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signal

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Oct 28, 2017
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German forum posters, is Stuttgart a boring place to live (in general, ignoring subjective tastes and where I'm coming from and etc.)? May have a job offer there soon and have zero knowledge about the area. Seems like a 'busy with work' population.
Dear blog, I'm moving in two weeks 🇩🇪
 

hobblygobbly

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dear blog, I'm moving in two weeks 🇩🇪
Good luck! If you have any questions we can help. I am also in Stuttgart, but I am not so familiar with it like a local is, as I only moved here couple of months ago (I am from a other part of Germany). There's a lot to see and do around the whole Stuttgart region, with summer fast approaching, towns like Schwäbisch Hall are great getaways for a weekend if you interested in that. If you like architecture and history I think you will like this town.

Also if you like wine, this is a wine growing region with very well known wines, and there are also these wine pubs/taverns usually owned by the wine makers themselves with all you can eat and drink style buffet called Besenwirtschaften.

Also you are here just in time for the BUGA garden show, it takes place primarily in Heilbronn as the chosen city this year (like 50km away from Stuttgart) where the Neckar river runs through, starting soon and runs through rest of spring and summer with lots of outdoor/summer activities.

Also be prepared for the Schwäbisch dialekt... it's very difficult (for Germans as well), the Schwäbisch even tell time differently from the standard way...

"Wir können alles. Außer Hochdeutsch"
 

signal

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Good luck! If you have any questions we can help. I am also in Stuttgart, but I am not so familiar with it like a local is, as I only moved here couple of months ago (I am from a other part of Germany). There's a lot to see and do around the whole Stuttgart region, with summer fast approaching, towns like Schwäbisch Hall are great getaways for a weekend if you interested in that. If you like architecture and history I think you will like this town.

Also if you like wine, this is a wine growing region with very well known wines, and there are also these wine pubs/taverns usually owned by the wine makers themselves with all you can eat and drink style buffet called Besenwirtschaften.

Also you are here just in time for the BUGA garden show, it takes place primarily in Heilbronn as the chosen city this year (like 50km away from Stuttgart) where the Neckar river runs through, starting soon and runs through rest of spring and summer with lots of outdoor/summer activities.

Also be prepared for the Schwäbisch dialekt... it's very difficult (for Germans as well), the Schwäbisch even tell time differently from the standard way...

"Wir können alles. Außer Hochdeutsch"
Thanks! And I won't bug the thread with questions, will just google reddit recommendations on banks and German MVNOs and such in the next while.

I think my initial questioning was just due to a lack of information. Looking things up further, it seems quite nice, though I'll miss having a 40 minute train ride to a Tokyo sized city. Only concern right now is housing since the area seems a bit expensive, though my boss found some OK things on immobilienscout24 maybe. Not into the idea of maybe 35+% of my net salary for housing again though.
 

BlueOdin

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Oct 26, 2017
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Don't know where in Stuttgart you'll work but the S-Bahnen are alright-ish. Prone to delays at probably one huge one a month. Can only talk for smaller cities for one side but Waiblingen and Fellbach have at least two lines stopping there + Regionalexpress in the former and are okay. Might be a bit cheaper than a flat in Stuttgart.

Hope you enjoy your time here.
 

signal

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Don't know where in Stuttgart you'll work but the S-Bahnen are alright-ish. Prone to delays at probably one huge one a month. Can only talk for smaller cities for one side but Waiblingen and Fellbach have at least two lines stopping there + Regionalexpress in the former and are okay. Might be a bit cheaper than a flat in Stuttgart.

Hope you enjoy your time here.
Near the university so more to the South than those places I think, though depending on transportation Fellbach is maybe OK. Ideally somewhere between the city centre and University though, depending on price.

 

signal

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There might be something around the Schwabstraße or Feuerbach station though Schwabstraße - Universität is the worst part of the train ride.

You’re going to work at the Frauenhofer Institute?
Alright, will keep them in mind to check, and lol why worst part of the train ride? Was surprised the s-bahn is only like 20min between the University area and the city centre though, thought it would be longer. And will be doing some joint research at an institute that's part of the Hochschule der Medien.
 

BlueOdin

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Alright, will keep them in mind to check, and lol why worst part of the train ride? Was surprised the s-bahn is only like 20min between the University area and the city centre though, thought it would be longer. And will be doing some joint research at an institute that's part of the Hochschule der Medien.
Schwabstraße - Universität is 5 minutes of constant driving in a tunnel. Had to do it daily for two semesters and it was just the worst for me after a while. Dreadful. University to Stadtmitte is ~10 minutes.

