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New PlayStation Job Implies Acquistion/s Are Underway
- Thread starter Sillegamer
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I'll probably be in the minority here but Outside of maybe 3-4 studios, I'd prefer Sony to invest on expanding teams as opposed to outside entities. Just imagine SSM with another team, building a Wolverine game using the same engine they made GOW with?
Collectively as gamers we'd be like
Collectively as gamers we'd be like
I'll probably be in the minority here but Outside of maybe 3-4 studios, I'd prefer Sony to invest on expanding teams as opposed to outside entities. Just imagine SSM with another team, building a Wolverine game using the same engine they made GOW with?
Collectively as gamers we'd be like
They are doing that.
They are expanding the current studios and open new ones
It's funny how the narrative tends to suggest that Sony snatches these kind of games, that supposedly would be released on multiple platforms otherwise, and be exactly the same without their funding.
Yup, be thankful you have Bloodborne.
Nobody is de facto exclusive these days.
Just about everyone Sony has bought has been someone who already worked almost exclusively with the company, anyway.
I do know that. Every game is improved when people have options for how and where they want to play it.
It's still a worse game by being exclusive though. Bloodborne would be a better game if it was available on more platforms. The PlayStation hardware is a detriment to that game. It was never even updated with Pro support.
I have been outspoken against Microsoft acquisitions too - but at least those games are not locked to a single platform with limited options and a limited shelf-life.
My preference is for all games to be as widely available as possible, where technically feasible - not just my platform of choice.
I would rather see companies compete on the strength of their platform and the hardware options that they offer, than which content they can lock up by throwing money around.
You are mad about a company funding games and releasing them only in their platform? What
I doubt they're looking to spend anywhere close to what Bungie would cost though. Probably talking in the billions to fully acquire them.
The type of games a platform holder is willing to publish, is not the same as what a 3rd party will, due to different business models. You have no idea how a game fully funded and published by Sony would turn out without Sony.
As has been said, Bloodborne wouldn't exist, or at least be what it is, without the deal. So, it's pointless to say the exclusivity hurts it, as you wouln't have it at all, or the same game, without it. That being said, it's unfortunate it never got a Pro patch, but then again, neither did Dark Souls 3.* DS3 also has performance issues on consoles, and to my knowledge it suffers from frame-pacing on PC as well.
In a perfect world there would be no 3rd party exclusives, outside of situations like Bloodborne, Bayonetta, Sunset Overdrive and Spider-Man, and the platformer holders would build studios of their own and acquire only those who are already strongly linked with them. Grabbing multiplatform studios is just a power move, that benefits the platform holder by patching their shortcomings. You would still get games from those studios for PC without the acquisitions.
* EDIT: Actually, I was wrong. DS3 did get a minor Pro patch:
God of War GAAS: Blade of Chaos coming 3 months after launch in the all new Ragnarok Season Pass
That secret studio that they haven't officially announced its from scratch. Pixel Opus was a built studio as well iirc. It's Microsoft this gen who didn't build new ones and just acquired studios I believe. Of course Sony
Maybe you don't understand or don't want
No sony no bloodborne like no nintendo no bayonetta
That's certainly a valid point, as Sony do seem to have different priorities - so the games themselves may be different under Sony's direction. But that's something which cannot really be known.
What I'm saying is that it would be better for players if they had the choice to play games where and how they wanted to, rather than having them locked down to a single platform.
I'm not "mad" about anything. I'm saying that a game like Bloodborne is made worse by being a PlayStation exclusive.
I'm not talking about the business of how the game was funded, and whether Bloodborne would even exist if not for Sony's involvement.
I'm saying that the current state of Bloodborne is worse-off by being exclusive to that hardware. It has a lot of technical issues and restrictions resulting from that exclusivity, and even though it is exclusive, they didn't care enough to update the game with support for their PS4 Pro hardware.
It does not have frame-pacing issues on PC.
The thread is not closed yet? It suggests something is really happening otherwise Zhuge would have closed the thread! Take Two on the table boys!
