I've never had Papa Johns, have only heard bad things. I'm also finding it difficult to process the idea of a political movement having an 'official pizza', tbh.
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Newsweek: Alt-Right White Supremacists Claim Papa John's as Official Pizza
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They changed the formula a while ago and it's awful now. So even that's no good.
I think the majority of people are already agreed on the quality of their ceo's political stance. So we're just all bashing on the pizza because it's just as bad although there are people who don't agree.
Yup just like their pizza and the pepperoncini, the garlic butter used to be way better when PJ first started. I think they just dropped the quality of everything way down to increase profits and pay for more Peyton Manning.
Even easier for Little Caesars "Their founder is popular with Nazis, our founder paid Rosa Parks rent"
I hate that they're the only shoes that fit my feet properly.
I used to buy a lot of Papa Johns because of their 50% but no more this time. I'll happily pay more for Pizza.
It's almost as if white supremacists flock to entities that express conservative sentiments.
I just hope all of those corporate entities go to great lengths to distance themselves from such rhetoric and condemns those terrorist organizations.
I just hope all of those corporate entities go to great lengths to distance themselves from such rhetoric and condemns those terrorist organizations.
I think it makes 100% sense to boycott Papa John's because Papa John's is shitty, but I think its conceding defeat to boycott Papa Johns because a bunch of racists have "claimed" it as their jersey. All that accomplishes is legitimizing Nazis.
Yep. Considering he's supporting Trump, it shouldn't come as a surprise that the alt-right likes Papa John's.
I'm not in the US, but if I was, I'd never order Papa John's even before John Schnatter came out as a Trump supporter. I just find him to be way too fucking creepy to eat his food (which, judging by every Papa John's thread on here, is shit anyway).
I mean, the Pizza isn't really at all what I'm trying to discuss here.
Replace "Papa Johns" with anything.
Yep which wouldn't be so bad if they like little caesar's had the decency to be cheap. But they have hilarious prices most of the time.
Overpriced nasty pizza at that :P (and I seriously ate that junk for most of my college days. Gaaaarbage. Never again will I eat that. Don't know why my dumbass didn't just buy Domino's/Pizza Hut.)
I guess we can picket outside all of the Papa Johns with #NotMyPizza and toss pineapple on all the pizzas coming out as another form of boycotting. Personally I like their pizza but won't be going there any more. As others have stated plenty of other non-racist pizza places abound. Plus the Free pizza with VISA Checkout thing didn't work this year so no more 3 dollar Papa Sized pizza for the fam.
When that happens then we can talk. Until then I for one am not here to save a man who shits on his employees and victims of police violence.
This response seems a little dismissive of my actual point. Go for it, don't support that man who shits on his employees and victims of police violence. I'm all for that. But it seems incredibly reckless to let Nazis take whatever they want, regardless of whether or not that thing they wanted was shitty to begin with. Giving anything up to them because we're better than that thing is prideful at best, dangerous at worst. If we let them be associated with one of the largest food chains in the country, then... Now one of the largest food chains in the country is now a beacon for a group of Nazi shit stains.
I feel as though many people here are casually showing just how cool they are and how they have the moral highground because it's #nbd for them if Nazis claim some pizza chain, but not really thinking about how that might impact the growth or influence of those extremist groups, and that deeply disturbs me.
But it's draped in the flag, so he was weighing minorities who eat pizza with patriots who want to stick it to minorities by buying multiple pizzas, multiple times.
He might have made the wrong decision as at right boycotts don't seem to ever work.
"Better genetics, Better people. Papa Ethnostate"
It's hilarious how all these chuds are so desperate for validation that they'll rally behind literal garbage served on crust because the ceo is also an asshole like them.
It's hilarious how all these chuds are so desperate for validation that they'll rally behind literal garbage served on crust because the ceo is also an asshole like them.
It's not like Nazis came out and said "Nintendo is now the official game company of Nazis."
