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Netflix’s The Society is one of the best YA shows I’ve seen

Oct 26, 2017
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Using a big mystery as a way of telling the story of characters is an actual plot writing device, it's not some lazy writers making it up thing.
I understand it's a device, but it's a shitty one that I have yet to see a TV show that properly pays it off. I can watch any number of tv shows that have any number of quality characters in them. I can say so far through 4 episodes of this, the characters in this show ain't it. The characters in The Leftover weren't it. The characters in Lost weren't even it. Those shows built upon layers of mystery only to pay it off with "the journey was more important than the destination, weren't our characters it tho?!" and I've gotten tired of so many shows promising a destination and only delivering copy/paste characters and canned melodrama.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I understand it's a device, but it's a shitty one that I have yet to see a TV show that properly pays it off. I can watch any number of tv shows that have any number of quality characters in them. I can say so far through 4 episodes of this, the characters in this show ain't it. The characters in The Leftover weren't it. The characters in Lost weren't even it. Those shows built upon layers of mystery only to pay it off with "the journey was more important than the destination, weren't our characters it tho?!" and I've gotten tired of so many shows promising a destination and only delivering copy/paste characters and canned melodrama.
The journey being the pay off is the whole reason you would use a McGuffin.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I tried this and couldn't make it through episode one. The characters are very unlikeable and the dialogue is awful. I like the setup for the mystery but it doesn't seem like there is any payoff by the end of the season so no reason for me to continue.
 
Mar 18, 2019
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I understand it's a device, but it's a shitty one that I have yet to see a TV show that properly pays it off. I can watch any number of tv shows that have any number of quality characters in them. I can say so far through 4 episodes of this, the characters in this show ain't it. The characters in The Leftover weren't it. The characters in Lost weren't even it. Those shows built upon layers of mystery only to pay it off with "the journey was more important than the destination, weren't our characters it tho?!" and I've gotten tired of so many shows promising a destination and only delivering copy/paste characters and canned melodrama.

 
Oct 27, 2017
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Chicago
I've seen ep 1 & 2. Though they were exceptionally poorly shot. The show looks like it was produced by a group of youtubers with gimbals and drones. Also I'm so over these character tropes and stereotypes. I though we had moved on from jocks vs nerds but apparently it's back to the early 00's with this one.
Just started watching the show and figured that I would chime in with my thoughts and this post about summed it up. I disagree with almost everything the OP said.

Kathryn Newton, Sean Berdy and Olivia DeJonge carry the show entirely, everyone else plays a tired teenage archetype that feels like they were pulled off of roles on a planned upcoming season of Degrassi once that got canned only to be placed onto this project. The writing is downright atrocious, filled with bizarre non-sequitors that read like a desperate attempt by a writer’s room filled with fifty-something year olds trying to ape teenage prose and social dynamics. I’m on episode three now and that’s about two and a half hours worth of content and yet, I feel like I hardly know these characters, their true intentions or the timeline of events as the pacing is noticeably disjointed and nonsensical.

I don’t want to dunk on every aspect of the show as there are things to like, namely the moments of chaos erupting or the speculation on the cause of their predicament, it’s just that these moments are too scarce when the show seems more concerned with hook-ups, love triangles and ill-placed comedic jaunts that never quite land. It’s a show that feels like a blend of Degrassi and The Purge when it should really be like a mix of Annihilation, Alive (1993) and Lord of the Flies but with the injection of the modern day teenage dynamic handled in a more grounded and tactful way that apes the comedic style of something like Lady Bird instead of something like Mean Girls.

I think I’ll push forward solely to see the resolution but I can comfortably say that it’s not the quality that’s keeping me around.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'll concede that I was wrong about the jocks vs nerds - although I still think the portrayal of high school subculture dynamics is outdated - and sure the show does improve slightly after the first few episodes but the writing and shooting is still borderline atrocious.
 
Feb 7, 2018
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I'm really enjoying it even if it's certainly not the best thing I've watched this year. I haven't watched a teenage drama in a long time, so there's also that.

The "non-adults having to create a society" concept is always interesting. And I honestly like that they've (so far, on Episode 8) mostly focused on drama and the organizing of West Ham rather than on trying to leave a lot of mystery breadcrumps (which I'm sure will ramp up as I keep watching).

Spoilers up to Episode 8:
They really made it easy for you to hate on fucking Dewey, huh. Although his execution was actually kinda sad to watch. I have little doubt that Cassandra is going to somehow come back though, if not this season, during the next one.

Out of all the characters, I'm surprised about the small amount of screentime Harry has received so far. I think he's got some of the biggest potential in the show, what with his background and his spiralling depression (as much as the whole "I had it all in highschool and now I don't" aspect isn't the most innovative thing ever).

On that, I'm kinda shocked they haven't really pursued the whole love triangle (well, square) as much as it seemed they would early on, at least up until Episode 8. I feel dirty saying this as I'm not one to ever ship characters, and kinda hate that whole culture (or find it funny), but I honestly like Allie with Harry the best if she's to be with another character. I think there's a chance for this relationship to be fun to watch, unlike with, say, Will, who is obviously the sweetest guy, but god, is he boring and his relationship with her cliche.

I'll forever find it funny seeing the Guard being essentially dressed as highschool jocks lol.

Also, do I hate the whole plot thread with Campbell and Elle.
Hopefully it gets a second season (do we know anything?).
 
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Oct 29, 2017
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So i started 13 reasons why., was always interested in it based on trailers. And while I like the mistery aspect and I think the lead is quite good., the dialogue a lot of times is very bad . Im on ep 4 atm.
My question how this show compares to 13 reasons?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So i started 13 reasons why., was always interested in it based on trailers. And while I like the mistery aspect and I think the lead is quite good., the dialogue a lot of times is very bad . Im on ep 4 atm.
My question how this show compares to 13 reasons?
Completely different shows but I personally prefer 13 reasons why
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Finished it today. Quite a good run I'd say.

And
the whole execution played out quite differently than I expected. Didn't expect them to actually go through with it and when they missed and had to do it again was some shit. Like dewey is a horrible person but damn that must suck to hear them reload again to really commit to it.