So far we don't really know how powerful the new xbox will or could be as Klee mentioned the current state of devkits from MS might be obsolete and far behind compared to Sonys devkit builts.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
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So far we don't really know how powerful the new xbox will or could be as Klee mentioned the current state of devkits from MS might be obsolete and far behind compared to Sonys devkit builts.
oh 100% custom controller = you're only buying from sony if it's upgradable at all.
honestly, ms will do the same - if only to not deal with products that aren't at spec.
though if ms uses of the shelf parts ( which i would put as a really low chance ) it would be due to cost and allowing windows to get storage parity
i see people in here speculating wildly about "custom ssd" and going all kind of unneeded places with it. i'm pretty sure it's not entirely uncommon to use custom ssd controllers- i bet high end storage vendors do it, hell apple does it.
there is of course a chance that the whole ssd package is designed in a way to exploit the want of fast random IO, but the cost goes up
This messaging from MS about scaling and cross gen is making me want to pick up a One X this black Friday. I can trade a few things and snatch it up with game for about $150 which is not bad for a $500 console that they will continue to support. That also gets me into the ecosystem fairly cheaply.
For $150 after trade-ins go for it. Gamepass will make the wait for next gen much easier.
this is a huge benefit of nvme - direct memory access and lower overheads.
Do it. And leave your GT here. I foresee a coop session in the future ...
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yeah will do. I was really close to purchasing last week on Woot they had a refurb unit plus Jedi for $300.
I don't think so, Valve produces it to enforce their platform.
Yes, I believe it will come. Every HL came to consoles eventually. Today it's not possible to run on PS4 vanilla.
I wouldn't even be surprised if he will even pack HBM3 in the last moment and wow us all like this gen, to allow, small die size, high clock speed and high brandwidth and even a great amount of VRAM.
I doubt it. Valve's business model has shifted significantly since they published The Orange Box on consoles. None of their other titles since then have made it to console.
That being said, I'd pre-order the hell out of it and it could cause me to buy PSVR2 sooner.
only thing i can think of would be to leverage the cloud in some way that a typical game couldnt. but i'm scratching my head at what that might be, lol. maybe it's xcloud's version of the stadia selling point of a game running off multiple blades?
Is this the fourth officially confirmed game to support PS5 by being updated on it?
So far the confirmed games are :
- Cyberpunk 2077
- Marvel Avengers
- Shadows Of Kepler
- Control
As Kleegamefan has pointed out in his support for Stadia, cloud platforms can enable things that home platforms can't do. If there is a compelling enough case for a title that simply isn't possible without compromise on home consoles I don't see a problem with it.
I would really get it on PSVR2 too but liek you said this won't happen, at least anytime soon, unless Sony will have a deal with Valve to promote its PSVR2 and if the Sony VR will support PC too so it can work on Steam games. We will see what will happen next-gen.
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Well i dont know about what specs are we gonna get but all i know is that for sure Sony will try everything to keep those 36 MILLION PS subscribers stay on PS universe.
I think backwards compatability is a MUST for PS5 and good launch games in first 2 years. HZD 2,Spiderman,God of War 2,Days Gone 2,Uncharted 5,Gran Turismo 7 or big GT Sport upgrade with VR and of course good exclusive new IP games
I think backwards compatability is a MUST for PS5 and good launch games in first 2 years. HZD 2,Spiderman,God of War 2,Days Gone 2,Uncharted 5,Gran Turismo 7 or big GT Sport upgrade with VR and of course good exclusive new IP games
- CDPRojektRed confirmed during GDC in a slide that their game will support next-gen systems (adn I don't think they will re-release the game).
- Avengers will "receive enhancements on PlayStation 5" which literally means update and not a remaster
- Shadows Of Kepler is confirmed by the lead developer to support PS5 via update during launch (the game is a PS4 game).
- I don't know about Control. From this article it seems the devs are willing to do so too.
Again don't make a big fuss about this tbh, people are still in the doubt about things whtehr getting updated or sold separately as separate PS5 versions. This won't happen (at least for most of the games), otherwise this will nullify the BC argument.
Kleegamefan - Next Gen Console Information V2
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Kleegamefan is a member who has industry roots, and has been verified by ZhugeEX.
The information they have revealed cannot be verified, but I've decided to make this post to house the information regarding the next generation consoles that Kleegamefan has come across.
It would be wise to exercise caution regarding the information they have revealed in this thread, however Kleegamefan appears to be a person who strongly values their credibility.
Perhaps try to take the information with an open mind, and please refrain from being hostile towards them. It's okay to question the validity of the information but keep in mind that they can't really prove any of this stuff as it could get themselves and their sources in trouble, which we don't want to do at all.
Kleegamefan has said some fascinating things that I think people will be interested in reading about, so I have quoted some of their posts below:
I will update this post with new information from Kleegamefan.
