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Nancy Pelosi: A Glass of Water Could Take Districts like AOC’s or Mine
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This headline is salacious and trying to make it seem like a dig at AOC, but she's not taking a dig at AOC, and she's right:
It's also why you generally have more progressive Democrats in the House than Senate, or at least, a greater variety of ideological representation in the House than in the senate. And especially in senate leadership (though that also has to do with the historical trend/theme of major national senate Democrats often running for president).
It's also why you generally have more progressive Democrats in the House than Senate, or at least, a greater variety of ideological representation in the House than in the senate. And especially in senate leadership (though that also has to do with the historical trend/theme of major national senate Democrats often running for president).
Didn't she beat a member of the Dem Caucus who had basically the whole of the Democratic Party behind him?
Edit: Ah. I get what she's saying. Still don't like it.
Edit: Ah. I get what she's saying. Still don't like it.
AOC was going to be swimming uphill sooner than later. This is much sooner than I expected though.
This is great. So sassy, so smarmy. Show me the lie.
"Literally anyone with the right platform can win"
I appreciate her taking the platform away from celebrity worship and personality cult staging and putting it back on the actual execution.
AOC being popular because she has Twitter hot takes doesn't mean anything in the long run. I appreciate her sticking up for herself and giving detractors a taste of their own medicine, but the platform is why you vote for her in the end.
"Literally anyone with the right platform can win"
I appreciate her taking the platform away from celebrity worship and personality cult staging and putting it back on the actual execution.
AOC being popular because she has Twitter hot takes doesn't mean anything in the long run. I appreciate her sticking up for herself and giving detractors a taste of their own medicine, but the platform is why you vote for her in the end.
I mean, I'm not completely disagreeing, but at the same time it would downplay her own presence as well
Really should have chosen her words more wisely if she didn't want to open herself up to those attacks.
So you didn't read, huh.
She also says that about her own district.
She's talking about safe seats, not insulting anyone.
Glasses of water could win her and AOC's districts.
This is the part people should be taking issue with, not the glass of water comment. She's, once again, peddling the same ol' bulshit that Dems need to tread down the middle instead of going further progressive/left. Yes, because that's worked out so wonderfully these past few years.
Fuck off.
She is.
I can't get too mad about that when she admitted that her district is the same.
Her insistence that she is a progressive? That continues to be utter horseshit.
Her insistence that she is a progressive? That continues to be utter horseshit.
In the primary. She was talking about the actual election, not the primary, which is a pretty important contextual issue
I mean, this is literally the reason a lot of people were cool with running AOC in the first place. Literally anyone with a D by their name could win it, so why not the actual leftmost candidate?
lol, completely obvious conclusion. Same with blood red districts. We've literally had dead people elected before.
Rather than talking about safe seats it seems poignant to dismiss AOC as a run of the mill incumbent. Along with the previous messaging about the 'dissident left', I've got my timer on.
AOC shows more concern for middle America's problems than middle America politicians do, including Dems and Repubs on both sides of the aisle.
AOC herself and the energy she leveraged to take her seat from Crowley might be "super left", if you've lived in the center all your life, but her actual words and policy stances once in Congress are pretty much universal, and long overdue, something Pelosi doesn't realize or chooses to ignore.
AOC herself and the energy she leveraged to take her seat from Crowley might be "super left", if you've lived in the center all your life, but her actual words and policy stances once in Congress are pretty much universal, and long overdue, something Pelosi doesn't realize or chooses to ignore.
You tailor your messaging to your most marginal districts. We have a majority thanks to people sitting in seats D+5 to R+5. They're the ones most likely to lose, so leadership has to protect them and try to keep their voters in the fold.
You can tailor your message to districts like AOC's or even Pelosi's... but then you only have 180-190 seats on this map.
I like winning and like having a majority. I like being able to keep Republicans from hurting women, PoC, and LGBT people. But that's just me.
Get angry at her. That's why she's saying these things. They're not going to vote for Republicans. They'll vote for progressives. Because they're mad at "moderate darling 7th most progressive congressperson" who talks like she's a moderate while being more liberal than most of us. She's playing people because they get mad about it and vote for progressives more than they otherwise would.
Seems like a good argument that you can float as far left a candidate as you want in some districts' primaries and they'll get in. Hmm.
"but but but we are progressive....just in the middle. Far....far away from the left."
That's a shitty headline (and thread, really) meant to wind people up. The full quote and context is fine.
Because she lives in a little thing called reality, where it's going to take more than those types of seats to stop the Right from having a monopoly in certain parts of the country.
What a shit, click bait thread title. The OP should be embarrassed. Another poster I never need to pay any attention to ever again.
love how, with extraordinarily rare exceptions, calls for "party unity" are only ever invoked to silence criticism of the Democratic establishment from the left, and not the reverse. funny how that works
We just need even more compromise while getting kicked in the face.
People keep trotting this line around but never bring up what those messages actually are.
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A lot of the policies being put forth by politicians like AOC are very popular, but from Pelosi's perspective, those policies are too progressive to shoot for. I think Democrats would be fine being further left than it currently is.
Yep, she's pretty dissmisive of the left and wants them to come to the center.
"There is only 5 of them"
Sad part is she still has stans here.
Corrupt and attached to the status quo, like other establishment dems such as Schumer.
The title should be "ramblin pelosi shitting all over the future of the democratic party again." The title is clickbaity, hopefully the next time she opens her mouth, and shits out of it, the title can be appropriate so folks wont get bogged down arguing nonsense.
What is this message, can Pelosi-whisperers explain this to me?
And what are these concerns, specifically?