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NBA Playoffs 2019: End of Lebrongelion | OT | Cus Crisis (Space Jam 2 Now Hiring, Apply Inside!)

Oct 25, 2017
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The Pacers life :(. I'm numb to it.
For what it's worth, despite everything the Pacers have been doing well and have stayed competitive for a very long time. If it's another team that suffered a lot of setbacks as the Pacers did, they'll probably stay irrelevant until now.

That pre-brawl Pacers had the highest chance of a winning a chip. Too bad a Piston fan ruined it.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Prior to Milwaukee securing home court and resting players Milwaukee had a historic point differential which is the best predictor of success. Milwaukee team is one of the most elite teams to ever play the game, so no they aren't playing scrubs but they are will prove they are clearly better than the Raptors. Middleton, Blesdoe, Mirotic can all play better. Bucks just have a just have a higher ceiling, but can still beat the Raptors whilst having a C+ game.



Yes but I'm also showing how unlikely it is to win when you perform as sub par as that. Bucks won't shoot as bad as that again.
What the fuck am I reading? Are you trolling or what, because I can't tell.

I expect some fun hot takes, I don't know how this ^ came about.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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What the fuck am I reading? Are you trolling or what, because I can't tell.

I expect some fun hot takes, I don't know how this ^ came about.
Are you gonna explain how my view is such a hot take.

1,314 seasons had by NBA teams since they expanded to an 82 game season in 1967-68. Only 77 of those have had 60 wins or more, and only 59 have had more than the Milwaukee Bucks’ 60 this season. This puts their season in the 94th percentile all time.


Elite company,no?
 
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Oct 30, 2017
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Are you gonna explain how my view is such a hot take.

1,314 seasons had by NBA teams since they expanded to an 82 game season in 1967-68. Only 77 of those have had 60 wins or more, and only 59 have had more than the Milwaukee Bucks’ 60 this season. This puts their season in the 94th percentile all time.


Elite company,no?
You are out of your ever lovin mind if you think that is enough to call this Bucks team "One of the most elite teams to ever play". This Bucks team doesn't even crack the Top 10 best teams in the history of the NBA. Hell they don't even crack the Top 20 probably.



And I say that as someone wants the Bucks to win it all. You are out of your tree my man.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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You are out of your ever lovin mind if you think that is enough to call this Bucks team "One of the most elite teams to ever play". This Bucks team doesn't even crack the Top 10 best teams in the history of the NBA. Hell they don't even crack the Top 20 probably.



And I say that as someone wants the Bucks to win it all. You are out of your tree my man.
Only 6% of teams seasons have resulted in better season than the Bucks. And only four individual seasons resulted in more blowouts than this season with the Buck's.

If I new how to properly use Basketball Reference I would be better able to illustrate this.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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DFW, Texas
Only 6% of teams seasons have resulted in better season than the Bucks. And only four individual seasons resulted in more blowouts than this season with the Buck's.

If I new how to properly use Basketball Reference I would be better able to illustrate this.
Nah. Just nah. That does not make them one of the most elite teams of all time. Not even close lol


There are so many teams from NBA history that would fucking decimate this Bucks team. 90's bulls, late 80's Pistons, Bill Russel's Celtics, Larry Bird's Celtics, Showtime Lakers, the list goes on my man.
 
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Oct 28, 2017
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Nah. Just nah. That does not make them one of the most elite teams of all time. Not even close lol


There are so many teams from NBA history that would fucking decimate this Bucks team.
Actually if you check out this article Bucks compare quite favourably. Where not talking about whether the Bucks would have beaten the teams you mentioned. I was demonstrating how great a season statically the Bucks have had.
Where the Warriors rank among the NBA's 50 greatest teams of all time
 
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Oct 30, 2017
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Actually if you check out this article Bucks compare quite favourably. Where not talking about whether the Bucks would have beaten the teams you mentioned. I was demonstrating how great a season statically the Bucks have had.
Where the Warriors rank among the NBA's 50 greatest teams of all time
You can quote stats at me all day long. I could not possibly care less.


