Curry if he statistically dominates every Finals from here on out and avoids injuries
Curry with 5 rings and 3 FMVPs would put him above LeBron or at least top 5 all time imo
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Curry if he statistically dominates every Finals from here on out and avoids injuries
Curry with 5 rings and 3 FMVPs would put him above LeBron or at least top 5 all time imo
I feel like Curry before KD joined was on that path. People use to be really high on Curry, I remember people use to put him on a similar page as LeBron just based on his impact on the game alone. Now I feel like some people have mixed opinions. Some would disagree he's the best player or most impactful/important player on the Warriors. Others would argue he's not even the best point guard in the league.
Feel free to disagree with this tho, it's just what I noticed.
I fell Curry might fall into the Kobe argument, winning the majority of his titles as the teams second best player. Or at best the co-best player
He also is not the defender any of the top5 players are.
Because they quickly forget the Steph Curry SUPERNOVA! Dude was other worldly when he won those MVPs. I'd choose him over Durant to circulate the offense. Warriors just move a lot smoother with him on the floor, even though he can make some dumb plays here and there.
He nearly averaged a triple double (that's all the rage right?) In last year's finals and I believe an argument could be made that he should have won the FMVP last year. Nowadays he is not breaking through the stratosphere so people have cooled off on him.
He nearly averaged a triple double (that's all the rage right?) In last year's finals and I believe an argument could be made that he should have won the FMVP last year. Nowadays he is not breaking through the stratosphere so people have cooled off on him.
Fair enough, if you got Magic in the top5
Well, LeBron actually averaged a triple double. I love Curry, but he played in 3 finals and he looked like the 3rd best player on the floor in all of them.
I'll give you 2nd best in '15 even though he didn't win the finals mvp
After he came back from his injury for that brief stretch he was putting up numbers that surpassed his 2015-16 season
that's when I was like
holy fuck he's not human
I still remember him being my favorite player because of how beautiful his 3 was in the 2011-12 season, then I stopped watching ball for a bit because of Heatles and Lakers becoming what they did. Was anti GSW because of how many LA fans just bandwagoned onto GSW, shit was gross. Curry will always have a special place in my heart tho
He's #3 all-time to me right now. If he wins one more in Cleveland, he jumps to 2.
If he wins another title anywhere else and gets the scoring record, he's #1 to me.
Him never winning again doesn't hurt his legacy at this point imo. It only can benefit him.
He's already a top 5 PG
It's only whether or not he surpasses Magic
MJ, Kobe, Magic, and Stockton only ones ahead of him in that case
He is gonna surpass Stockton this season. Hell in my eyes he already did.
He is gonna surpass Stockton this season. Hell in my eyes he already did.
I really don't see any path to that tbh. I do think Curry is pretty much a lock for 2nd though, barring injury.
Y'all funny. I feel like this thread at the old place hated on Lebron for having to team up with dudes to win, but Steph is getting all this praise when he has one of the best shooters ever (along with himself) on his team, and now KD. No penalty for Steph, but Lebron gets a penalty. lol
If anything Curry should go down as the most lethal offensive player of all time
Which is mind boggling to me for a 6'3 guy to do that
Nah KD is definitely Curry's only obstacle which is why he would need to completely take over to finish higher all time (which I don't see happening), but advanced stats don't lie Curry is still the most valuable piece to GSW.
I actually think GSW choking in 2016 completely changed the narrative of who was or was going to be the best player in the world, and made a lot more people shit on Curry when they shouldn't have. We are seeing his impact again this season after a full year of integrating in KD.
Even in 2017 Finals this guy was getting doubled up every time and almost averaged a triple double, literally like 2 assists and boards away from doing it. KD only had Bron guarding him.
Which is mind boggling to me for a 6'3 guy to do that
Nah KD is definitely Curry's only obstacle which is why he would need to completely take over to finish higher all time (which I don't see happening), but advanced stats don't lie Curry is still the most valuable piece to GSW.
I actually think GSW choking in 2016 completely changed the narrative of who was or was going to be the best player in the world, and made a lot more people shit on Curry when they shouldn't have. We are seeing his impact again this season after a full year of integrating in KD.
Even in 2017 Finals this guy was getting doubled up every time and almost averaged a triple double, literally like 2 assists and boards away from doing it. KD only had Bron guarding him.
it's because the warriors got to where they were by drafting and developing talent. they trusted the process.
I'm not arguing Curry isn't valuable, I'm also not penalizing Curry imo because of his teammates and how watered down the league is. Just made me laugh to see you guys talking about Curry but for years in this thread, likely different posters, penalizing Lebron for leaving town, when Curry got the second best player in the league to join his team. Just funny to me.
