New coloured Dualsense (purple/pink/blue) introduce stronger springs for triggers

[stryke]

Teardown by TronicsFix demonstrate the new coloured Dualsenses have thicker springs, going from 0.25mm in the old controllers to 0.3mm.

There's also a change to the analogue sticks, but it's unclear whether it's inconsequential/cosmetic or anything to do with addressing stick drift.

The all green analogue sticks is in the latest models.

I would assume these changes will eventually make it's way to the white, black and red models (it's probably already happened) but how you'd distinguish it from the old models on the box I wouldn't know.

 

[Diarrhea Day-Lewis]

Damn guess I have to get one asap

 

[Deleted member 11038]

Nice youtube clickbait title

 

[TheRealTalker]

Interesting. I wonder if any newly manufactured white default, red and black DualSenses will also have those changes?

 

[smcc94x]

Absolutely necessary. The springs in the original dualsense are easily broken in my experience (despite being gentle with my controllers).

 

[TransEuropaExpress]

Absolutely necessary. The springs in the original dualsense are easily broken in my experience (despite being gentle with my controllers).

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Springs in both triggers broke for me within...four months? After a year I had massive stick drift. Sony gladly replaced my controller last month, no questions asked, so that's cool but still. I baby my electronics as well, whenever I'm not actively using the controller it goes into a drawer etc.

I love the actual controller but the build quality is the worst out of any controller I've owned.

 

[jett]

But it's still the same shit-ass design they've been using since the PS3.

 

[ghostcrew]

Oh really… 🤔

My springs have been ok so far but always a little nervous! Been after an Era purple one (I swore by my purple DualShock 4… a company man!) so might have to accelerate that purchase.

 

[PepperedHam]

Well my purple analog stick squeaks and grinds like a MFer after extended use so it sucks in that regard anyway. But glad to see they are tweaking things.

 

[Glasfrut]

Will have to pick one up just in case then. I think one of mine has some stick drift but it's slight.

 

[WhtR88t]

Well my purple analog stick squeaks and grinds like a MFer after extended use so it sucks in that regard anyway. But glad to see they are tweaking things.

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Yeah, my purple's sticks kind of feel worse than my 2 launch controllers. Not as smooth. Was considering doing a repair with it.

 

[JusDoIt]

I still got a stock white and black controller that are holding up perfectly, but good to know if they ever do break.

 

[MZZ]

I only got the purple one from new batch of colors and it does feel different in material from all the other ones as well. The stick material is definitely different and its not because my other ones are worn.

Unfortunately there is something wrong with the mold feeling like its not lined up properly

 

[SixelAlexiS]

Did they fixed the "clicky" feel of the stick? I have that on the left stick, it's total trash, can't believe how an huge step back is compared to DS4 or Xbox One controllers. Right stick is decent but stick "grainy" compared to the other pads.

I'll just tolerate it since in games I played I mostly pushed it forward but playing a racing game is just dreadful.

No idea how ppl call it best controller ever with such low quality sticks.

 

[TheRealTalker]

But it's still the same shit-ass design they've been using since the PS3.

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symmetrical sticks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[th1nk]

I think the R1 button on both of my white DualSense controllers is getting very mushy from playing Elden Ring, but I guess this will not help. 😔

 

[jett]

symmetrical sticks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Lol wat

I'm talking about the feeble spring design they use on their triggers.

 

[CloseTalker]

Damn guess I have to get one asap

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Why would you do that if your controller works fine?

 

[Diarrhea Day-Lewis]

Why would you do that if your controller works fine?

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Buy one because I want it and I only have 2 and love playing local 4 player coop games like gang beast, Towerfall, etc with family and friends?

 

[Praedyth]

I guess my third will be a purple one then, just need the both I have to break first.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Lol wat

I'm talking about the feeble spring design they use on their triggers.

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oh lol

The triggers for the ds3 are different then the ds4 and the dualsense so I assumed you meant the stick positions

 

[nihilence]

Maybe by the time we get a PS5 the springs in packs in will be upgraded too.

Does this change the feel much?

 

[Duxxy3]

It's still crazy to me that they're still using those crappy springs.

 

[Plasma]

Had the spring go on one of my triggers for my first controller but my second one has been ok so far. Good to see they're making the build quality a bit better because they were taking the piss a bit charging so much for a controller and putting in springs that snap so easily.

 

[Euler007]

I was going to get the purple anyways, guess I will try to use it more than my other colors in my rotation.

 

[J_ToSaveTheDay]

So my Black and Red ones don't have this? :(

Oh well, they're doing fine for now but I guess it's kinda reassuring that they'll be theoretically a bit sturdier if I find myself having to replace them.

 

[AJUK]

Damn just remembered I bought a purple one. I guess it can stay in the box for now.

 

[OrangeNova]

So my Black and Red ones don't have this? :(

Oh well, they're doing fine for now but I guess it's kinda reassuring that they'll be theoretically a bit sturdier if I find myself having to replace them.

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Probably newer produced ones have it, but if you bought them when they were released probably not.

However, I'd imagine that most people won't encounter the spring dying in the regular life cycle of their controllers.

 

[JakeNoseIt]

still need a slightly smaller controller for my dumb baby hands

 

[Unaha-Closp]

My launch Dualsense's left analogue stick has decided to input up even when in the neutral position. So Aloy now wants to really get in the face of everyone before I can click triangle or V goes walking down an alley on her own. Worst is in the floating marker all games have these days, oh there it goes to the top of the screen on its own. I haven't even used it all that much. Nothing like you would expect before your controller starts breaking. So I guess I'm in the market for a new controller, pink it is. Maybe, I'll keep using this one until it drives me to distractions too often, ridiculous that it's broken with little use.

