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NBC News: Russian documents reveal desire to sow racial discord and violence in the U.S.
- Thread starter Kreed
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Looks like Russia has been seancing with Khalid Muhammad. I'm all for the 5 states, that's what 40 Acres and a mule for the freed would probably add up to.
The oligarchs should buy land from under folks and sell it back to Black folk at a discount. A violent Black group won't work, things aren't as desperate as in the past. Shoulda came through in 1877 Russia!
The oligarchs should buy land from under folks and sell it back to Black folk at a discount. A violent Black group won't work, things aren't as desperate as in the past. Shoulda came through in 1877 Russia!
Its a trap, we would be a wall protecting the US from Florida.
These racial discord plans make it so obvious that Russia doesn't have any Black friends. If you want to fuck America up, invest billions in the Black community and watch half the country lose their shit. Reconstruction 2.0 would end the place lol. At the least, Russia should team up with Black billionaires and buy out Alabama.
LOL.
I mean....did you already know that Russia was at one point toying with the idea of transplanting african american men to Africa for combat training to then be rereleased back into the states to... just start attacking people I guess?
That reminds me of their disinformation campaign to blame AIDS on the government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infektion
Aftermath
In 1992, 15% of Americans considered it definitely or probably true that "the AIDS virus was created deliberately in a government laboratory." In 2005, a study by the RAND Corporation and Oregon State University revealed that nearly 50% of African Americans thought AIDS was man-made, over 25% believed AIDS was a product of a government laboratory, 12% believed it was created and spread by the CIA, and 15% believed that AIDS was a form of genocide against black people. Other AIDS conspiracy theories have abounded, and have been discredited by the mainstream scientific community.
In 1992, KGB Director Yevgeny Primakov admitted that the KGB was behind the newspaper articles claiming that AIDS was created by the U.S. government. Segal's role was exposed by KGB defector Vasili Mitrokhin in the Mitrokhin Archive. The 1999 book Stasi: The Untold Story of the East German Secret Police describes how the Stasi cooperated with the KGB to spread the story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infektion
Aftermath
In 1992, 15% of Americans considered it definitely or probably true that "the AIDS virus was created deliberately in a government laboratory." In 2005, a study by the RAND Corporation and Oregon State University revealed that nearly 50% of African Americans thought AIDS was man-made, over 25% believed AIDS was a product of a government laboratory, 12% believed it was created and spread by the CIA, and 15% believed that AIDS was a form of genocide against black people. Other AIDS conspiracy theories have abounded, and have been discredited by the mainstream scientific community.
In 1992, KGB Director Yevgeny Primakov admitted that the KGB was behind the newspaper articles claiming that AIDS was created by the U.S. government. Segal's role was exposed by KGB defector Vasili Mitrokhin in the Mitrokhin Archive. The 1999 book Stasi: The Untold Story of the East German Secret Police describes how the Stasi cooperated with the KGB to spread the story.
Russia doing their research.
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
- Lyndon B. Johnson
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
- Lyndon B. Johnson
I honestly don't think Russian racial disinformation was successful at all. Hillary was never going to get the Black turnout that Obama got (A+ polished politician who was Black vs Hillary), voter ID laws and suppression kicked into high gear the last decade, and disillusionment after 8 years of a Black president and conditions not changing could cause some to sit out. This would be enough to cover a 7% drop imo.Finkelstein figured this out a long time ago too;
Divide people to win.
Edit: Just checked Pew. Hillary unsurprisingly went back to Al Gore levels of Black voter turnout (back to normal range), which was already higher than previous decades.
Russia convinced two hundred Black people, max, to sit this out.
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But America did it to itself.
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The silence from the Putin supporters is deafening in this thread.
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The silence from the Putin supporters is deafening in this thread.
Looking at the underlying issues Russian intelligence agents probably got more than they bargained for I don't think even they expected the situation was as bad.
Somebody also made a point that America is still segregated it's not a meltingpot but a collection of cultures segregated from each other.
Somebody also made a point that America is still segregated it's not a meltingpot but a collection of cultures segregated from each other.
It's staggering how much of russian foreign policy follows this book.
The racial disinformation wasn't aimed only at black people. The biggest thing is giving so-openminded-your-brain-falls-out types an excuse to vote against Hillary. (aka white people who won't feel the consequences) "Both sides are the same" and all that.
It's not so much how many they influenced but where.
Manafort wasn't giving polling data to the Russians for research purposes.
Putin and Trump's worldviews are both frozen in a world decades out of date.
The KGB did similar things during the civil rights era. The paranoia about communist infiltrators at the time wasn't completely unfounded.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/542796/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/542796/
Sad, but true. With tens of millions of Americans looking for an excuse to go out and kill minorities, it seems like a no-brainer to fuel racism to divide the country. A good chunk of the population is dreaming of that divide and hoping the Confederacy will rise again. Nuclear war hardly seems efficient when you've got a socio-political lever you can pull that makes a country metaphorically stab itself in the eye without your firing off a single shot.