He answered me directly in some other thread when i asked him ,i'll try to find it now.
edit: Modiz found it.
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Next gen PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - Secret sauces spicing 2019
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He answered me directly in some other thread when i asked him ,i'll try to find it now.
edit: Modiz found it.
i think sony will probably be taking bigger losses on the PS5 next gen, which should also help in increasing the performance.
i already linked him above no need for you to look up
why do you say that if nothing is certain.
The only thing to know for sure is that both Sony and Microsoft are aiming higher than that "10.7 teraflops" number that Google threw out last week.
4TF was never a rumour. At least not one that a sane person would actually spend energy thinking about.
Interesting video on raytracing with UE4.
It's how I think we will see raytracing next gen.
It will be a combination of both.
Where no reflective materials like wood or matte plastic will not need ray tracing and will just use the cheaper screen space reflections.
If I can use the XMB from the damn remote my god, my life with PlayStation and games in general would be changed
Surely Google's 10.7TF is irrelevant to both PS5 and Scarlett as both will have largely locked specs by now even if both are November 2020.
you should have seen the responses in here then. people were certain it was real.
I have one last question, we have the mod in here Matt who has in the past been a reliable source for sony and MS roadmaps, and he mentioned that the plan for the PS5 was always 2019, which many assumed meant that the PS5 got delayed from 2019 to 2020, have you heard anything like that?
Not really as you'd have to have a case/cooling redesign for anything other than tiny tweaks like OG Xbox One (already had a oversize cooler/case).
Albert Penello explained this previously.
Correct. IIRC the PS4 final case design wasn't final until after the reveal in Feb 2013. Clock speed can change up or down after the actual silicon is final. I don't expect the final specs and case design to be done until at least 8 months before release, maybe even 6 months.
Like I said before, I think google aimed for that number so they can get as close to next-gen consoles as possible with currently available tech.. Sony/MS had a power aim since long ago, don't think they suddenly decided to raise the specs because of Stadia.
Dude some people believe the world is flat. To see other people believing in a 2019 release despite all evidence and insiders telling otherwise is not so surprising lol
Indeed,i guess only Sony first party studios have them at this point.I was thinking Sony might send dev kits to 3rd parties now after GDC.
that might still be happening, as i assume they dont take the devkits directly from sony at GDC, but its true that jason's new posts do indicate that the rumors of a planned 2019 launch that got delayed to 2020 were not true after all.
There were plenty of PlayStation fans bracing for 8tf as well but good job bringing more stupid fanboy nonsense to the thread I guess.
Anyway, regardless wether or not we get official announcements at E3 I expect to see some next gen trailers from 3rd parties. I love those. That brief time where you know they look too good to be true but you still marvel at them and want to believe. Ah, good times.
I am still Team March 2020. If the rumors are correct then devs won't need PS5 specific devkits to get their currently in development games running on PS5.
The PS5 will be natively backwards compatible with the PS4. It will use iterative standard-ish hardware. It will use an iterative API. The SDK will be very similar to the PS4. Games will be able to be built right now for the PS4, work out of the box on PS5 with nothing else, and can have a special patch or built in mode to take advantage of the PS5's more powerful hardware similar to the PS4 Pro.
We will likely see a handful of PS5 exclusives at launch that will do crazy things (likely mostly first party) but as long as devs have a general idea of specs they can just use a PC equivalent build to prepare their games to look and run amazingly at a level way beyond the PS4 Pro in time for PS5 launch.
We aren't dealing with specialized hardware and crazy codebases anymore. This is all standardized and simplified.
I fully expect a March 2020 launch even if 2/3rds of developers right now still don't have a dedicated PS5 devkit.
The PS5 will be natively backwards compatible with the PS4. It will use iterative standard-ish hardware. It will use an iterative API. The SDK will be very similar to the PS4. Games will be able to be built right now for the PS4, work out of the box on PS5 with nothing else, and can have a special patch or built in mode to take advantage of the PS5's more powerful hardware similar to the PS4 Pro.
