratio of not producing false positives. This is why games like LBP even panic about allowing users to upload their own images, as it's a nightmare to try and moderate. As I said automatic nudity detection is usually much more effecient than trying to automatically shoot down shapes.
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What the hell? Calm down bro. I don't really understand what I'm supposedly "starting" in your mind bht whatever it is you're wrong. I didn't see the swatiska in the middle of the cross. I had to take a second look since people were freaking out over my comment.
I will not. What you need to do is calm down.
BTW, the color in your text is borderline unreadable.
Super duper mega gotta agree with you here. Platform holders should try a bit harder when it comes to moderation of these things, especially considering that this group was suggested after playing a kids game. Yeesh.
Seems like the icon is gone for now, though then again it might not be. The Xbox app isn't always reliable, and I reported the club (and a few others I found) anyway.
Microsoft is usually quick to act on crap like this, so hopefully the club will be pulled ASAP.
Microsoft is usually quick to act on crap like this, so hopefully the club will be pulled ASAP.
It... totally is though? I dunno, it's hard to blame people for having that reaction to your post when the overwhelming majority of people were able to see the symbol just fine in the OT.
No, what you need to do is look a bit harder before posting something that disagrees with what everyone in the thread is saying.
Not being able to see it doesn't stop you from reading before you post.
It will get dealt with. There is no need to limit the functionality of a social console out of fear, especially not gating even more behind paywalls considering everything on consoles currently gated off. Adults need to understand and accept there is always going to be a small percentage of offensive shit that manages to slip through automatic detection systems, that will then be punished retroactively when reported.
It's not as if Major Nelson will be dancing in his office right now going, fuck yeah, free speech bro!