Finals MVP:Iguodala is the 4th/5th most important player on a championship team, and was he ever a top 10 player before he joined the Warriors? Doubtful.
Iggy - 1
Klay - 0
Checkmate Buster Brown
Finals MVP:Iguodala is the 4th/5th most important player on a championship team, and was he ever a top 10 player before he joined the Warriors? Doubtful.
I guess you only watched him with the Nuggets, but not the Sixers.Iguodala is the 4th/5th most important player on a championship team, and was he ever a top 10 player before he joined the Warriors? Doubtful.
Klay's defense is pretty valubale IMOthe only necessary players on the Warriors are Steph, Draymond, and maybe Iguodala
If I wanted to fix the supermax here is how I'd do it.
How you ask?
Introduce a franchise player payment.
NBA Allstar voting would change from the current free for all, to each team nominating one player on their roster to be added to the Allstar ballot.* These 15 players would be considered franchise players and would get a 10M bonus for the honour at the cost of not being able to be traded until after the All Star break. In adition there would be a first team all conference as selected by a panel of experts who would be added to the voting pool. These players would also get the bonus but it would be paid collectively via revenue sharing/the league.
In practice that would have 400M of the Cap (so almost 10 percent) to the leagues best players and keeping the Max contract from hurting small market teams.
It also rewards production in this situation an injury like Jon walls would cost Washington 40M less then it currently does while allowing the team to flexibly spend that money on a useful player.
Given some tweaking here is what this years Allstar voting rosters in the west would have looked like
First team Curry Harden George Durant Davis followed by team reps
Klay, Lebron, Harris, Heild, Booker, Lillard, Westbrook, Gobert, Jolic, Butler (Kat if traded) Paul, Holiday, Clonley, Dirk, Aldridge/Derozen.
No fan would begrudge those players getting paid and finding a 12 player rotation/team from that list via fan voting would be fun.
The other thing to do would be to institute a rule that said No trading Rookies. The smart teams in the NBA Essentially use rookie contracts to Launder basketball talent and beat the salary cap. Removing that possibility you spread talent slightly more evenly.
I prefer discipline(kawhi) over intensity(green). let's see where the rest of this series goes before we make any predictions about Giannis.
Or he was just never a top 10 playerI guess you only watched him with the Nuggets, but not the Sixers.
what in tarnationIf I wanted to fix the supermax here is how I'd do it.
How you ask?
Introduce a franchise player payment.
NBA Allstar voting would change from the current free for all, to each team nominating one player on their roster to be added to the Allstar ballot.* These 15 players would be considered franchise players and would get a 10M bonus for the honour at the cost of not being able to be traded until after the All Star break. In adition there would be a first team all conference as selected by a panel of experts who would be added to the voting pool. These players would also get the bonus but it would be paid collectively via revenue sharing/the league.
In practice that would have 400M of the Cap (so almost 10 percent) to the leagues best players and keeping the Max contract from hurting small market teams.
It also rewards production in this situation an injury like Jon walls would cost Washington 40M less then it currently does while allowing the team to flexibly spend that money on a useful player.
Given some tweaking here is what this years Allstar voting rosters in the west would have looked like
First team Curry Harden George Durant Davis followed by team reps
Klay, Lebron, Harris, Heild, Booker, Lillard, Westbrook, Gobert, Jolic, Butler (Kat if traded) Paul, Holiday, Clonley, Dirk, Aldridge/Derozen.
No fan would begrudge those players getting paid and finding a 12 player rotation/team from that list via fan voting would be fun.
The other thing to do would be to institute a rule that said No trading Rookies. The smart teams in the NBA Essentially use rookie contracts to Launder basketball talent and beat the salary cap. Removing that possibility you spread talent slightly more evenly.
I think ur severely underestimating the bucks. the length and reach of the bucks is going to count for something. Green on Giannis is a mismatch and I think if the bucks play good defense, they will rein the warriors back in.
Was this supposed to be some sort of checkmate type post? Iggy was never a top-10 player, probably not even a top 25 player.I guess you only watched him with the Nuggets, but not the Sixers.
I think ur severely underestimating the bucks. the length and reach of the bucks is going to count for something. Green on Giannis is a mismatch and I think if the bucks play good defense, they will rein the warriors back in.
Official Loser Rankings of 2019 Playoffs
1. Boston Celtics - Best losers by far. Swept first round, blew out one of the 2 best teams in the playoffs in game one. Many teams try to lose this good, most fail.
2. Los Angeles Clippers - Strong losers. Took the Warriors to 7 and caused people make fun of the Lakers. Very strong performance.
3. Philadelphia 76ers. Mid tier losers. Had some solid wins, but lost to the Toronto Leonards on a last second 3. Bad lose.
4. Spot reserved for Toronto Raptors. Below average losers, going nowhere. Sad team.
5. Detroit Pistons. Strong men. We love them. VeePs
6. Brooklyn Nets. Bad team, very good losers. Jared Dudley is an LVP, one of the finest players I can think of.
Low tier losers - these teams are separated into a different tier because I don't want to do this anymore but I cannot leave the list half finished
7. San Antonio Spurs
8. Orlando Magic
9. Indiana Pacers
10. Denver Nuggets
11. Portland Trail Blazers
12. Utah Jazz
13. Oklahoma City Thunder
Lowest Tier
14. Houston Rockets - Pathetic losers. They boast of their losing record on Twitter to show that they lost the best, which actually proves that they lost the most.
