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Next gen PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - Secret sauces spicing 2019
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Ok,thanks.I added translation of the most important part-Ariel :)
Usb-c for psvr 2 is great! A single connection for input,audio & video will make the experience much better,and if they manage to implement the break box inside the console,we have a winner.
PS4 was "return of the king".
PS5 will be "long live the queen".
:)
In honor of the new code name, I present the start of PlayStation Meeting 2020:
(Music starts and Shawn Layden clears throat, a choir appears)
The seaweed is always greener
In somebody else's lake...
(Music starts and Shawn Layden clears throat, a choir appears)
The seaweed is always greener
In somebody else's lake...
Or something like...this? :)
You get Orbis too in the lower right corner,lol.
I don't get your point at all. Subscription models usually cater to the casual who do not buy new games multiple times per year. Netflix for example is used by millions who also prefer not to buy movies or go to the theater so again I question what chepaer alternatives are being killed off. There are more options now than ever and gaming seems to be the last frontier to penetrate the market much more than it ever has.
It must be explicitly supported over USB-C which I don't think there's any incentive for Sony to add.
Not correct. USB-C is just the plug. You only have to support Displayport if you implement USB 3.1 Gen 2 over USB-C. You can implement USB 3.1 Gen 1 or even USB 2.0 over USB-C too.
"Since the ID of Ariel (PS5) has been disclosed in certain places, there are more and more topics to talk about." does komachi mean that information regarding the PS5 is starting to circulate between developers and such? maybe finally the real leaks will come soon then.
If PS5 is Ariel, maybe PSVR2 is Flounder and... dunno, PS Tablet Remote thing is going to be Sebastian :D
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So if Sony makes PS5 DP compatible i can just buy a USB-C to DP cable and connect it to my monitor, right?
Not if they only use that port for PSVR. Would make sense as they can have a single cable for video output, and audio in/out. Also possibly video input if they have cameras on the headset like I hope they will
I hope it is then, i have that free DP port on my monitor that would make my setup a bit easier to handle.
VR and 3D likely supported with the PS5 hardware but when will the OS fully support it? Remember Facebook invested in VR and from the following has a road map to introduce it to consumers.
https://www.socialmediatoday.com/ne...re-coming-heres-what-theyll-look-like/525332/
"Interestingly, the origin of 3D photos wasn't an idea for how to enhance snapshots, but rather how to democratize the creation of VR content."
Facebook is investing big in virtual reality, and in VR being the future of social communication. But it's a long way off yet - and to get people to that next stage, to transition them from their regular social feeds to full VR environments, Facebook needs stepping stones, tech pathways which hint at what the next evolution offers, and why users might want to use them.
This is partly why Facebook's so keen to push the use of Facebook Stories– through the expanded use of the Facebook Camera, they can showcase new AR tools and effects, shepherding users into their expanded digital offerings, which will eventually lead to full VR interaction. 3D photos are another step on this path – while it may seem small, the new image offering will draw people in, making them more interested in how they enhance their own images in the same way.
https://www.socialmediatoday.com/ne...re-coming-heres-what-theyll-look-like/525332/
"Interestingly, the origin of 3D photos wasn't an idea for how to enhance snapshots, but rather how to democratize the creation of VR content."
Facebook is investing big in virtual reality, and in VR being the future of social communication. But it's a long way off yet - and to get people to that next stage, to transition them from their regular social feeds to full VR environments, Facebook needs stepping stones, tech pathways which hint at what the next evolution offers, and why users might want to use them.
This is partly why Facebook's so keen to push the use of Facebook Stories– through the expanded use of the Facebook Camera, they can showcase new AR tools and effects, shepherding users into their expanded digital offerings, which will eventually lead to full VR interaction. 3D photos are another step on this path – while it may seem small, the new image offering will draw people in, making them more interested in how they enhance their own images in the same way.
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This is specifically talking about supporting sending a Displayport signal over one of the USB Type C ports.
Ah, I see. Is there a reason why it'd be a DisplayPort signal and not HDMI? Are they the same? I'm lost!
If you want DP over USB Sony has to implement USB 3.1 Gen 2. And yes, if they do that you only need a USB-C to DP cable.
Btw in addition to DP USB 3.1 Gen 2 also gives you Thunderbolt 3 (=10gbps USB)which allows you to operate external NVMe SSDs at 4x PCIe 2.0 speeds (1000MB/s)!!!!
Honestly, I don't know if a console manufacturer is willing to spend the money on such things ...
Not the same. Different specifications and signals.
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Supporting USB 3.1 Gen 2 doesn't automatically give TB3 support.
And this chip (Ariel) definitely has multiple USB 3.1 Gen 2 ports, one USB type C (w/ DP alt mode support) and two Type A.
Couldn't ps3 have 7 bt devices connected at once? 7 plus console equals 8. 8 legs to an octopus plus a crab and a flounder equals 10.
10tf
The names Anubis and Arden popped up also. Am I missreading it?
It's probably not primarily intended as a display output. Like I said, I'd expect that USB C port to be where PSVR2 plugs in.
what is this? i also see references to Anubis which i think is xbox related.
Ariel has red hair and the decimal code for red is 255,0,0 so I guess that confirms PS5 will be 255TF. Sorry Xbox.
Yup, I mixed up USB 3.1 Gen 2 and USB 3.2. USB 3.1 Gen 2 only supports Thunderbolt 2.
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Yup, I mixed up USB 3.1 Gen 2 and USB 3.2 which includes Thunderbolt 3. Thunderbolt3 is also 20Mbps instead the 10Mbps in USB 3.1. Gen 2.
OK, so it seems the the x 1/x 2 in the listing isn't the count of the ports, it's the spec of the ports, then.
Yup, Liverpool is the codename for the PS4 GPU. It's less significant than I thought, though - the list is a mapping of all the PCI Ids used by this vendor (AMD), not necessarily related to any single product.
One thing that IS interesting about that listing is that Ariel has an IOMMU, what might indicate that it will have a memory pool that isn't necessarily contiguous - i.e. having two pools of memory. IOMMUs basically virtualize the memory address space so all the processors see is a single homogeneous space.
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Oh, yeah, also no host device supports TB2 or 3 that doesn't have an Intel processor in it. At least not yet.
Ah ok. It wasn't a through the looking glass moment just yet. Thanks you 2
Arden has this as well.
Edit:Additionally Arden has this which is really interesting:
162bArden PCIe Non-Transparent Bridge
In short this is a means to connect two independent processors across PCIe. So, if Arden is the Xbox Scarlet SoC, what other processor exists in Xbox Scarlet for this bridge to connect to?
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