In a perfect world sure, but Sony do those games to sell hardware, which sells services, which fund more games. So if Sony wasn't focused on selling PlayStations they'd very likely not do the same games either, because well, there's a lot more ways to make money from individual games, which don't really mesh well with the games they usually fund. You don't really get 1 without the other and Sony don't really owe those on other platforms anything. Same for Nintendo or MS (though their platform is Xbox and PC, so different priority to the other 2).
I'm not saying that they do. I'm saying that, from a player's perspective, games are worse when they're exclusive to a single platform - and buying up studios to deprive other platforms of their games should not be celebrated.
But not always, as some games are just too risky for a standard 3rd party publisher to touch, especially without a lot of additional ways to get money out of players, leading to a worst game. I agree buying or paying with the sole reason to deny others shouldn't be celebrated though, buy studios who are on their last legs or those who already wotk mostly on exclusives for them, I'm fine with, 1 is better than the alternative of them going under and the other is protecting an investment and has minimumal impact on other players on other platforms.
A little off-topic here.
If we're talking non-dev studio acquisitions, I'm surprised that no one has acquired Discord yet, particularly Google.
Just something random that I was thinking about.
If we're talking non-dev studio acquisitions, I'm surprised that no one has acquired Discord yet, particularly Google.
Just something random that I was thinking about.
i believe that sony should just focus on expanding their current studios to increase exclusive output, the fact that naughty dog release like two games per generation is a bit ridiculous. It would be a cool as fuck for them expand into different generes and do what Gurrriella is doing by trying to release a game every 2-3 years. This of course applies to all their studios.
The only studio i think they can aquire is bluepoint, homereque, maybe remedy.
The only studio i think they can aquire is bluepoint, homereque, maybe remedy.
I doubt Kojima wants to be bought tbh, seems like he wants to be independant and make multiplats
Not when does games would not be funded otherwise.
Who is funding single player linear games this days? Racing games? AAA VR games? AAA Platformers?Most of those are coming from first party these days.
I want them to revive old ips. Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Wild Arms etc.
There's quite a few. Here's a list of potential studios:
- 4A Games
- 5th Cell Media
- Access Games
- Arc System Works
- Armature
- Asobo Studio
- Behavior Interactive
- Bluehole
- Bluepoint
- Bohemia Interactive
- Bungie
- Camelot Software Planning
- Cave
- CD Project Red
- Certain Affinity
- Codemasters
- Croteam
- Crytek
- CyberConnect2
- Dimps
- Dontnod
- Dovetail Games
- Fatshark
- Firesprite
- Frontier Developments
- Frozenbyte
- Gearbox
- Goodfeel
- Grounding Inc
- Haemimont Games
- HAL Laboratory
- Hello Games
- Hi-Rez Studios
- Housemarque
- Insomniac
- Intelligent Systems
- Inti Creates
- IO Interactive
- Iron Galaxy
- Kalypso Media
- Larian
- Level 5
- Limbic Entertainment
- Media.Vision
- MercurySteam
- Mistwalker
- Moon Studios
- Next Level Games
- Nihon Falcom
- Oddworld Inhabitants
- People Can Fly
- Platinum Games
- Playdead
- Q-Games
- Quantic Dreams
- Ready At Dawn
- Rebellion Games
- Remedy
- Skybox Labs
- Splash Damage
- Starbreeze
- Stoic Studio
- Studio Wildcard
- Sumo Digital
- Supergiant Games
- Supermassive Games
- Techland
- Tequilaworks
- Thatgamecompany
- tri-Crescendo
- Turtle Rock
- Twisted Pixel
- Valhalla Games
- Vanillaware
- Wargaming
- WayForward Techologies
- Yager Development
That's right, but after seeing the graphical upgrade of the new Tales game it made me crave an AAA JRPG even more just without it being so anime like Tales games usually are.
whats kojipro worth without Kojima tough? (Kojima is not the youngest anymore - he might pursue other things after the next or third title)
You may think that, but they have made it clear they want more devs. Be it expanding existing studios, building new studios or buying studios. They are already doing the first two and the third is likely on the way.