This is a shitty company with a stupid owner who rolled out the red carpet for these cry baby conservative Nazis. They deserve each other.
When they try to claim something worth a shit, then we'll talk.
Lol! Fitting. Papa Johns is terrible, and to steal a joke from a friend, named after a toilet, so what did you really expect?
Seems like you're missing the comments from the owner that caused both of these things.
People are boycotting because of comments by the owner. The alt-right are buying stuff from papa johns because of the owner. I don't give a fuck what the alt-right does with Papa Johns pizza because the owner dude already convinced me not to support the business.
Also, I don't understand what people mean by "letting the alt right." Are we supposed to give a damn about papa johns after what the owner said? Both sides (heh) are voting with their wallet. We'll see which causes a dent in the bottom line.
I think less "I'm okay with this", "Good" or "They can have it" knee jerk reactions might be a good start?
Nazis have become more prevalent in our modern day for a multitude of reasons, one them I believe is because they were consolidated to the "Not a problem" folder for so long now.
Papa John's got annoyed at people kneeling during the NFL. Just alt righters said it was the official pizza.
So you were just tone policing. Got you
and what universe where no one is concerned about Nazis and white supremacy?
I think you're overthinking this. The Nazis are "claiming" Papa John's because of their founder being a bigoted idiot who says things that align with their beliefs. Now what their founder said was plenty enough for most of us to say fuck Papa John's, but this is going to chase any fence-sitters who don't want to be associated with NeoNazis away from the franchise as well. Maybe it will lead their founder to reconsider his positions (probably not, but hope springs eternal), or marginalize the business, which is good. Shitty person and he deserves to fail.
Thanks for the condescending response.
I'm just saying that I believe this could potentially be a bigger deal than people here are thinking.
I also never said that no one is concerned about Nazis or white supremacy. In the mid-2000's in the US, I have spoken to so many people that didn't consider racism a problem. Or that magically somehow "Racism was over".
We relegated Nazis to a caricature, a myth. Why do you think everyone is so surprised and appalled at the recent uptick in Nazi activism? Somehow now Nazi-ism has been normalized. Nazis now apparently have the ability to be "nice people". We haven't been taking it seriously until relatively recently. No we know why we have to.
You come out "tut tuting" but don't offer no solutions, and you cast aside why people are feeling this way. That that is the essence of tone policing. Why should people champion a man who would shit on them? His views align with nazis, the nazis aren't trying to co opt the Red Cross or the Humane society for a reason.
Well, speak openly in a way that seems to align yourself with racists, get the support of racists.
Just remember what happened with Chik Fil 'A though. Their leadership was outed as, and admitted to, funding bigotry, and a bunch of people swarmed their business in support. The US in the modern era, sadly.
Just remember what happened with Chik Fil 'A though. Their leadership was outed as, and admitted to, funding bigotry, and a bunch of people swarmed their business in support. The US in the modern era, sadly.
I'm well aware why people feel the way that they do, I'm just asking those people to perhaps consider, outside of their emotions, what this might mean or lead to in the bigger picture. I'm not claiming that I know everything, I'm just afraid of this thread becoming an echo chamber with nothing but hot takes. I'm not saying "Listen to both sides, guys". I'm not defending Papa John's. I'm just saying that examining this situation with perhaps a little more scrutiny might be worth looking into.
Just so we're clear the Nazis haven't really "taken" anything. They can literally say they "claimed" everything and anything, there's no way to stop that. None of us care about that.
When they've taken something in a way that prevents people from accessing said thing then we'll talk. For example let's say they claimed public transit and prevented all minorites from using it by blockading the access points then that's something to act on.
We're all not buying Papa John's because we don't want to support the dumbass CEO and secondarily because the pizza tastes horrible.
I don't think you realize how boycotting works. The point is to get whatever business they support to condemn them.
Make everyone they think is their ally, publicly reject their beliefs.