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Mystery Science Theater 3000 |OT| We like it very much!
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Kinda doubt Shout really spent a whole lot to get MST in the first place really. And if anything maybe they haven't been exactly thrilled with how it performed? Think it's clear while the Kickstarter helped get a big awesome season 11, it didn't blow the roof off of Netflix and after everything they went through to get this show going, I imagine Joel is having to struggle to get anything else going now with the show. Netflix is obviously not tossing money at the show when they are having to raise money to pay for the production of only 6 episodes.
Course now I think we see why there has been a heavier push on MST3K merch since S11 ended, whole bunch of new items started to pop up online, mugs, shirts, there is a new calendar announced now, and they just got their licensed comic book going now too. Seems like they are trying to get funds wherever they can.
Wonder if the LIVE show tour is also something being done to help maybe fund more MST since it was very successful the first time around. I mean I can see them doing it as a live show ongoing for a while too but maybe there is some ulterior motive to it also to help raise funding.
Course now I think we see why there has been a heavier push on MST3K merch since S11 ended, whole bunch of new items started to pop up online, mugs, shirts, there is a new calendar announced now, and they just got their licensed comic book going now too. Seems like they are trying to get funds wherever they can.
Wonder if the LIVE show tour is also something being done to help maybe fund more MST since it was very successful the first time around. I mean I can see them doing it as a live show ongoing for a while too but maybe there is some ulterior motive to it also to help raise funding.
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I'm at Dragon Con and got to see a preview of the comic last night. It's hilarious. They took old, public domain comics and inserted themselves into it. Definitely look out for it! Dark Horse is publishing it and I think it's out September 12th.
Side note: Jonah and Joel are two of the nicest dudes ever. They make me super proud to be a MST3K fan.
Edit: Totally missed the posts about the comic on the previous page, sorry about that!
Side note: Jonah and Joel are two of the nicest dudes ever. They make me super proud to be a MST3K fan.
Edit: Totally missed the posts about the comic on the previous page, sorry about that!
I hope they do well this time around. I really do like the show, even if I trouble finding the time to watch the episodes in a Netflix friendly way.
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We all called it: November 22, American Thanksgiving.
We all called it: November 22, American Thanksgiving.
It'll probably go on as planned, or this is the turkey day marathon.
*fassbender_perfection.gif*
What a great way to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the best show to ever grace the airwaves.
They're having it early so you don't have to choose.
A mildly interesting new Rifftrax release: If you remember The Phantom Creeps shorts from early MST3k, apparently there was a project that stitched them together into a full-length film, and they're riffing that. Since MST3k never got to a conclusion on the originals, I'm awfully tempted to have a look to see what happened next!
I always hated that they never finished The Phantom Creeps. I wanted to know what happened.
How fortunate! Zees vill simplify everything!
Or, my favorite take on that, "He's got gum, how fortunate."
They don't want it to compete with the premier of the new season, a big reason also for only 6 episodes is that they want ppl to binge watch the whole thing quick. Bing watching is important for Netflix, the speed and completion rate of show watching is an important metric apparently for the company, apparently it helps retain viewership of a show as a show that is too long or doesn't retain viewers in a binge, can lose folks part way in. They've said it before but everything about this seems designed around getting folks to quickly consume the new season.
The faster the show is binged and completed is treated as fans really enjoying it, which they use as part of their metrics on supporting a show. S11 was long and with almost 2hr long episodes, was not very binge friendly. Also many who started the season never finished it or took a long time to get through it, which is not what Netflix wants.
Doing this instead of the usual marathon just shows they want the fans to blow through this in one or two sittings and pump up those numbers for Netflix. So the T-day marathon is being shown a week in advance, and likely going to be pimping the hell out of the new season.
Five of the six S12 episodes have been classified by the BBFC... in a way that gives away the titles.
So, spoiler warnings ahead as we enter the nightmare-fuelled world of spoilers!
(An aside: It also appears that this season has a subtitle which I guess suggests something about the framing story)
Some chat (and the list) in spoiler tags:
So, spoiler warnings ahead as we enter the nightmare-fuelled world of spoilers!
