What else are we supposed to go by, then? Netflix says not enough people watched and then we have people in this thread and on Facebook saying they never even heard of the show.Until Netflix begins releasing actual numbers we can't just blindly accept "bad numbers". We have 0 baseline for what let's a show live or die
I'd remove Breaking Bad and Mad Men, but yes, The Wire and The Sopranos are basically the pinnacle of TV.Your standards for TV are insane then. I'm assuming that you basically only like stuff like The Wire, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, and Mad Men.
Those shows are considered the best that have ever been made. To suggest that anything less than them is liquid shit is just crazy, because while Netflix hasn't out out anything on par with them yet, there is some damn fine TV in there, only a notch or two behind the best of the best.
Then, you clearly don't watch enough.
- Derry Girls
- Crashing
- Lovesick
- Mindhunter
- ODAAT
- Maniac
- The Crown
- GLOW
- American Vandal
- Russian Doll
- Bojack Horseman
I'd remove Breaking Bad and Mad Men, but yes, The Wire and The Sopranos are basically the pinnacle of TV.
Netflix demands the results but doesn't want to put in the work.Netflix is weird. Have they commented about advertising before? It almost seems like a majority of these shows get zero advertising budget outside of the platform itself and they rely solely on social media and word of mouth.
And unless they "go viral" don't get much in the way of post release support.
"Your stories and representation are important! We must continue to find ways to tell these stories! ...but not this story, we aren't going to continue telling this one."
Shit gets canceled all the time, it doesn't mean they don't care about representation and Netflix's immense backlog is proof of their commitment."Your stories and representation are important! We must continue to find ways to tell these stories! ...but not this story, we aren't going to continue telling this one."
It's extremely tone deaf. Don't talk about how committed you are to representation in the context of cancelling a show that was celebrated for its representation. Especially since they barely ever promoted the show.
All of those are shit except for Mindhunter, I forgot that was a Netflix show so I'll give you that. Though even that isn't what I'd call amazing, so tough luck.Then, you clearly don't watch enough.
- Derry Girls
- Crashing
- Lovesick
- Mindhunter
- ODAAT
- Maniac
- The Crown
- GLOW
- American Vandal
- Russian Doll
- Bojack Horseman
I don't think I can answer that properly. If I were to agree that "the best of Netflix isn't THAT far behind The Wire and The Sopranos", I would then be essentially saying that those shows are shit, seeing as the best Netflix has is hot garbage.Okay, so does it make sense to you to call anything less than the pinnacle of TV "liquid shit?" Because the best of Netflix isn't THAT far behind The Wire and The Sopranos
Live studio laughter/laugh tracks (I understand this show doesn't use a laugh track) is an instant turnoff for me and has historically been a good indicator of whether or not I'll like a show. Even as a kid I didn't like it. Saying "get over it" is not useful in trying to get people to watch the show.
I can and do feel bad for the fans and appreciate the work, heart and representation that went into the show while also not finding what I'm seeing enjoyable enough to invest my time in. This goes for any show, movie, album, video game, etc...
Why are you so defensive? I think it's time to go outside for a bit.
Was expecting more discussion about this show on this forum other than a single other thread spanning two pages of discussion.
This was a problem for all the people I told about the show. Sitcoms are just not for everyone and unfortunately the writing was just not enough to make up for that.Yeah this seemed like it should be a show if not beloved/championed by the forum, at least got some eyeballs/a chance here due to its topical nature and representation. I guess a lot of the struggle is getting people in the door seeing as how many people seem to not even know what this show is until it got cancelled.
A lot of people also seem stuck on it being a sitcom, laugh track, multi-cam, etc.
:shrugs: not sure what can be done about the latter if thats their barrier of entry
Go ahead and watch if you're interested. The final season ends very well and works fine as a series finale. There's a bit of a cliffhanger, but nothing major.WOW! I've never seen an episode, but I was surprised when I saw it on several lists of top shows on Netflix. Guess I won't watch it now
Guess it'll be my wife and my next show after we finish Fuller House (groan). My wife recalls the original show from the eighties (?). And she's a sucker for nostalgia so I'm sure she'll be all about itGo ahead and watch if you're interested. The final season ends very well and works fine as a series finale. There's a bit of a cliffhanger, but nothing major.
"Your stories and representation are important! We must continue to find ways to tell these stories! ...but not this story, we aren't going to continue telling this one."
It's extremely tone deaf. Don't talk about how committed you are to representation in the context of cancelling a show that was celebrated for its representation. Especially since they barely ever promoted the show.
I know there's been a few vague tweets since these ones. Hopefully someone else picks it up. Preferably not another subscription service though
ONE DAY AT A TIME DIED SO THAT SEX EDUCATION AND DERRY GIRLS COULD LIVE.