on the hardcore note, i think it's worth pointing out that racists gravitate to the genre, but it doesn't work in reverse. there's the occasional skrewdriver or the like that makes some kind of crossover into the 'normal' scene, but for the most part the white nationalist hardcore scene is a self-contained cottage industry. they make music for a specific audience and are generally marginalized to the communities of explicit racists - you don't really see them making headway in any of wider scene. i'll concede that it's been a long time since i've had my finger anywhere near the pulse of the genre, so maybe there's been a significant change since i did, but that shit was largely just derided and mocked, if discussed at all.