(An aside: It also appears that this season has a subtitle which I guess suggests something about the framing story)
Some chat (and the list) in spoiler tags:
Experiment 1201: Mac and Me (1988)
Experiment 1202: Atlantic Rim (2013)
Experiment 1203: Lords of the Deep (1988)
Experiment 1204: The Day Time Ended (1980)
Experiment 1205: ???
Experiment 1206: Ator (1982)
They got Mac and Me! I guess that makes it the first MST3k film I've seen prior to it being an MST3k film.
Looks like they're embracing the mockbuster. I hope they don't go too far that way, but the occasional episode I'd be fine with.
Ator looks like a well they can keep coming back to. After all, you can never have too much Keefe. I wonder if they'll highlight that Cave Dwellers is its' sequel.
A little disappointed that everything other than the 2013 film is from the 80s. Hoping that we get a different decade in the missing movie, but it's a good span of films otherwise.
Experiment 1202: Atlantic Rim (2013)
Experiment 1203: Lords of the Deep (1988)
Experiment 1204: The Day Time Ended (1980)
Experiment 1205: ???
Experiment 1206: Ator (1982)
They got Mac and Me! I guess that makes it the first MST3k film I've seen prior to it being an MST3k film.
Looks like they're embracing the mockbuster. I hope they don't go too far that way, but the occasional episode I'd be fine with.
Ator looks like a well they can keep coming back to. After all, you can never have too much Keefe. I wonder if they'll highlight that Cave Dwellers is its' sequel.
A little disappointed that everything other than the 2013 film is from the 80s. Hoping that we get a different decade in the missing movie, but it's a good span of films otherwise.
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Saw both nights of the live show in Boston last week. I'm really hoping that unnamed episode is The Brain, because good lord did that make for an incredible target for riffing.
But
good god. I can't wait. Also, I've never heard of
, but I suspect I might have a good idea what it is.
Edit: I spoiler tagged the movie names because everyone else did. But I find it really weird to consider that a spoiler... Do you close your eyes when starting the episodes on Netflix or are people just being extra careful?
But
Mac and Me...
Atlantic Rim
Edit: I spoiler tagged the movie names because everyone else did. But I find it really weird to consider that a spoiler... Do you close your eyes when starting the episodes on Netflix or are people just being extra careful?
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Kind of disappointed about Atlantic Rim. The Asylum isn't trying to make real movies anymore, so it seems pointless to riff on them.
However, Mac and Me--holy shit.
However, Mac and Me--holy shit.
Mac and Me is a huge get. Also excited about Ator, now Cave Dwellers will make total sense I'm sure.
All I really wanted was Robot Jox. Sigh.
Still, sounds like an awesome lineup (mostly). All I'll say about the dominant decade in the list is if you're used to the 50's movies from the original series, don't do the math on the new series. It's like drinking from the wrong grail.
I'll just pretend Atlantic Rim is what they picked when they couldn't get it.
Rifftrax has
Ator. Anyone that's interested might want to get it, in case they lose it, since MST3k is doing it. They had Wizards of the Lost Kingdom II on their site for about two weeks and took it down. It might not have had anything to do with MST3k doing it last season, but it seems like quite a coincidence that Rifftrax removed it and then MST3k riffed it, too.
I wonder which version of Mac and Me they are going to show? I really hope it's the version where the handicapped kid gets shot in the back and dies before the credits just to see their reaction.
Looks like the BBFC have cleaned up their database.
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Given the BBFC rated it a PG, I'd be very surprised if it was that one.
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Although the original is a U...
Anyone see the live shows yet? Saw The Brain in Atlanta today and loved it. Got my very first giant foam hand as a souvenir.
Lots of good pop culture stuff but my favorite was when Joel started yelling something like "There's a spot right there (gestures to the open parking spot in frame)! Don't park next to the curb. You're making things difficult for others!" That's become a really big pet peeve of mine as I've gotten older haha.