Advanced stats lie all the time. They think Javale Mcgee is actually a good player because he's on the Warriors
Curry's great, but their team composition of so many shooters is the Key. You could replace Curry with Kemba Walker, CJ Mcollum or any other high mid tier PG who can shoot and get the same results
Everyone has to team up with dudes to win, even Michael. Whoever was saying that before was just hating, there's no question LeBron is top 5 all time bare minimum.
As for Steph he's proven you can't stop him regardless of the talent he has on his team. Teams are leaving Klay open so they can guard Steph, not the other way around.
lol, this is an absurdly hot take
you could not replace curry with anyone in the NBA right now and get the same results. that's lunacy.
I know. The transition from the old NBA thread to this one is jarring with less hater-takes apparently.
Yes, but he's probably doing what Golbert is doing and not DPOY stuff.
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The Warriors actually don't have that many shooters, by modern NBA standards, when you take Steph out of the equation. We saw that when he was injured. You can't replace the greatest shooter of all time and 2nd greatest point guard of all time with a fringe All Star and hope to get the same results.
If you replaced Curry with a top 5 PG like Kyrie, Harden, Westbrook, Wall or Lillard GSW are probably a better team.
Curry is a defensive liability who can't get to the rim against top guards. Curry definitely isn't a system PG, but he's also a PG who benefits more from his supporting cast then any other player in the NBA.
If Celtics had Curry they would obliterate the East
Bro Curry is the GREATEST SHOOTER OF ALL TIME
Kyrie's flat earth ass wishes he could pull up from anywhere and do what Curry does
I refuse to believe anyone thinks Dame on GSW is better than they are with Curry
Bro Curry is the GREATEST SHOOTER OF ALL TIME
Kyrie's flat earth ass wishes he could pull up from anywhere and do what Curry does
I refuse to believe anyone thinks Dame on GSW is better than they are with Curry
Dray is more important, well at least before they got KD. Their frontcourt D would be nonexistent without Dray. I agree that their offense is mostly Steph but there's a few teams that can score about as well as they do. You have to defend to win.
Pretty sure there are zero teams in the NBA that score as well as GSW does when they have Curry
which is why with him they have the number 1 ORTG
which is why with him they have the number 1 ORTG
Now I know you're just maybe not a fan of Curry with biased glasses on.
Dude has shaken some of the best guards in the league on a consistent basis. He may not be a big person to play physical defense but by no means is he a defensive liability. A defensive liability is Isaiah Thomas that's what.
the mistake people with curry is mistaking raw explosiveness =/= athelticism
his off ball movement is insane ,he always among top 10 in distance covered every season and he's one of the fastest pushers of the ball up court , that's insane stamina , and he's very quick and shifty
he's not explosive but he's an elite athlete
he's the reason why the warriors can play at an ungodly pace
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Steph Curry is the best shooter of all time who's a great passer, and moves incredibly well off ball. He's literally one of the best offensive player in the league right now.
He's not the best defender because he lacks the strength to be one, but he's got decent length, good hands, and is a smart player.
If you put those other players on the warriors there is no way they'd shoot nearly as well or play nearly as well offensively. There's no evidence of that
Yes, but when you have a league that has developed it's uber talented mega athletes at an all time pace, Curry isnt even a blip in that. He's a really good ball player, but you have other guys who are just so ludicrously athletic that it's not fair to a guy like Steph.
We've seen players with Curry's skillsets before. Unless you want to count his elite shooting and decision making as athleticism, then the argument is pretty silly
He's not the best defender because he lacks the strength to be one, but he's got decent length, good hands, and is a smart player.
If you put those other players on the warriors there is no way they'd shoot nearly as well or play nearly as well offensively. There's no evidence of that
Yes, but when you have a league that has developed it's uber talented mega athletes at an all time pace, Curry isnt even a blip in that. He's a really good ball player, but you have other guys who are just so ludicrously athletic that it's not fair to a guy like Steph.
We've seen players with Curry's skillsets before. Unless you want to count his elite shooting and decision making as athleticism, then the argument is pretty silly
....... they are just scoring like 1 point more than the Rockets and it was less than that last year.
Very true but Curry is still nowhere near a top athlete, almost anywhere.
KD was the worst thing to happen to Curry's legacy because this statement is totally accurate. Make no mistake about it though, Steph is still the best player on the warriors and is the defining player of this era after lebron
The scouting report on how to win against GSW for the last 3 years has been to space the floor and iso a fast guard on Curry. Thats not a coincidence.
Teams typically avoid the PNR vs GSW because that brings Draymond and or KD into the play and they can disrupt any passes away from the lane after Curry gets beaten.
While most of the other guys on my list (Harden, Westbrook, Kyrie) typically play worse defense on a game to game basis due to not giving a crap. In a serious game they can actually play it while Curry gets roasted
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