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New regular Switch model with upgraded battery life announced! Same price, launches end of August (Old model: 2.5-6.5 hours, New model: 4.5-9.0 hours)
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My posts have always been about incremental upgrades hinted at by Iwata, growing a platform that was hardware agonistic and I still believe they are doing that. What I meant is that if a more powerful Switch launched this year, that exclusives won't come until the Switch 2. I've specifically mentioned that RDR2 wouldn't run without massive downgrades, and that I don't expect that game to ever come. Since you went back 9 months for that post, maybe you'll find it around the time RDR2 was released.
I have already admitted I was wrong in this thread.
3rd party AAA open world games like the Witcher 3 right? Nothing I said there has changed, in your post above you mention "yeah new switch might get a power bump but it won't be xb1x" and you make the assumption that elder scrolls 6 won't run on the Switch 2 as well. Just seems like you want to revel in my speculations being off the mark, they are, but yours weren't better, no one really thought Nintendo would re-release the current model until last month, and speculation changed accordingly. I had a 2x range and ending up a month ago when news started to break of the current Switch getting an upgrade, to a 30-50% range if any performance upgrade exists in the new version of the Switch.
I was in a Speculation thread, Speculating about realistic performance they could achieve and shared real insider information, I admit my speculation was wrong and some of my insider information was also not correct with the "twice as much" quote, as I did when I first started replying in this thread. I don't have salt for you, sorry for that as well. I enjoy speculating and I will continue to do so, when we made those posts above, 3rd parties had access to 196GFLOPs from the GPU, now they have access to 20% more (235GFLOPs), hackers have access to 393GFLOPs when portable and 472GFLOPs when docked, who is to say Nintendo is done adding performance to the current model and there is even more performance waiting for Nintendo to unlock on this new Switch, which has a max clock of 648GFLOPs. Anyways, remember regardless of what you or I think, reality won't change, Elder Scrolls 6 will or won't run on Switch 2, even if we both agree on the outcome, we could both be wrong.
PS being wrong in a speculation thread is part of speculating, if we had the facts, we wouldn't need to speculate.
Not really an expert on this but in the new DYKG video about Switch hacking they said that all first gen Switches are hackable because the exploit is hardware based.
I'm sure this has been asked and answered before but the OP is pretty barren and there are no threadmarks, and 31 pages is too much for me to read
Has the Joycon drifting issue been addressed at all? I'm reluctant to get a Switch while so many people are disappointed in the build quality of this key element
Has the Joycon drifting issue been addressed at all? I'm reluctant to get a Switch while so many people are disappointed in the build quality of this key element
i don't think they said anything about it in regards to the new model. Personaly i wouldn't be that anxious about it, my day one model still doesn't drift. And you have guarantee in the first year and repairing the joycons can be done by yourself with pretty low costs of a few bucks. It's a problem but it shouldn't hold you off from buying a Switch imo.
They'd be correct if doing so, both were indeed 'Pro' level upgrades.
Like, removing things such as display, battery, and still increasing the price by a significant margin, means that either it would be overpriced or that the power gap would unreasonable within the same platform.
Nintendo has already failed itself out of the dedicated home console market, making an expensive home would be chasing the same mistake. If a home console Switch had to exist it should be at best about what the Apple TV is to iOS devices: a more budget friendly ($150 max) small HDMI box with the same SoC running the same software.
The flagship (i.e. best and most expensive) Switch needs to be a real Switch, that supports every mode, that carries the original message does everything. Anything less should be budget products.
The 3ds to n3ds is a bigger upgrade than we saw with ps4 to ps4 pro.
The XB1 to XB1X is a 4.5x increase, while I think Nintendo should wait for a Switch 2 and just release all 3 form factors at the same time, a console only Switch that is 4.5X the docked Switch is 1.77TFLOPs. Like I said, they should wait, but they can definitely have a reasonable console only Switch on the market.
And it was done because the new chip was cheaper to manufacture than it was to keep making the old ones. Nintendo didn't make it to appeal to power seekers like Sony did. What Nintendo did was revise hardware as they always do. What Sony and MS did was make a concerted effort to attract a smaller niche of gamers willing to pay more for a power upgrade. Nintendo won't do that.
It was done to put a more capable device on the market, which is why they focused so much on the CPU, (to port gamecube and wii games to it, and then only ported Xenoblade, should have put something like Wind Waker or Sunshine / Galaxy on it instead) either way, they weren't chasing a niche market, you are right, but Nintendo has never had a hardware agnostic platform like they do with the Switch, they could release any number of Switch devices with any performance level they want, it doesn't matter as long as they sell them at a profit and at least 1 of them is a success.
This is the worst use of R&D I've ever heard of.
Y'all docked crazies need to come to terms with Nintendo making a powerful home console, or really any TV-only system, is never happening again.
They could. And yet nothing in their recent history indicates they care to.
I agree, but it's easy money and the option exists. Saying they won't do it is a bridge too far, but I don't think they will bother, at least not yet.