 

[Jakartalado]

Thank God! I've already switched 4 Dual Sense controllers due to this crappy spring. Luckily all of them were under the 1 year warranty.

 

[LastNac]

When d you think the white ones will get it?

 

[J_ToSaveTheDay]

Probably newer produced ones have it, but if you bought them when they were released probably not.

However, I'd imagine that most people won't encounter the spring dying in the regular life cycle of their controllers.

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Yeah, agreed, it's a distant worry in my mind. I did buy my red one right at its launch but actually didn't buy my black one until just before the new colors dropped.

When d you think the white ones will get it?

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Obviously this is speculation and isn't trustworthy enough to make an informed purchase decision, but I'd imagine the entire Dualsense manufacturing process is using the new internals as its basis and this is actually a color-agnostic change in reality. It just so happens that it was discovered first with the new controllers, being that they are a new model and have attention right now.

That said, unless Sony has classified the internal changes with a slight tweak of the model number that consumers can use to identify the more newly-manufactured controllers (or we determine a reliable manufacturer date to go by), it's definitely not a guarantee that you ensure you're getting the most updated internals by just going to the store and buying off the shelf right now.

 

[Zebesian-X]

My left stick's drifting on my first Dualsense and the x button is sticky on the second… hope they keep improving the build quality. It's a great controller when it's functional

 

[Duxxy3]

oh lol

The triggers for the ds3 are different then the ds4 and the dualsense so I assumed you meant the stick positions

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Actually they're really not. The same spring idea is used for the DS3, DS4 and Dualsense. Even with the feedback system in the dualsense it still uses the same spring design as the DS3. It is much less robust than Microsoft's solution(s) and it confuses me to this day why they continue to use it.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Actually they're really not. The same spring idea is used for the DS3, DS4 and Dualsense. Even with the feedback system in the dualsense it still uses the same spring design as the DS3. It is much less robust than Microsoft's solution(s) and it confuses me to this day why they continue to use it.

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I meant the triggers buttons themselves not the springs. May bad I read posts differently.

 

[LastNac]

Yeah, agreed, it's a distant worry in my mind. I did buy my red one right at its launch but actually didn't buy my black one until just before the new colors dropped.



Obviously this is speculation and isn't trustworthy enough to make an informed purchase decision, but I'd imagine the entire Dualsense manufacturing process is using the new internals as its basis and this is actually a color-agnostic change in reality. It just so happens that it was discovered first with the new controllers, being that they are a new model and have attention right now.

That said, unless Sony has classified the internal changes with a slight tweak of the model number that consumers can use to identify the more newly-manufactured controllers (or we determine a reliable manufacturer date to go by), it's definitely not a guarantee that you ensure you're getting the most updated internals by just going to the store and buying off the shelf right now.

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You'd be surprised by how a small adjustment can change things.

 

[KingK]

Oh, nice. A spring broke on my original controller from launch. It was still in the 1 year warranty so I got a free replacement at least.

I have a second controller that's been fine for a year and a half now at least.

But my gf wanted to get the blue one, so this is good to know.

 

[BranCrackr]

My launch day controller is still going strong, but glad to hear this before considering a 2nd one.

 

[HardRojo]

I watched the vid and went to a store yesterday to grab a purple one. Now I have 4 DualSense controllers and 4 Series X controllers lol, I gotta stop buying them.
I did get a pack of springs a few months ago because one broke on the controller that came with my PS5, so if it happens again at least I'll have some replacement parts. Wish I hadn't bought a black DualSense until it was confirmed that they have improved the springs on those too :/

 

[Jacknapes]

Nice to know they've upgraded the springs.

My original DualSense's spring broke in the right trigger whilst playing Valhalla around the holidays 2020. Had it repaired and a replacement sent out. It's still in the box it came back in, i've been using the spare one i bought at launch since with no issues. Haptics are off, however i'm thinking of using them again for GT7.

 

[Bold One]

Did they fix the stick drift?

My blue dualsense has a squishy square button. And it's only 2 weeks old.

The new controllers build quality is shocking.

 

[LightKiosk]

How long until these pop up as replaceable parts to buy? Nothing has happened to my triggers yet, but I'd happily buy a pack for $5 and replace them to be safe.

 

[Dolce]

Lol wat

I'm talking about the feeble spring design they use on their triggers.

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Did the DS3 and 4 have trigger failure rates at the level of the Dualsense? It at least seems like the Dualsense is a lot more sensitive to it. I know most of the DS3 I saw with issues tended to be other things.

 

[jett]

Did the DS3 and 4 have trigger failure rates at the level of the Dualsense? It at least seems like the Dualsense is a lot more sensitive to it. I know most of the DS3 I saw with issues tended to be other things.

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Well personally I have two DS3 controllers with broken trigger springs. I guess one is technically a sixaxis.

 

[Dolce]

Well personally I have two DS3 controllers with broken trigger springs. I guess one is technically a sixaxis.

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Yeah, my sixaxis broke but it was the face buttons. I ended up with a DS3, which was made in Japan instead, and it lasted about a decade. But I heard they shifted back to made in China with DS3 and the quality suffered. And DS4 and Dualsense are all made in China.

 

[DarrenM]

My controller has been fine since launch, but the triggers are always something I worry about, especially now I'm out of warranty.

I've read it's an easy enough fix, but it's not something that should be needed. I've never had to repair a controller on any of my consoles. Out of curiosity, how much does Sony charge to repair broken triggers on the Dual Sense?

 

[Woozy]

So does this mean the new controllers have stronger trigger effects?

 

[Eidan]

Oh cool. I literally just bought one of the pink controllers.

 

[mrmickfran]

Idk if it's because I'm already super used to my launch Dualsense but I got a purple one like 2 weeks ago and it feels quite different.