Well, Naughty Dog released a new game in 2013 (TLOU). And then developed TLOU Remastered (2014) themselves, while working on TLOU2 (pre production after Left Behind DLC) and UC4 at the same time.
The problem was that UC4 had huge development problems. Amy Henning, the director of the game and also key staff members were out of the project mid development. Sony had to take Neil and Bruce out of TLOU2 and make them clean up the mess it was left and finish the game. Huge amounts of work had to be completely redone. The story changed, voice actors changed, mechanics changed. The fact that they managed to finish it in 3 years was actually a freaking miracle. It is one of the most impressive turn arounds this gen imo considering the final result (93 MC, 16+ million sold).
Then, after it was finished, Neil came back to TLOU2 and a new team took the helm of a new Uncharted game, The Lost Legacy, which shipped in 2017, just 1 year after UC4. Which, again, is really fucking impressive. The game obviously would release much faster considering there is already asset templates build for it with UC4, but it is incredible how they mamaged to ship a game with that kind of productiom values in 1 year.
And now, with all Naughty Dog staff on TLOU2, the goal was to ship it in late 2019 according to rumours. Seems like they decided to delay it internally to early 2020, which is a shame but it isnt an unreasonable dev time at all considering that by early 2020 the entire team will have worked exclusively on TLOU2 just over 2 years.
Doesn't necessarily mean studio acquisitions right? Could it be tech stuff instead? I'm thinking of the Gaikai acquisition a few years back.
Sony aquisitioning Take Two would instantly put them as top dog in the digital libraries war. Here for it to be honest.
Responses alone would provide endless entertainment for years to come.
Responses alone would provide endless entertainment for years to come.
Didn't MS build the Initiative, or was it last gen? Although, they poached talent from Sony's studios for it.
Quick googling implied there is, and that there's a usermade fix for it, but I'm not that familiar with the matter.
I do agree, that it's a shame Sony/From never patched Bloodborne for the Pro, and I guess it's unlikely it'll be patched for the PS5 either. Frame-pacing has never bothered me personally, but I'd welcome visual and performance improvements for the game, especially supersampling. After all, it was nice to revisit The Last of Us in an improved form as well.
If you really want to piss people off suggest that Disney should buy Studio Ghibli.
Sony needs to fill voids in racing, fighting and arcade-y game. These genres aren't that strong even outside their first party. They got everything covered and no, they don't need JRPGs.
If they want to expand, I wish it would be in those areas. AND for the love of GOD, give the Astro bot team tons of money and have them make a proper platformer for PS5 that's not VR only.
If they want to expand, I wish it would be in those areas. AND for the love of GOD, give the Astro bot team tons of money and have them make a proper platformer for PS5 that's not VR only.
Tech and services makes more sense tbh. Sony really don't need dev teams, unless they focus around a team known for MP focused titles.
It's also a great take for Sony to acquire some smaller devs like Microsoft did with the focus on multiplayer games, together with some bigger names.
Cheering when MS does it but now that there's an assumption Sony might do it acquisitions are bad.
let's not forget, that when Jim Ryan talked about expanding the studios, he might have been referring to Manchester Studio and the San Diego Studio (which aren't officially announced yet)
They have had bad fortune expanding their studios to 2 game studios in the past. See Naughty Dog (The Last of Us/Uncharted 4) and SSM (GOW/Stig's Game).
Really, the only dev who did it right is Insomniac, which isn't even first part lul.
they probably learned, that making 2 AAA Games simultaniously is not feasible. They can still have 2 Teams (One Major Team working on the next project and a smaller team in Pre Production)
Guerilla Games did that with Horizon and Killzone
Nothing, which is exactly why Sony would be stupid to acquire them unless it's for free or very, very cheap. Without Kojima there is no Kojima Productions.
Besides, if both Sony and Kojima were interested in an acquisition it probably would have happened when Kojima Productions reformed.