He's kinda awful as a hands-on reporter. I'm very disappointed in whom they chose; I can honestly see either interpretation. I can't fathom why he says "I don't know what the Switch lite vent feels like" when he had hands on with the actual unit. Is he referring to texture or something? Ugh. In any case, thanks for bringing up the ambiguity - I hadn't considered that he may be back telling us about the 2017 model again.
They are the same weight, it likely means that it does.
You need the joycons to play on the tv in docked mode. At least without buying additional accessories like a pro controller.
Power increases in that range should be made while keeping the form factor. The top of the range Switch needs to be a version that does it all, not a HDMI box with a mobile chipset that stays tethered to your TV. There's much less value in that.
That's a question of marketing, not a question of technology.
Maybe to leave open the possibility of faster performance modes in future firmware updates.
I'd venture to guess that it needs it for docked mode too, 7+ watts and charging the battery on top of that, active cooling is likely still pushing 11+ watts when docked.
Nice revision in battery life; let's wait for teardowns, and additional tests for games that use dynamic reolution, the newer SOC could provide better results for such games without having to get SW updates, we'll see.
They could have opted for other improvements so that early adopters could double dip (for example 64GB, better wifi, integrated bluetoooth audio) as a 'new' switch SKU, definitely not the case here, sadly - I'll pass for now if no performance improvements.
They could have opted for other improvements so that early adopters could double dip (for example 64GB, better wifi, integrated bluetoooth audio) as a 'new' switch SKU, definitely not the case here, sadly - I'll pass for now if no performance improvements.
Zero chance of this. Straight up, zero. Assuming that Nintendo is unlocking ANY additional performance profiles (I highly doubt it) to developers, they will 100% have to be patched to work.
revision listed under orig sx - both listed at $299.99, even though the difference in battery life is highlighted
The revised switch is going to replace the old one... But don't like this. A product with significantly better battery life should be distinguished differently with an altered name name, boxing label, and some physical difference to distinguish between this and the older one.
Says available mid-August there. Was the original thread title accurate with 'end of august'? (i.e. is there something in Japanese saying that? )
Are online retailers expected to have separate listing? Or are we probably going to have to a physical location to guarantee it's a revised Switch?
I think it's mid-August in USA, end of August in Japan and early September in Europe.
USA! USA!
I can't wait until these hit stores. Wish I didn't have to have my OG Switch to transfer the saves that don't do cloud saves but oh well. 5.5+ hours in BoTW sounds sweet.
I might actually be able to do a whole season in Stardew Valley on one 7-9 hour charge lol
I might actually be able to do a whole season in Stardew Valley on one 7-9 hour charge lol
It has an entirely different box. Also, they have specified that the serial number will start with a different code on Nintendo.com.
Honestly I'm kind of upset they didn't revise anything in terms of the form factor.
The dock is shit. That should've definitely been revised. Could've made a better kick stand. A 32GB drive was a fucking joke at Switch launch and is absolute lunacy in 2019. We just have to hope they fixed the joy con drifting problem
The dock is shit. That should've definitely been revised. Could've made a better kick stand. A 32GB drive was a fucking joke at Switch launch and is absolute lunacy in 2019. We just have to hope they fixed the joy con drifting problem
Seems like quite a few here and other parts of the internets are selling there OG switch and getting the updated model.
I want to, but to be honest I've only played my switch like 5 times since launch undocked.
However now would be the best time to sell the OG, resale value will probably drop rather quickly once the updated model is out.
I want to, but to be honest I've only played my switch like 5 times since launch undocked.
However now would be the best time to sell the OG, resale value will probably drop rather quickly once the updated model is out.
The box is red colored, but Identical otherwise. The battery life and serial number is a bit of a read between the lines thing for casuals. What I'm trying to say was that they should have changed the name and maybe design to really differentiate it from OG model.
Honestly the boxes are more different than I expected them to be, it wouldn't be hard at all to distinguish the new box.
Honestly the boxes are more different than I expected them to be, it wouldn't be hard at all to distinguish the new box.
Like 99% of ppl won't know which is which without checking.
Honestly the boxes are more different than I expected them to be, it wouldn't be hard at all to distinguish the new box.
Ah cool...I was coming to ask if there was a sure way to make sure I buy the new one come August.
It's missing the "Great new looks, same great flavor" sticker of all the food box redesigns. They'll probably get it.
The opposite could also happen as the OG model will likely be the only "modable" version of the NS for a long time.
The people who don't know the difference probably aren't even looking for it.
That's simply how the Switch OS works. It provides a number of performance profiles with which an application can set the clock speed of the CPU, the GPU and the RAM.
At this time, there is no performance profile in the most recent version of the Switch OS (8.0.1) that makes use of higher clock rates, so both the OS and the games would need to be patched (the former to add new profiles, the latter to actually use these new profiles).
Not necessarily. The OG Switch will have value simply for homebrew as it has a physical exploit.
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