We will likely see a handful of PS5 exclusives at launch that will do crazy things (likely mostly first party) but as long as devs have a general idea of specs they can just use a PC equivalent build to prepare their games to look and run amazingly at a level way beyond the PS4 Pro in time for PS5 launch.
We aren't dealing with specialized hardware and crazy codebases anymore. This is all standardized and simplified.
I fully expect a March 2020 launch even if 2/3rds of developers right now still don't have a dedicated PS5 devkit.
With everything rumored, what would be a comparable PC build to last some years? Obviously I do know that there's no point for it since they're so different but fuck it, it's for fun sake
Same I m still at March team.if no leak by e3 might move to November
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Jason was almost directly contradicting what Zhuge and Matt told us,and this is only going to create even more confusion i'm afraid.
the thing that interests me now after reading jason's new posts is "were the rumors of a delay from 2019 even true to begin with?"
his wording indicates that 2020 has always been the plan and that sony moved it like the rumors originally indicated.
regarding zhuge it is possible the development kits he heard of are either from first party teams, or are just the spec sheets that the developers recieved and that they are still working with PCs.
the issue is with what Matt has told us, because it doesnt sound like it fits with the new information.
Team 2019 have been beaten into submission. Time I think to break the bad news to team March 2020.
Guys...It isn't happening.
Guys...It isn't happening.
glad they are both pushing above Stadia
a good thing for multiplats next gen if they are above 10.7
a good thing for multiplats next gen if they are above 10.7
Controller looks quite thicket could put a bigger battery life in there.
I like the cool wii u controller vibes I'm getting
Unfortunately, Matt didn't say anything on this topic since September last year. He works in the industry and knows these things and the people who really know,like him,understandably stay quiet :(
The rest of us can only guess and speculate...
Paddles on ds5 at least givinf the option to attach them later (buying separate) would be insane
thank you for the clarification and all the other important points you gave out in this thread! i and i assume everone in here appreciate it.
Do you think it wouldn't be able to compare to already avaliable stuff?
This feels like one those he said/she said problems from school text books.
Why focus on their correctness when they can all be wrong. Instead, take each as a possibility for discussion. :P
Sure, just build with a 2700X and Vega VII. Performance could well surpass Vega 64 and you'll need the clock headroom on 2700X to offset IPC advantages and optimizations.
Good that PS5 is now also confirmed as a monster specs wise above 10.7Tf. Can't wait for it to be revealed.
Question: Dual instance Stadia, which they talked about and showed a tech demo of, is that a straight 2 x 10.7 = 21.4Tf or is it more complicated than that?
Question: Dual instance Stadia, which they talked about and showed a tech demo of, is that a straight 2 x 10.7 = 21.4Tf or is it more complicated than that?
Sorry, but what is specifically making you think it will come spring 2020?
Who cares how much TF they throw at it when they have to compress the image to make the stream usable in a typical bandwidth scenario?
okay, so going back to the new information we have on the table.
an 11TF+ GPU is really nice. at least 6x more powerful than the PS4 (and around 8x for the xbox one) in linear scaling if you exclude the efficiency improvements recieved from the architectural improvements, that would mean that there should be no problem updating PS4 games to checkerboard 4k at 60 frames a second, not bad at all.
an 11TF+ GPU is really nice. at least 6x more powerful than the PS4 (and around 8x for the xbox one) in linear scaling if you exclude the efficiency improvements recieved from the architectural improvements, that would mean that there should be no problem updating PS4 games to checkerboard 4k at 60 frames a second, not bad at all.
its more complicated than that. while its true that teoritically you get 21.4TF, in real world performance it wouldnt really be that close to it i think. if i recall correctly Nvidia's SLI solutions (pretty much the same thing), didnt manage to get that close to 2x performance improvements.
Oh yeah anything from 10 to 12 tf is amazing baseline for next gen . Can't wait till we have more info
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