Neighbors and Fence Dilemma

Oct 25, 2017
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I need advice on how to proceed with a fence, when my neighbor and I don't agree on the fence style. I want to put a post and rail fence between our properties. He said that he doesn't care because he's going to put up a privacy fence along that line in a year or two. We'll then end up with back to back fences with an unruly strip between them that I'll have to maintain, or remove my fence.

Is there a solution, or am I screwed?
 

Pickman

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Nov 20, 2017
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Have your property line defined by a certified, insured surveyor, and then build your fence six inches inside of that on your own property. After that if he wants to put up a privacy fence on his side of that line, it's entirely his choice. Never, ever build on the line itself.
 
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PrivateWHudson
Oct 25, 2017
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Have your property line defined by a certified, insured surveyor, and then build your fence six inches inside of that on your own property. After that if he wants to put up a privacy fence on his side of that line, it's entirely his choice. Never, ever build on the line itself.
Right, but then I'm stuck with a foot of grass in-between. No sweat off of his back, since he won't be able to see it, due to the privacy fence, but I'll have an extra 200 ft of weed wacking if I want it to look nice on my side.
 

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Sounds like it's some sort of compromise or you're screwed. Seems like the neighbor has the upper hand here.
 

Kyuur

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Do you really want a see-through fence right next to his?

To me the solution would be to just work with him to get the privacy fence up and not fence the yard on that side.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do you really want a see-through fence right next to his?

To me the solution would be to just work with him to get the privacy fence up and not fence the yard on that side.
Yeah, it's this unfortunately. You'll get to see your nice fence with open space behind it until he puts up the solid one, and then your side looks worse. I'd just put something temporary up if you need the fence, and then take it down when his goes up.
 

NinjaScooter

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My parents have that situation on one side of their property and I don’t think it’s really been an issue in terms of maintenance in the area in between
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Neighbor fence disputes ahhh.

One day 2 years ago our back neighbor rang our doorbell, put a note (about dogs getting out) on our door and dropped our joint fence a few minutes later. My wife was on the couch and saw her walk up and if your'e at the front door you can see someone on the couch as well. If they had provided notice, our joint three neighbors would have worked out a plan for the fence to match the other fences but alas, we now have mix matched fences. I did all that an impotent person can do and left a nasty note on her door and on nextdoor. Smh smf. Sigh.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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Me and my neighbor once had a discussion about the fence that blew down during a storm. He refused to put any money towards it saying that it was my responsibility alone to fix it. He then had the gall to say to me That he didn’t want want the fence to be too tall, I said I’m paying for it so it’ll as tall as I please. I built the fence as tall as the city would allow, it’s a monument to petty malice.
 
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PrivateWHudson
Oct 25, 2017
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My parents have that situation on one side of their property and I don’t think it’s really been an issue in terms of maintenance in the area in between
I'd like to think that it wouldn't, but I'd hate to be wrong and have a permanent chore of keeping down any overgrowth. I've been spending a lot of time clearing old overgrown weed trees.
 

NinjaScooter

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I'd like to think that it wouldn't, but I'd hate to be wrong and have a permanent chore of keeping down any overgrowth. I've been spending a lot of time clearing old overgrown weed trees.
i think the only issue I can remember my dad mentioned is that a possum got stuck in there lol but I guess it could also depend on a lot of different factors (region, climate, soil) so I can understand the concern. It would definitely be a pain in the ass if it were something that required regular maintenance.
 

dubc

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Oct 27, 2017
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Maybe. We have some super invasive weeds that grow onto mulch and make a mulch area tough to maintain as well.
I thought there would be more examples searching this online, but I only see this one lol:

#12a Two neighbors not communicating

In photo #12a: I’m not sure what happened here. Either the neighbors were fighting over their property lines or somehow they both had their new fences installed on the same day without mentioning it to each other. There is about 16 inches between the fences. I’ve witnessed one of the fence owners squeezing between the two fences to rake out the tall overgrowth, weeds, leaves and such. Very weird.


It looks like the neighbor outside the privacy fence usually puts in landscaping. Instead of just mulch, maybe raised planter boxes? No idea on property size, climate, desire to even do this (lol), etc so may not be an option.
 
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I'm paying. I get that it's tough right now due to Covid to have the extra cash, but he didn't even hint to paying for part of it if I went with privacy. I have the time now to do it and don't want to wait until he gets around to it.
Just put up what you want then. If you're paying, he doesn't really care and you don't want to wait for him to put his fence up, stick yours up. Enjoy it for however long, then he puts his privacy fence up adjacent and then you take yours down. Free fence and maybe even a bit more land....
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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My neighbor matched his fence with mine - but my appreciation was short lived when he planted extremely invasive bamboo - and he also has about a quarter of my yard as an easemtn to his garage - which he has never used and turned into an unpermitted living space. He's otherwise a good neighbor.
 
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PrivateWHudson
Oct 25, 2017
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I thought there would be more examples searching this online, but I only see this one lol:




It looks like the neighbor outside the privacy fence usually puts in landscaping. Instead of just mulch, maybe raised planter boxes? No idea on property size, climate, desire to even do this (lol), etc so may not be an option.
That's exactly what I'm thinking will happen. All of that shit in between will be mine to clean up, or look at. God, I'm not looking forward to that.
 
