Mueller testifying is important but I don't think its necessary to begin impeachment proceedings. If anything it should happen after impeachment proceedings as part of the investigation itself. Waiting for Mueller to testify feels like a Pelosi stall tactic since she clearly doesn't want to put the 2020 general election in any sort of risk.
That is to far fetched to me. You can't link those two together imo. The Democrats have the House, that's it. They can do some things. But don't overestimate their power. These are two separate things imo.
Trump so white he's getting infinite retries at this being honest stuff.
They can do some things but instead they're doing nothing and mocking their own party members on top of it.
Yup.
We're setting a precedent for a future (or present) president that can ignore law. What is happening with the census question is TERRIFYING. They're about to ignore SCOTUS. Impeachment should begin, discovery should dig up everything it can, and it should be a very public spectacle to get the media willing to air as much of it as they can.
Why would you start impeachment proceedings before Mueller testifies?
Change the word testimony to report and this sounds real familiar to what we've been hearing for the last two years.
why would you not? Mueller's report was clear that congress should impeach, and that's if you only consider the Russia stuff to be an impeachable offense
What can they do with the subpoenas? Must they jail them?
Pretty much. Also people are kidding themselves if they think leadership will switch gears at all after Mueller re-reads his report. It'll be the same old shit about how he "self-impeaches" himself everyday. If they truly gave a shit, the wheels for impeachment inquiry would have been set in motion. Yet they shoot it down everytime, and stamp out support for it themselves, all while pondering why the public doesn't support something that they are actively destroying the messaging for.
Who knew the Democratic party was party of nihilists? Like why do anything? Screw morals and ethics!
Mueller's report is already an impeachment referral. You don't really need him to hammer out the details like this.
And I agree. The report was to vague in some parts.
aoc and "the Squad" are costing the party millions of fundraising dollars in Patron Saint of Shade™ t-shirt sales
The report wasn't vague at all. And if you think Mueller will say anything different than what's in the report I've got a bridge to sell you.
now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go smugly say Trump made a "blunder" by blatantly subverting election law
That's not what I said.
Those are not details. It is a crucial thing to know and would change everything.
Where did he say who he wanted to judge Trump?
I agree.
He literally says in the Mueller report that it's up to congress to take action. And he re-verified that on national television.
I have never heard him say that and it isn't in the report(directly). Could you show me the clip with the time when he says that exact thing?
From the Mueller report
he literally can't say it any more clearly than he does directly in the report
You are right and I am wrong.
yeah, even if during the hearing he says "Nancy, you have to impeach now" she'd give an interview about how it's the president's job to impeach himself and how congress has other stuff to do
I live in Belgium. And I look at CNN (because that is the only one I can see) and I will look at Anderson 360 and Cuomo that comes afterwards (only half of it because it is already very very late then here). I try to look a bit at Politico and Washington Post (only the titles because you have to pay to read the articles). That is it.
I was always 100% under the impression that Mueller hinted at Congress. But I never thought it was so explicit. Then it is a very weak response of Pelosi. And she needs to wake up if it isn't to late already. Now she can only hope that Mueller will spoonfed it again to her.
I meant the books, that's where he's a smug idiot while all of his family die horribly.
Well it takes a certain kind of cynicism to think this way but it's not uncommon. Organizations resent people who point out problems more than the problems themselves, leading to things like police corruption, corporate malfeasance etc.
The optics of defending a pedo-defender must be lost on her.