Update:
The performance difference between the PS5 and Scarlett Part 1
PlayStation 5 backwards compatibility
Impressions of a Next Generation Game targeting PC and Next Generation Consoles
Games vs Specs
The Next Generation game that Klee saw was the biggest open world they had ever seen in terms of scope.
Image Quality
The performance difference between the PS5 and Scarlett Part 2
How this Next Gen game compares to Control on PC with RTX (Ray tracing)
Not much talk of SSD benefits
The performance difference between the PS5 and Scarlett Part 3 - (October 2019) The PS5 is allegedly slightly more powerful than Xbox Scarlet
New Dev Kits
Performance difference between PlayStation 5 and Scarlet (November 2019)
In response to is there a 30% performance difference:
Lockhart
Lockhart is a codename for a rumoured next generation console from Microsoft, its rumoured to be a less powerful alternative to Scarlet, however Microsoft haven't revealed anything other than Scarlet, which they announced at E3 2019. This lead people to believe that it doesn't exist, so discussions about it died down.
Discussions of Lockhart have popped up again, from these discussions, Kleegamefan commented on the matter where he said that he was informed that Lockhart is not a thing.
There has been more information about Lockhart from other sources: Kotaku - Sources: Microsoft Is Still Planning A Cheaper, Disc-Less Next-Gen Xbox
This was Kleegamefan's response:
(Matt's post for context)
Potential release window and target platforms for the game Kleegamefan saw:
The information they have revealed cannot be verified, but I've decided to make this post to house the information regarding the next generation consoles that Kleegamefan has come across.
It would be wise to exercise caution regarding the information they have revealed in this thread, however Kleegamefan appears to be a person who strongly values their credibility.
Perhaps try to take the information with an open mind, and please refrain from being hostile towards them. It's okay to question the validity of the information but keep in mind that they can't really prove any of this stuff as it could get themselves and their sources in trouble, which we don't want to do at all.
Kleegamefan has said some fascinating things that I think people will be interested in reading about, so I have quoted some of their posts below:
I will update this post with new information from Kleegamefan.
Update:
The performance difference between the PS5 and Scarlett Part 1
PlayStation 5 backwards compatibility
Impressions of a Next Generation Game targeting PC and Next Generation Consoles
Games vs Specs
The Next Generation game that Klee saw was the biggest open world they had ever seen in terms of scope.
Image Quality
The game was running on a Development kit
The performance difference between the PS5 and Scarlett Part 2
How this Next Gen game compares to Control on PC with RTX (Ray tracing)
Not much talk of SSD benefits
The performance difference between the PS5 and Scarlett Part 3 - (October 2019) The PS5 is allegedly slightly more powerful than Xbox Scarlet
New Dev Kits
Performance difference between PlayStation 5 and Scarlet (November 2019)
In response to is there a 30% performance difference:
Lockhart
Lockhart is a codename for a rumoured next generation console from Microsoft, its rumoured to be a less powerful alternative to Scarlet, however Microsoft haven't revealed anything other than Scarlet, which they announced at E3 2019. This lead people to believe that it doesn't exist, so discussions about it died down.
Discussions of Lockhart have popped up again, from these discussions, Kleegamefan commented on the matter where he said that he was informed that Lockhart is not a thing.
There has been more information about Lockhart from other sources: Kotaku - Sources: Microsoft Is Still Planning A Cheaper, Disc-Less Next-Gen Xbox
This was Kleegamefan's response:
(Matt's post for context)
Potential release window and target platforms for the game Kleegamefan saw:
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The only thing that excites me about cloud gaming are the possibilities opened up in multiplayer when all clients are effectively on a LAN, even if that leads to exclusives. I hope there are no exclusives just for the sake of it.
I think their comments are more of a 'if we had made Control for PS5 xyz would have been possible...' I wouldn't take it as confirmation they are working on a version for it.
Oh ok, so so far those first 3 are the only offically confirmed ones, even FF14 is not officially confiemd for now ( just Yoshida's wishes so far).
No. I'm sure I'm not alone in having plenty of questions but none you will/can answer! ;)
i give thuway two days before he asks you if the PS5 is stronger again.
This is strange because he was the person who leaked the PS4 specs back then.XD
If you could post your favorite cheesecake recipe, that would be great.
Some games can only be done in the cloud. Think huge MMO type stuff.
I'd be willing to bet that a negligible percentage of Xbox One users have these over-inflated expectations for Scarlett. Xbox will be fine.
I mean, I love the X. If we get X resolution with better loading, better animations, and double the frame rate I'm a happy camper. The X saved this XBOX gen for me.
I'm glad to hear that development is going well on next gen platforms. Could you ask your friend if it's a big ordeal to support multiple performance modes across the consoles? I'm curious as to how much extra development time it takes or if it's something a couple of engineers can work on seamlessly continuously as the project progresses. For example are assets, etc, designed to scale during the planning stages?
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