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PrivateWHudson
Oct 25, 2017
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My neighbor matched his fence with mine - but my appreciation was short lived when he planted extremely invasive bamboo - and he also has about a quarter of my yard as an easemtn to his garage - which he has never used and turned into an unpermitted living space. He's otherwise a good neighbor.
OMG, I hate bamboo. My neighbor on the other side planted bamboo 30 years ago. This house was my grandfather's, and he just let it go on our side. The neighbor killed all of his right quick when he realized it was a bad idea, but I ended up having to clear a 100' x 30' section. It still comes up around the trees and whatnot, where the mower doesn't get every week.
 

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You could try to frame him for a serious crime before he can erect the fence, get him sent to prison. Or like FP said, just call a surveyor and once you get a precise idea of where your property ends, build the fence back a bit so a lawn mower can fit in there.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Seattle
I need advice on how to proceed with a fence, when my neighbor and I don't agree on the fence style. I want to put a post and rail fence between our properties. He said that he doesn't care because he's going to put up a privacy fence along that line in a year or two. We'll then end up with back to back fences with an unruly strip between them that I'll have to maintain, or remove my fence.

Is there a solution, or am I screwed?
Yes, you are screwed. We are in the exact the same situation. Although a bit different, we wanted privacy fence, because it was directly in our back yard, our neighbor this section of his yard was not visible from his house, so he was fine with just horse fencing.

Do make sure you check the official
Property lines, if he builds on your property, he can eventually claim it as his.
 
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NubCakes09

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Oct 28, 2017
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I have the same situation at my house. Between my fence and my neighbors is about a foot of grass. Since the grass is technically on my property I’m responsible for weed whacking it. Its
a slight pain in the ass.
 

BAGERK

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Oct 27, 2017
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I thought there would be more examples searching this online, but I only see this one lol:




It looks like the neighbor outside the privacy fence usually puts in landscaping. Instead of just mulch, maybe raised planter boxes? No idea on property size, climate, desire to even do this (lol), etc so may not be an option.
As a surveyor in Australia this photo is deeply upsetting to me hahaha.

I don't understand how leaving a gap between 2 fences that are purposely not built on the boundary is a proper solution to anything.
 

GungHo

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Nov 27, 2017
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I thought there would be more examples searching this online, but I only see this one lol:




It looks like the neighbor outside the privacy fence usually puts in landscaping. Instead of just mulch, maybe raised planter boxes? No idea on property size, climate, desire to even do this (lol), etc so may not be an option.
When I look at this, my feet and ankles think "fire ant infestation".
 

Prinz Eugn

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mentioned that it would be an extra $1000 for a privacy fence that I don't even want, and that's when he said "I don't wanna think about this anymore today".
Seems weird, either he splits the cost of a privacy fence now, or pays the full cost later. He could just have had a bad day and didn't feel like making or approaching a $1000 decision. I would definitely talk to him again.

That being said, he's probably going to procrastinate on his fence forever, "a year or two" is code for "someday," which is code for "probably not before I die." If he was actually serious about doing it, he should be jumping at the chance to split costs.
 

xxracerxx

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Oct 25, 2017
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As a surveyor in Australia this photo is deeply upsetting to me hahaha.

I don't understand how leaving a gap between 2 fences that are purposely not built on the boundary is a proper solution to anything.
This is what I do not get...why are the fences not built on the property line?
 

RiOrius

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Oct 27, 2017
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That being said, he's probably going to procrastinate on his fence forever, "a year or two" is code for "someday," which is code for "probably not before I die." If he was actually serious about doing it, he should be jumping at the chance to split costs.
This is my takeaway. OP, you do you. If there's a problem a few years down the line when the neighbor does whatever he's doing, you can find a solution then. Trying to plan around the various things he could in theory do seems unproductive.

Although this is coming from someone with no real experience in landscaping, homeowning, etc., and no idea about the expenses involved in the projects being proposed. Which means I'm an unbiased and objective advisor, whose opinion is definitely correct!
 
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PrivateWHudson
Oct 25, 2017
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This is what I do not get...why are the fences not built on the property line?
The property line itself is shared, so if we agreed on the style of fencing, I'd just put it on the line. But since he wants a privacy fence, but doesn't want to chip in at this moment in time, me putting the fence on the line would infringe on his ability to put what he wants on the line. So I'll have to set mine back a few inches, and he'll eventually do the same. Leaving a runway in-between.
 

Zoe

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Oct 25, 2017
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The property line itself is shared, so if we agreed on the style of fencing, I'd just put it on the line. But since he wants a privacy fence, but doesn't want to chip in at this moment in time, me putting the fence on the line would infringe on his ability to put what he wants on the line. So I'll have to set mine back a few inches, and he'll eventually do the same. Leaving a runway in-between.
Just curious--why wouldn't you want a privacy fence between the two of you? You could still do rails on the adjacent side.
 
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PrivateWHudson
Oct 25, 2017
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Just curious--why wouldn't you want a privacy fence between the two of you? You could still do rails on the adjacent side.
It's a big yard, and I don't want a 200 foot long monster wall. That, and it would cost an extra $1000 on top of the $3500 I'm already spending...just in materials. I really have no need for "privacy" since all they can really see from their yard is our kids playing football.