I'm not following ? my point is someone else can come along and play the same role and play it well. My example works nicely .
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Netflix cancels Daredevil
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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I'm not following ? my point is someone else can come along and play the same role and play it well. My example works nicely .
Someone can. But there's also an equal chance that the person they bring in is mediocre or a bad fit and the whole thing tanks, which is what happened with the Garfield Spider-movies.
That you totally ignored there was a guy in between Maguire and Holland indicates we shouldn't have a lot of faith in whoever next plays Daredevil or Kingpin or whoever. Maybe we should have faith in whoever plays them AFTER that next actor, lol. :p
Of course. I'm just saying give Disney a chance before you dismiss versions of characters you've liked in the past. But again watch what you wanna watch.
Gonna be a rough 2-3 years but it'll be interesting to see what Netflix recovers with between all the other deals it has pursued to bring new comic shows to Netflix.
The only comic show I watch is Lucifer, which Netflix rescued from Fox, so I'm happy as a clam but I think in 4+ years the world will look very different, TV wise, and I think it will be better with tighter, more integrated MCU comic shows on Disney+, more varied stuff on Netflix and Amazon, and whatever CW is doing. I also wonder if all the DC properties will find a more stable and richer home base other than CW.
The only comic show I watch is Lucifer, which Netflix rescued from Fox, so I'm happy as a clam but I think in 4+ years the world will look very different, TV wise, and I think it will be better with tighter, more integrated MCU comic shows on Disney+, more varied stuff on Netflix and Amazon, and whatever CW is doing. I also wonder if all the DC properties will find a more stable and richer home base other than CW.
Still not getting your point.
Norton to Ruffalo was another one. I remember the internet bitching about a recasting then the movie came out and realized that ruffalo was way better anyway.
I watched the first 2 seasons of Daredevil and the first of Jessica Jones but found them to be a bit of a slog to sit through. Like they got 13 episode orders and had to pad everything out to hit that episode count. At the very least I'd hope Disney+ kind of tidies their Marvel content up since it's going to be competing against their own Star Wars shows for attention.
Nah I thought he was passable in that version of Peter Parker. Sony made a terrible second film though
Oh god I forgot about the Millar Universe.
What is going to be the first show/movie from that?
Put the Defenders in the MCU now. If anybody can spin straw into gold and make Iron Fist look cool on camera, it's The Russos.
That's my point. That whoever comes next as Daredevil or Kingpin may not be able to measure up to Cox or D'Onofrio. But maybe whoever plays Daredevil or Kingpin AFTER those next guys might have a chance, lol. :p
They farmed off DD, LC, JJ and IF to Netflix and MarvelTV because Disney had no plans to use those characters for the foreseeable future.
Hopefully the show repaired the damage to the character that Affleck did and Disney will bring DD back in some form in the future. I doubt it will be the big screen though.
Hopefully the show repaired the damage to the character that Affleck did and Disney will bring DD back in some form in the future. I doubt it will be the big screen though.
Right but my point is the next guy could be great lol! We don't know. I'm just saying give Disney a crack at these characters before anyone dismisses that there's no way Netflix could be outdone.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I think we need to be honest here. Whoever next takes up these roles will be heavily scrutinized. A lot of people liked the Marvel Netflix cast, and a number of those people clearly think they were done dirty.
That Deadline article should really kill the speculation that this is all a power move by Disney to bring these shows to their platform. Seems clear that there are just a lot of tensions between Netflix and Marvel TV on costs, episode orders, ownership, etc. and Netflix today doesn't need Marvel in the same way they needed them five years ago.
Pretty much. This whole thing basically ended with a pissing match between Marvel and Netflix and the stories and characters are now suffering because of it. I don't want either of them to benefit off of this move - both Marvel and Netflix are in the wrong here.
I'd be on board for Iron Fist getting a Thor level makeover. Or at least making him look cool like Captain America in Winter Soldier.