They were not even the best team this SEASON! Let alone one of the best teams of all time. There is not a single solitary chance in hell you are gonna convince me this Bucks team is one of the best teams of all time. I have seen too much basketball and have seen too many of the highlights from the greatest players and teams of all time for that. The Bucks are a good team and they were one of the best teams in the league this season but they are not a generational team. They are not a once in a decade marvel. This Bucks team does not even crack the Top 10 and unless they win the championship this season they do not even crack the Top 20.


Once again I say this as someone who wants them to win it all. I picked them to beat the Raptors. But what you are doing right now trying to say they are one of the elite teams of all time is laughable.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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You can quote stats at me all day long. I could not possibly care less.


They were not even the best team this SEASON! Let alone one of the best teams of all time. There is not a single solitary chance in hell you are gonna convince me this Bucks team is one of the best teams of all time. I have seen too much basketball and have seen too many of the highlights from the greatest players and teams of all time for that. The Bucks are a good team and they were one of the best teams in the league this season but they are not a generational team. They are not a once in a decade marvel. This Bucks team does not even crack the Top 10 and unless they win the championship this season they do not even crack the Top 20.


Once again I say this as someone who wants them to win it all. I picked them to beat the Raptors. But what you are doing right now trying to say they are one of the elite teams of all time is laughable.
Cool one of us comes with facts and figures the other comes with there opinion. Neither of us is changing their position. Good day to you.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Cool one of us comes with facts and figures the other comes with there opinion. Neither of us is changing their position. Good day to you.
"facts" lol You are using cherry picked statistics to back up your already established opinion.



The Warriors hold the record for most wins in a season. Does that make them the best team of all time? Of course it doesn't. They didn't even win the championship that year. Stats only mean so much and you are trying to make them mean everything.
 
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Oct 31, 2017
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MrTired has got to be Fultz in real life or something, no way someone can make such a dumb statement. 60 wins from the garbage East doesn't put you anywhere near the best teams ever during regular season, regardless of how many 🍒 picked stats you look at. They're middle of the pack tier 2 and I'm being very friendly. Hopefully he's a Bucks homer which is the only explanation for that baseless, asinine statement.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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If the person you quoted check the article I link written by Kevin Pelton he would have seen Golden States 72-9 season was only the 25 best season of all time statistical.

Naturally, the 73-win Warriors are the highest-rated non-champions of all time. Actually, whether Golden State won or lost Game 7 of the Finals didn't affect the team's rating much, which seems fair given that few teams have gotten closer to a championship without winning it. Even before Cleveland's comeback from being down 3-1, however, the Warriors weren't nearly as dominant in the playoffs -- with Stephen Curry limited by an MCL sprain -- as they were during their historic regular season.
Where the Warriors rank among the NBA's 50 greatest teams of all time

MrTired has got to be Fultz in real life or something, no way someone can make such a dumb statement. 60 wins from the garbage East doesn't put you anywhere near the best teams ever during regular season, regardless of how many 🍒 picked stats you look at. They're middle of the pack tier 2 and I'm being very friendly. Hopefully he's a Bucks homer which is the only explanation for that baseless, asinine statement.
Atleast have the decency to @ me when you talk about me.
So instead of disproving what I said with evidence you make snide comments and don't back up your opinion at all. Bravo.
 
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Oct 31, 2017
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Wait Lowry was the only person to make a field goal on the raptors in the 4th quarter. That can’t be true can it.
Imagine if this happened with Lebron or Steph and their team lost. Everyone would still be discussing how much of a fraud they are until the next game. Difference between a normal superstar and an ATG.

Kawhi seems to be in a strange place where he doesn't have the expectations but gets the accolades an ATG gets.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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He been clutch all playoff.. by law of average he bound to have stinker.. we can chill
I'm just calling it what is. If we reverse the roles, either of those 2 guys there would be memes already on twitter blasting them. He had 41 in 40 shots the previous game as well, which would be an L vs any legit contender.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Are you gonna explain how my view is such a hot take.

1,314 seasons had by NBA teams since they expanded to an 82 game season in 1967-68. Only 77 of those have had 60 wins or more, and only 59 have had more than the Milwaukee Bucks’ 60 this season. This puts their season in the 94th percentile all time.