Saw the recent live shows, saw last years as well. Great riffs on both shows, but do have to say, they really cut the budget on this year's show. The riffs are great, but the actual show part and skits are really low key this time, not as elaborate, and the 2nd show had almost very little to it's show segments, it felt really like a "you are back for more" scenarios and continuation of the first instead of a stand alone show. They do make the joke about lack of two characters and budget. And you got cast now involving Jonah's wife and Cynthia's boyfriend is playing Tom for the show this time around.
That's too bad. I saw the live show this year, but not last year, so I had nothing to compare it against. I thought it was hilarious (I saw Deathstalker II) but it does sound like they're having money issues.
I wish they would do more shorts, because those are some of my favorites, but I asked Joel about that when I saw him at Dragon Con and he said they're (MST3K) not going to do them. At least the Rifftrax guys are doing them. The (long) short Fun in Balloon Land is one of the most hilarious things they've done.
It's just a tiny little paragraph but I thought this would be fun to share with the 30th anniversary coming up, although this is actually from 29 years ago. As far as I can find out this is the very first national press exposure for MST3K.
It's from an article in the November 11-17, 1989 issue of TV guide that talks the about the upcoming Comedy Channel. Sorry about the quality, couldn't get my scanner working.
From that description I can only assume the reviewer is getting Joel and Dr. Forrester mixed up. I'm really curious what exactly and how much they watched for this little preview.
It's from an article in the November 11-17, 1989 issue of TV guide that talks the about the upcoming Comedy Channel. Sorry about the quality, couldn't get my scanner working.
From that description I can only assume the reviewer is getting Joel and Dr. Forrester mixed up. I'm really curious what exactly and how much they watched for this little preview.
I'm curious why you have a 30 year old TV Guide laying around.
Collectible.
Looks like they'll be running a pre-turkey day marathon on the 18th.
Yeah. When they announced season 12 for Turkey Day, they announced the marathon would be the weekend before, so you wouldn't have to choose.
lol! Yeah, that would've been a much better story.I was hoping it was more like this:
I'm not surprised. On his podcast, Suicide Buddies, Hampton Yount talked about the fact that he didn't go on the tour this time because of money reasons and how it was affecting him. Also said something about getting paid less (which makes sense as they are only doing six episodes). And S12 did the whole pledge drive, so I think they've gotten this far and are looking to keep costs down where they can and try to keep the show financially afloat.
I pledged because I have every episode of MST3K digitally and I want to keep that situation, but it is disheartening.
Sounds like last tour was a victory lap while this one is "oh the band needs money let's go on tour again" situation. I still think we'll get more seasons but it might not be with Netflix. I think Netflix changed the rules on them with their binging metric, which is why the six episode season over thanksgiving makes sense.
Unless they plan to keep doing what they are doing, producing smaller cheaper seasons that Netflix doesn't have to foot much of the bill for.
The LIVE show is clearly a cheaper production, and ironically they have even more merch than ever they are selling at the shows too, but are they using the live tour also to try and fund the show now too? They talked about doing more LIVE performances before, so is this a trend they are going for to help pay for the seasons and maybe make some side money with a live act?
Yes, it's been reported for a bit they did a shorter season to encourage binging.
Or maybe Netflix only gave them enough money for 6 episodes.
Almost assuredly this, though Joel has been talking in interviews about the fact that people who aren't hardcore MSTies only make it through so far in a season based on the Netflix data. So it might be a bit of reacting to the widest audience in that regard.
It's just a tiny little paragraph but I thought this would be fun to share with the 30th anniversary coming up, although this is actually from 29 years ago. As far as I can find out this is the very first national press exposure for MST3K.
It's from an article in the November 11-17, 1989 issue of TV guide that talks the about the upcoming Comedy Channel. Sorry about the quality, couldn't get my scanner working.
From that description I can only assume the reviewer is getting Joel and Dr. Forrester mixed up. I'm really curious what exactly and how much they watched for this little preview.
Wow, so from this I learned that Joel created another show (the Higgins brothers show), which had cameos from Joel and Jim Mallon and the Kids in the Hall, and that Steve Higgins is the current announcer on the Tonight Show.
That too, it's likely many factors.
Joel put it great in a recent interview that even if it's six episodes it's still more total minutes of content than a new season of Stranger Things.