Hochschule der Medien? That’s where I’m studying. 😮
 

signal

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Schwabstraße - Universität is 5 minutes of constant driving in a tunnel. Had to do it daily for two semesters and it was just the worst for me after a while. Dreadful. University to Stadtmitte is ~10 minutes.

Hochschule der Medien? That’s where I’m studying. 😮
Speedy. But still even in worst case scenario I could handle 5 minutes. I'm more of a walker / biker though so that could work depending on the area.

And damn, time to stalk.
 

Donos

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Nov 15, 2017
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But there is Döner Kebab. Although the Döner in Stuttgart is a far cry from Döner in Berlin (and 1.50 € more expensive).
 

BlueOdin

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Speedy. But still even in worst case scenario I could handle 5 minutes. I'm more of a walker / biker though so that could work depending on the area.

And damn, time to stalk.
Since you lived in Japan are you per chance the person one of my profs told me about that is helping with building an anime/manga database for libraries or something similar like that?
 

crazillo

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Dear blog, I'm moving in two weeks 🇩🇪
German here, I also live in Stuttgart doing my PhD, if anyone needs some tips or wants to play something on Xbox or Switch I'm always in :) Am from a different region in Germany though. Stuttgart has a lot of pro's and con's. It's got a lot of theatre, musical and opera choices and many cultural events. I love the valley and all of the viewpoints in many places of the city. The living standard is pretty high as the region is economically well-off with Porsche, Bosch and Daimler all from around here. You have to get used to Swabians (local folks here) though, they can be very... special. They end up being good and trustful friends once you get to know them, but man it can take tiiiiime. Stuttgart also has a lot of issues with traffic and air pollution and it's a very costly place to rent for German standards. On the bright side, the tram and bus system is really good and prices just went down.
 

signal

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Quaint https://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/77586337#/

German here, I also live in Stuttgart doing my PhD, if anyone needs some tips or wants to play something on Xbox or Switch I'm always in :) Am from a different region in Germany though. Stuttgart has a lot of pro's and con's. It's got a lot of theatre, musical and opera choices and many cultural events. I love the valley and all of the viewpoints in many places of the city. The living standard is pretty high as the region is economically well-off with Porsche, Bosch and Daimler all from around here. You have to get used to Swabians (local folks here) though, they can be very... special. They end up being good and trustful friends once you get to know them, but man it can take tiiiiime. Stuttgart also has a lot of issues with traffic and air pollution and it's a very costly place to rent for German standards. On the bright side, the tram and bus system is really good and prices just went down.
Hell yeah xbox meetup. 360 only. I heard about the pollution but that it's maybe gotten a bit better lately.

I think pros and cons (or at least ones I care) about tend to change over time. I guess at first you want there to be stuff to do and places to go and things to see but eventually as long as daily needs are met, those things to do can be in other cities as long as the transportation is easy, which it seems to be. Kind of similar to my situation now where living outside Tokyo is good and bad and the small size used to annoy me more but taking a train somewhere bigger is easy enough so whatever.
 

crazillo

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Quaint https://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/77586337#/


Hell yeah xbox meetup. 360 only. I heard about the pollution but that it's maybe gotten a bit better lately.

I think pros and cons (or at least ones I care) about tend to change over time. I guess at first you want there to be stuff to do and places to go and things to see but eventually as long as daily needs are met, those things to do can be in other cities as long as the transportation is easy, which it seems to be. Kind of similar to my situation now where living outside Tokyo is good and bad and the small size used to annoy me more but taking a train somewhere bigger is easy enough so whatever.
I've lived my fair share in East Asia, too. Mostly China though. A very close friend who is also on ERA was in Tokyo for a year and I was happy to have the opportunity to visit him there once. Spending new year in Kyoto was among the best things I ever did: ) Feel free to contact anytime.

Also, I feel it's always more about the people than the sites. You can be very happy in an ugly city and you can be very lonely in a beautiful romantic old town-picturesque city. Hope your transition will be just fine :)
 

mnz

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Hm, daran dachte ich, aber "einen Schlag andeuten" und "to telegraph a punch" sind für mich irgendwie verschieden. Das Erste impliziert, für mich, Absicht. Dachte noch an "abzeichnen", aber passt auch nur unschön.
 

Sheldon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Gibt es eine brauchbare Übersetzung für diese Verwendung von "to telegraph"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegraphing_(sports)

Beispiele:
"The mediator telegraphed his punches, and we were prepared with a strong counter argument."
"The bank has been telegraphing the move to investors for months."
Hmmm, sinngemäß gibt es reichlich Möglichkeiten das zu übersetzen: durchblicken / voraussehen / erahnen lassen, offensichtlich machen, signalisieren, anzeigen, etc.