Damn this is such a blow, and an ominous confirmation that none of the Netflix Marvel shows are safe anymore. But at least Daredevil went out on top.
I assume Punisher Season 2 is still a go? I so want to see if they can pull off the Suicide Run arc.
I assume Punisher Season 2 is still a go? I so want to see if they can pull off the Suicide Run arc.
The only real ninja of the Hand, the rest were a bunch of yoga teachers and students in fancy designer jackets.
Punisher S2 and JJ S3 are already in production or in post, so yeah, they're happening. Then they're dead too.
Really bums me out. Netflix Marvel was part of the reason I kept Netflix for a while. I also like it overall better than MCU. It was a helluva thing for a while, but seeing it all just end so abruptly really sucks. Hope JJ and Punisher can end things on a high note anyway.
so uuh im on episode 4 of the new season, should I even bother? does the season end as a satisfying series finale?
Kinda. The way the season ends certainly functions as an endgame, but the show also could've gone on pretty easily if they wanted it to. You can finish the season and you won't be mad about it the way most people were with the way Iron Fist S2 ended.
Yes I think so. There's one thing that could've continued on into a S4 (and even now it works as a "and the story goes on" sort of thing imo) but otherwise it does end up really working as a series finale.
I'm actually a bit more annoyed about the lack of luke cage season 3 or iron fist season 3. Daredevil ended well. It works. Neither of the other two's endings work as well.
You think disney wouldn't be playing hardball in order to get netflix to come to this decision? They've shown multiple times in the past that they're willing to burn it all to the ground to hamper the competition.
well, i think this is a mistake by netflix, even if they canceled all the other marvel series, they should've kept daredevil. The series still had plenty of places to go and to explore, while being as closely associated with the netflix brand as can be, at least to me.
Its surprising and disappointing and leaves a hole on netflix's original programming, im curious to see how they plan to replace the lack of marvel shows
Its surprising and disappointing and leaves a hole on netflix's original programming, im curious to see how they plan to replace the lack of marvel shows
Apparently, Mark Millar shows. Unless people earlier in the thread were just fucking around.
Disney has shown multiple times they're willing to destroy their own properties to spite competitors?
I'm just reading what the trades are saying, and I don't think I've seen a single one yet report that this is Disney's doing to benefit their own streaming service. All the insider reports so far have been pretty consistent that these cancellations have been Netflix's decision, and made because of issues with cost, scripts, conflicts with Marvel TV and just overall being in a different business situation than they were in 2013. For instance, their shift from licensed content to original content has been happening for a while now, which goes beyond the Marvel shows and has nothing to do with Disney.
You're saying almost literally the same thing that people said when marvel was trying to replace the X-Men with the Inhumans. People swore up and down that they were doing it for other reasons, but they shit all over that franchise... until they got fox and now they're making big comebacks. Same with the fantastic 4. They outright canceled publication of their title and now are trying to weave them back in.
Even if disney doesn't have current plans, it's obvious that they're shoring up their intellectual properties.
It's really, really getting exhausting to see Disney continuously punish their fans because of their own lack of foresight/previous deals they signed.
Which is why it makes perfect sense for disney to make unreasonable terms to keep the shows going. It helps displace the blame on netflix and the wrath of the obviously hardcore fans that support these shows. They're probably very aware of fan backlash.
Spoiler (kind of):
She's in one episode.
No, nothing in it like that. The cast has contracts for one more season, so the'll likely be getting paid out. They did the cast dirty, though. They being under contract means they couldn't go out and get another job because, until yesterday, S4 was happening with no question. Then boom, out of work actors and crew and writers who have to wait months for another job.
FYI I'm close to people involved with the show, not involved with the show directly.
I really hope he managed to do something like that. Not gonna lie I would mark the fuck out even for a random cameo.
This interview says otherwise;
Source: http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/darede...contract-includes-a-possible-movie-crossover/