I want Max Klay and max Dray on the same team minus CurryKlay is an elite two-way player by the eye test but grades out as shockingly mediocre both by individual stats and adjusted on-off metrics. I hope he leaves because it's good data in a fascinating player-eval test case.
Nah we got da next kobe RJ Barret.
A decidedly Knicks fan take
Okay, so got a request. If you had to pick FIVE trivia/facts/stats would be the strongest argument for LBJ being a top 3 player, which would you pick? Using rings? Stats? Accolades? Which?
That's all it takes. Dre is making the best of the situation he's in and he plays a key role. Nobody is gonna be bold enough to make a similar case for Harrison Barnes or Andrew Bogut.Iggy used to brick shots and be hot trash in east playoffs. Every accolade he might get today and in the future is 'cause he has some incredible genes and played next to Steph.
Okay, so got a request. If you had to pick FIVE trivia/facts/stats would be the strongest argument for LBJ being a top 3 player, which would you pick? Using rings? Stats? Accolades? Which?
There was never a team he was top 10 or close to it, stop it.I guess you only watched him with the Nuggets, but not the Sixers.
we do it right 👍Pistons are awesome losers. Two good starters, and the best player could only play 2 games on one leg. Second year guy was the best looking player on the team. Swept by the Bucks? So. Highly talented, "67 win season" Boston won a single game against them.
Detroit makes losing look fucking good.
Okay, so got a request. If you had to pick FIVE trivia/facts/stats would be the strongest argument for LBJ being a top 3 player, which would you pick? Using rings? Stats? Accolades? Which?
you forgot to mention that the rockets got their twitter account suspendedOfficial Loser Rankings of 2019 Playoffs
1. Boston Celtics - Best losers by far. Swept first round, blew out one of the 2 best teams in the playoffs in game one. Many teams try to lose this good, most fail.
2. Los Angeles Clippers - Strong losers. Took the Warriors to 7 and caused people make fun of the Lakers. Very strong performance.
3. Philadelphia 76ers. Mid tier losers. Had some solid wins, but lost to the Toronto Leonards on a last second 3. Bad lose.
4. Spot reserved for Toronto Raptors. Below average losers, going nowhere. Sad team.
5. Detroit Pistons. Strong men. We love them. VeePs
6. Brooklyn Nets. Bad team, very good losers. Jared Dudley is an LVP, one of the finest players I can think of.
Low tier losers - these teams are separated into a different tier because I don't want to do this anymore but I cannot leave the list half finished
7. San Antonio Spurs
8. Orlando Magic
9. Indiana Pacers
10. Denver Nuggets
11. Portland Trail Blazers
12. Utah Jazz
13. Oklahoma City Thunder
Lowest Tier
14. Houston Rockets - Pathetic losers. They boast of their losing record on Twitter to show that they lost the best, which actually proves that they lost the most.
1. Team records in the season before he left and after: Cleveland Cavaliers record in 2009-10: 61-21. Record in 2010-11: 19-63. Miami Heat record in 2013-14: 54-28. Record in 2014-15: 37-45. Cleveland Cavaliers record in 2017-18: 50-32. Record in 2018-19: 19-63.Okay, so got a request. If you had to pick FIVE trivia/facts/stats would be the strongest argument for LBJ being a top 3 player, which would you pick? Using rings? Stats? Accolades? Which?
without of course. Giannis is a LeBron Caliber player. They needed KD to beat Lebron.
Giannis ever gets a reliable jumper, he'll be a problem. Lebron went from a ~27-30 percent 3pt shooter to a respectable 37 or so shooter - even shot 40 percent one year.
lmao... this is true.I'm going to be dangerous in the NBA if I get Curry's shot and Kyrie's handles
It is amazing how dominant he is in this day and age without a reliable jumper.
All Rookie 1st Team
Luka Doncic
Trae Young
Deandre Ayton
Jaren Jackson Jr.
Marvin Bagley III
All Rookie 2nd Team
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Collin Sexton
Landry Shamet
Kevin Huerter
Mitchell Robinson
Giannis ever gets a reliable jumper, he'll be a problem. Lebron went from a ~27-30 percent 3pt shooter to a respectable 37 or so shooter - even shot 40 percent one year.
Giannis will evolve into 3annis and the NBA will cower in fear
Only person in a series EVER to lead both team in all major statistical categories. He did it on the biggest stage. I'm not sure there will ever be a player to do that again. Do you understand how dominant you have to be to pull that shit off?1. Team records in the season before he left and after: Cleveland Cavaliers record in 2009-10: 61-21. Record in 2010-11: 19-63. Miami Heat record in 2013-14: 54-28. Record in 2014-15: 37-45. Cleveland Cavaliers record in 2017-18: 50-32. Record in 2018-19: 19-63.
2. 8 straight Finals appearances with two different teams (and two stints on a Cleveland team separated by four years with completely different personnel).
3. Led the Cleveland Cavaliers to their only championship trailing 1-3 in the series against the team with the greatest regular season record of all time.
4. Led the league in PER six times, trailing only Jordan, Kareem and Wilt for number of years leading the category. Also only trails those three players in number of years leading in win shares. His career PER average is second only to Jordan's and his career win shares will likely be second all-time behind Kareem when he retires.
5. Ummmm... MVP awards I guess? Tied for fourth all time with Wilt (each has 4), trails only Jordan, Russell and Kareem. Tied with three other players for second all time with four Finals MVPs (Jordan leads with six).