You guys are cheering this, but what if Netflix just scraps the rest of the episodes? Thats like 450 people out of a job. Production, crew etc are not millionaires
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Netflix fires Kevin Spacey from 'House of Cards'
- Thread starter ZeoVGM
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For some reason I got a pretty big laugh out of this. Couldn't even explain why.
Seems I needed more context for my comment. I'm not saying throw the baby out with the bath water. However, I've read in places people standing up clapping for Netflix like they finally started listening to their conscience.
Thus what I am saying is this wasn't some high minded moralistic move on the part of Netflix. They did the bare minimum they felt they had to do to cover their asses, prevent bad press and possible blow back. This isn't me being upset at Netflix's decision either, it's an understanding that someone at the top figured this was 'best for business'. If I was in charge of Netflix, a publicly traded major corporation, I can't say I wouldn't have done the same.
Yup. The irony is cancelling this hurts a few hundred people who counted on a season of work, while Kevin Spacey is a multi-millionaire and won't really be financially effected in the short term.
I highly doubt it. Production crews are local and rely on local business. Does Netflix have another show shooting in Maryland right now? Even if they do, it's probably already staffed up.
I don't make a habit out of defending big corporations but they can't win here.
Based on their statement there's virtually no difference between "they did this because it was the right thing to do" and "they did this because it was the best thing for their business". It's just what each person reading their statement assumes individually and nothing more. We have no idea if the people who made this decision actually cared about the accusations being made or if they were just covering their own asses.
There's letting people know well ahead of time that the show is coming to an end and then there's what they'd be doing here letting everyone go with no notice.
*sigh*...you and me both. I was actually planning on making a thread on the movie whenever I got the ability to make threads
Very curious to see what happens with Spacey now. Career totally dead or back in a few years once people "forget"?
Can't they use the CGI model from Advanced Warfare and write him out of the story?
Like he plans to murder the female president and he gets shot by security. Then it's covered up he had a heart attack and the show can go on!
Like many people said, hundreds of people are getting punished by canceling the series
Like he plans to murder the female president and he gets shot by security. Then it's covered up he had a heart attack and the show can go on!
Like many people said, hundreds of people are getting punished by canceling the series
It's amazing to me that people post this stuff. There are so many things, even insignificant things, that people will withhold from others out of fear of embarrassment, and then you think that coming out as having been sexually assaulted is a piece of cake? By an a-list hollywood actor no less? Boggles the mind...
The show goes downhill pretty fast after that anyways.
You're not missimg much.
Wasn't a big portion of the final season already filmed? Plus with sudden cancellations like this, shouldn't there be some kind of severance pay for those affected? I'm sure most people working on HoC season 6 will be just fine and considering the speed at which Netflix has commited to kicking out Spacey and commenting on how there's still will to continue the show somehow (either spin-off or the main series continuing without Spacey), I'm sure they'll be pretty ok in the longer term as well, assuming a possible continuation, whatever its form, will be filmed in the same city.
It sucks but the show was going to end in 2019 anyway
Plus there will probably be spinoffs
Well, all these companies could, in fact, win. Here's how, take initial complaints from your staff seriously and fire the offenders then and there. If Netflix had done this they'd have dropped Spacey before these new allegations came to light and Netflix would be sitting back going "yep, and we didn't tolerate that shit when he tried it on our turf" and everyone else would be asking why the other studios let him continue working and only Netflix had the balls to can him.
But you're totally correct in the sense that once a studio ignores current staff complaints against a star, essentially becoming complicit in that star's activities, that yes, there's no winning for them once they finally do the right thing.
This was a "business" move by Netflix as they already had reports of him doing things to cast on set that they said was "handled" yet they continued working with Spacey.
It was too big to bury with the momentum the Weinstein story gave it.
It was too big to bury with the momentum the Weinstein story gave it.
He will be in "rehab", he will be back in 2 or 3 years.
First in some indies movies, and then in some mayor roles again
And as long as they place all young men under 25 around his vicinity in some sort of super secret facility, this might work, too!
He's had a good innings. If he knows what's good for him, he'll quietly retire.
Well...
- CNN
It sounds like the people coming forward with these allegations were afraid to speak up because of Spacey's position. One person claims to have spoken to a supervisor but we don't know if that supervisor worked for Netflix. Even if they did, who knows if they actually reported the situation any further up the ladder. You might assume that Netflix is lying about not being aware of Spacey's conduct but that just goes back to my point about this being a no win situation for them in the eyes of some people. Your sarcasm is appreciated though.
The "Supervisor" for a Set Production Assistant would be a 2nd Assistant Director. They are the next step up from PA themselves. Don't get paid much more, and also don't ultimately have that much power until they ascend higher. I can very easily see why they wouldn't want to bring it up with anyone, that would be putting their own job in jeopardy too.
Mercy kill the show now, he's so central to how the show operates I can't see it working, especially considering how downhill the show's writing has been going for the last three seasons.
RIP to Spacey's career, you did this to yourself.
RIP to Spacey's career, you did this to yourself.
Netflix taking out the trash on one of its most popular shows, nice quick no BS response. Love it.
Finally something that beats Chinatown.
Does anyone think it would be easier to just recast Frank?
I think I would prefer that than to kill him offscreen or just end the series now. Spacey's performance of Underwood was great, but he's also a fourth wall breaking character, so he could just as easily show up looking totally different and call it out, and that would be that.
IIRC production had barely started. And no, they don't look after the crew. 99% of them will be contractors. And TV season has already started so most local productions will have already been staffed up (plus Maryland isn't exactly LA or Vancouver) so if it's cancelled they could potentially be unemployed for 6+ months. They can't just sit around forever waiting for a potentially spinoff or continuation to come and save them, even then the turnaround on new scripts will be months.
I mean David Lynch didn't have too much trouble turning major characters into light bulb monsters and stuff. Why not go a Avant garde with it?
Yeah.
Frank needs to have his demise from the original series, and it needs to be executed faithfully, not rushed off-screen. Frank also being someone that breaks the fourth wall could make for some great moments when a different actor suddenly shows up.
Frank catches a bad case of leperosy and now walks around in a rubber Nixon mask and communicates almost entirely through angry tweets. Bam, shows topical again
Anyone saying "i'm glad they're keeping the show on for the crew"... no. Just no.
They'll go on to do other, maybe even better things. The show being cancelled wouldn't be the end of their lives. Keeping shit shows in production is not a kindness.
They'll go on to do other, maybe even better things. The show being cancelled wouldn't be the end of their lives. Keeping shit shows in production is not a kindness.