Allerdings fällt mir keine Ein-Wort-Lösung ein, bei der die Kampfsport/Faustschlag-Metapher erhalten bliebe. Du könntest schreiben, dass ein Boxer seine nächste Aktion ankündigt oder verrät, aber die Formulierung lässt sich nur sperrig in einen fremden Kontext retten.

Ist ja auch nicht tragisch, wenn wir mal einen martialischen Vergleich weniger im Vokabular haben.
 

BlueOdin

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Oct 26, 2017
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Ich würde versuchen die 1:1 Übersetzung durchzusetzen: telegrafieren

Der einzig richtige und sinnvolle Weg.
 

Sheldon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nimm lieber eine vertraute deutsche Redensart und bieg sie dir zurecht.

"Der Vermittler hat mit dem Zaunpfahl gewunken, aber wir hatten eine tolle Gartenparty vorbereitet."
"Die Bank hat mit dem Zaunpfahl gewunken und aufmerksame Investoren haben jetzt einen Zaunkönig in der Hand statt eine Taube auf dem Dach."

Total natürlich und selbsterklärend.
 

mnz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hmmm, sinngemäß gibt es reichlich Möglichkeiten das zu übersetzen: durchblicken / voraussehen / erahnen lassen, offensichtlich machen, signalisieren, anzeigen, etc.

Allerdings fällt mir keine Ein-Wort-Lösung ein, bei der die Kampfsport/Faustschlag-Metapher erhalten bliebe. Du könntest schreiben, dass ein Boxer seine nächste Aktion ankündigt oder verrät, aber die Formulierung lässt sich nur sperrig in einen fremden Kontext retten.

Ist ja auch nicht tragisch, wenn wir mal einen martialischen Vergleich weniger im Vokabular haben.
Ja danke, so muss es wohl laufen. Es ergab sich übrigens aus einer Sekiro-Diskussion...

Und naja, wenigstens haben wir das Wort "Schlachtfest".
 

Sheldon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ja danke, so muss es wohl laufen. Es ergab sich übrigens aus einer Sekiro-Diskussion...

Und naja, wenigstens haben wir das Wort "Schlachtfest".
Mir ging es mal ähnlich, als ich die deutsche Entsprechung zum "tell" aus der Pokersprache suchte. "Tick" oder "Marotte" ist nah dran, aber auch nicht deckungsgleich.

Hab mich schlussendlich damit getröstet, dass der Übersetzer von Edgar Allan Poes "The Telltale Heart" auch keine passendere Lösung fand als "Das verräterische Herz".
 

Donos

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Nov 15, 2017
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Hiebe gegen den Deutschen Computerspielpreis:

"So ein richtiges Killerspiel mal? Oder ganz klassisch YouPorn?" Die Gala zum Computerspielpreis 2019 war voller totgeglaubter Klischees. So lassen Politik und Gamesbranche nicht mal die Gewinner gut aussehen.
https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/games/deutscher-computerspielpreis-2019-eine-branche-erniedrigt-sich-selbst-a-1262105.html

In Berlin sind die besten Videospiele des Jahres ausgezeichnet worden. Der Hauptpreis ging an das Adventure "Trüberbrook", das ins Deutschland der Sechzigerjahre entführt. Das erzählt viel über die Branche.
https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/games/deutscher-computerspielpreis-das-sind-die-gewinner-2019-a-1261929.html
 

Donos

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Den Schuss gegen Trüberbrook kapier ich trotzdem nicht.
Ist meiner Meinung nach weniger gegen die Quali des Spiels an sich und mehr allgemein, dass die deutsche Gaming Industry keine "Blockbuster" wie die Amis, Japaner und Co. mehr haben, seit Crytek seinen "Niedergang" hatte. Also ein Game aller God of War, Breath of Wild etc. bzw. ähnliches AAA Material, was in aller Munde ist und international GOTYs abräumt. Steht aber auch im Text, dass dafür einfach nicht das Funding/ adäquater Publisher da ist.

Adventures ala Trüberbrook sind nicht unbedingt massentauglich, unabhängig von der Qualität. Da reissen mittlerweile nurnoch Quantic Dreams games mit high end optic was raus.
 

Sheldon

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Im Artikel selbst wird Trüberbook fair behandelt, aber der zitierte Abschnitt liest sich als meinte es ein Kultur-Reporter absichtlich gemein mit einem neuen Medium: "Der Hauptpreis ging an die Serie Babylon Berlin, die ins Deutschland vor hundert Jahren entführt. Das sagt viel über die Branche."