Elite company,no?
LETS GO BUCKS!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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They didn't even win the championship that year. They were not even the best team that season let alone in the history the NBA. Number of wins doesn't mean dick if you don't get the ring.
I hate these best lists.

Most people here didn't see any basketball before the 90s. There have been a lot of great teams through the years. Even an old like me doesn't have a memory of basketball before 1983.

Regarding the Warriors, I agree you can't be considered the best team of the season when you lose in the Finals (making the Cavs the best team that year), but their ability to win 73 games was special and that is the record until proven otherwise.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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I hate these best lists.

Most people here didn't see any basketball before the 90s. There have been a lot of great teams through the years. Even an old like me doesn't have a memory of basketball before 1983.

Regarding the Warriors, I agree you can't be considered the best team of the season when you lose in the Finals (making the Cavs the best team that year), but their ability to win 73 games was special and that is the record until proven otherwise.
Dont get me wrong the 73 game season is special. I don't think we will see that eclipsed for quite a while, but I am just saying that it doesn't make them the best team of all time.

Trying to call a team who didn't even get the ring the best team ever is just stupid in my opinion.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Dont get me wrong the 73 game season is special. I don't think we will see that eclipsed for quite a while, but I am just saying that it doesn't make them the best team of all time.

Trying to call a team who didn't even get the ring the best team ever is just stupid in my opinion.
Scientifcally the best team of all time was the 94-95 Lakers and the best player of all time was Cedric Ceballos, who most of you don't know this but averaged 20 points a game despite only playing 2 quarters. If he had played the usual 4 they would have gone undefeated.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Scientifcally the best team of all time was the 94-95 Lakers and the best player of all time was Cedric Ceballos, who most of you don't know this but averaged 20 points a game despite only playing 2 quarters. If he had played the usual 4 they would have gone undefeated.
I mean you cant argue with science
 
Nov 13, 2017
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Imagine if this happened with Lebron or Steph and their team lost. Everyone would still be discussing how much of a fraud they are until the next game. Difference between a normal superstar and an ATG.

Kawhi seems to be in a strange place where he doesn't have the expectations but gets the accolades an ATG gets.
I think Steph is immune to this too, because (if KD is out there) KD would get the blame. If KD isn't there, then he still wouldn't get blamed much.

Lebron, KD, Harden, Westbrook would get destroyed.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I think Steph is immune to this too, because (if KD is out there) KD would get the blame. If KD isn't there, then he still wouldn't get blamed much.

Lebron, KD, Harden, Westbrook would get destroyed.
You miss those before after playoff meme that Steph had in those rough stretch where he shooting like 30% for like 7 game in a row?
 
Oct 31, 2017
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On one hand, Bud has some precedent for creating regular-season juggernauts that weren't quite as good as their win total. On the other hand, this Bucks team has probably gotten a little underrated all season compared to just how good they've been. They won 60 games while somehow still underperforming their point differential.
 
Nov 13, 2017
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You miss those before after playoff meme that Steph had in those rough stretch where he shooting like 30% for like 7 game in a row?
Are people really acting like Steph wasn't getting clowned this postseason?
He got clowned, sure, but nowhere near the level as those other guys. Maybe that's just my perception, but the Curry defense force seems a lot more adamant than the Harden/Lebron/KD defense force. Heck, people are quick to explain it away with a potential injury.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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He got clowned, sure, but nowhere near the level as those other guys. Maybe that's just my perception, but the Curry defense force seems a lot more adamant than the Harden/Lebron/KD defense force. Heck, people are quick to explain it away with a potential injury.
He wasn't even called a top 5 player and people saying there would be no dynasty without KD. what rock have you been living under?

There were memes going on after game 3 until he won game 5. He's 28-1 in the last 29 games without KD and many analysists say he's clearly inferior and holding KD down during Clippers and Rockets series.
 
Nov 15, 2017
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"facts" lol You are using cherry picked statistics to back up your already established opinion.



The Warriors hold the record for most wins in a season. Does that make them the best team of all time? Of course it doesn't. They didn't even win the championship that year. Stats only mean so much and you are trying to make them mean everything.
I mean they were best team of all time until the last game of the season... lol
Shame, the Bucks will be the second best team ever that didn't win a ring.
 
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