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Next gen PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - Secret sauces spicing 2019
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Yeah I'm hyped about 8 cores @3.2Ghz.
GPU fears seem debunked. Would be strange if it was 1Ghz but it would still work out well. 8-10Tfs is still a good leap if a bit underwhelming
I'm expecting it to be 1.2Ghz tho.
100GB UHD discs, 4K everywhere (where applicable), 8 cores @3.2 and maybe 20ishGBs and 10TF+ sounds nice to this 1080p TV owner
Are we assuming the GPU will at least have 8GBs reserved for it more or less? Seems like it with the 8-11TF numbers.
If they put 8GB for GPU (in one large pool) than I doubt they do less than 8GB for system RAM, bringing total to 16GB before OS RAM, which would be at least 4GBs imo.
So 20GB pool of RAM minimum will be my estimate.
GPU fears seem debunked. Would be strange if it was 1Ghz but it would still work out well. 8-10Tfs is still a good leap if a bit underwhelming
I'm expecting it to be 1.2Ghz tho.
100GB UHD discs, 4K everywhere (where applicable), 8 cores @3.2 and maybe 20ishGBs and 10TF+ sounds nice to this 1080p TV owner
Are we assuming the GPU will at least have 8GBs reserved for it more or less? Seems like it with the 8-11TF numbers.
If they put 8GB for GPU (in one large pool) than I doubt they do less than 8GB for system RAM, bringing total to 16GB before OS RAM, which would be at least 4GBs imo.
So 20GB pool of RAM minimum will be my estimate.
I think it a case of: Speed, power, cost. Pick two. Or something like that.
Yeah, 8 core 3.2 Ghz CPU in a 399$ console box is really impressive.
Going from 1.6ghz crappy mobile Jaguar to 3.2ghz Ryzen will be like going from Yugo 45 to Ferrari😁
Ah. I mean, I'm really not concerned with the GPU in either of these consoles. Much more interested in the CPU and RAM, as those factors are really going to influence the nature of next-gen games, from AI complexity to world immersion and more.
I keep hearing this, and I believe it, but are there any estimations on just how much more capable they are? Like can say 5-8x PS4 (as an example, not a guess)?
about 4x. its double the speed, and roughly a 40% per clock perforce increase.
from what that i understand, estimations put it at around 5~6x the performance.
I would use this car (East German car Trabant) as the role model for Jag cores LOLJaguar CPU =
Also the Jaguar in the ps4/pro would use gpu resources to make up for the crappy cpu, with 3.2 Ryzen, not so much, so free up the gpu.
Yep it's the same class :DI would use this car (East German car Trabant) as the role model for Jag cores LOL
So... Anyone mind taking the consoles below and filling in some gaps for a reasonable "minimum" expectation on next-gen consoles? I didn't try to estimate CPU speeds and won't be offended if you tell me that I messed something up! I'm also going on the assumption that Lockhart/Anaconda will come in above and below the $399 PS5 to justify their specs.
Lockhart
- Ryzen CPU
- 6TF NAVI GPU
- 12GB GDDR6 RAM
- 1TB HDD
PS5
- Ryzen CPU
- 8TF NAVI GPU
- 16GB GDDR6 RAM
- 1TB SSHD
Anaconda
- Ryzen CPU
- 10TF NAVI GPU
- 16-20GB GDDR6 RAM
- 1TB SSD
Lockhart
- Ryzen CPU
- 6TF NAVI GPU
- 12GB GDDR6 RAM
- 1TB HDD
PS5
- Ryzen CPU
- 8TF NAVI GPU
- 16GB GDDR6 RAM
- 1TB SSHD
Anaconda
- Ryzen CPU
- 10TF NAVI GPU
- 16-20GB GDDR6 RAM
- 1TB SSD
yup that seems aboyut right, could see Anaconda with a bit higher gpu, but otherwise yup.
I might stick with Nintendo for next gen if Sony/MS comes out with 8-10TF machines. X1X will have to do for traditional consoles.
Oh...I thought something else had happened.
I doubt we get anything from the insiders here until after a big press article or official info at this point :(
Only 2 SKUs explains 8tf PS5.
8tf Base PS5 at 399$
14tf PS5 Pro at 499$
And this is a pretty bad decision to make.
8tf Base PS5 at 399$
14tf PS5 Pro at 499$
And this is a pretty bad decision to make.
I've been thinking 20GB with 16GB for games for awhile for realistic expectations.
Could be 16GB with 12GB for games too. I'm just trying to stay realistic and just be surprised by anything more.
8C 3.2GHz Zen2 and 8-10TF Navi box will be great next gen gaming machine.
The thing is with these specs, what's going to be point in adding more specs on anaconda?
The pro and the 1x had specific things which justified why they were more expensive.
But unless there is a specific thing, a more expensive console seems pointless.
If MS are going just for a small spec boost just to be the big dick, they would probably just have like an SSD and 2 more 2flops for $50 more.
If they are going to charge $100 more it has to be for something substantial.
image from page..nice
I found the CPU codes for ps4 and Xbox One
PS4: DG1000FGF84HT
PS4 Pro: DG1201SLF87HW
Xbox one: DG3001FEG84HR
Xbox one S: DG4001FYG87IA
Anubis SoC: 1G5211T8A87E9
Leak: 2G16002CE8JA2
So I'm not even sure this SoC is for console and even if it is the case it is very difficult to decode as each company code differently.
I think for those disappointed in these specs will calm down when they see games.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/deducing-ps5-gpu-and-memory-via-math.37594/
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It seems to me that bunch of people here have totally unrealistic expectations and will end up disappointed when we get official specs.
There is absolutely no need for that.We will get great gaming machines.
I don't see Lockhart having less RAM. RAM is one of those things that has a huge effect on game development, and would cause development issues for games if one of Microsoft's console has 12 GB while the PS5 and Microsoft's other console have more.
If Lockhart is the stripped down unit, I see CPU and RAM being the same as the PS5 and Anaconda. I'm guessing the cost savings will occur with the weaker GPU, smaller/slower hard drive, and possibly the absence of a disc drive.
There's literally nothing in the leak that says the GPU will be 8TF. Even if the clock speed is 1GHz, the CU count is unknown. We also don't have a lot of info on Navi in general, so it's really early to start making any sort of performance claims based on an unconfirmed clock speed.
Unless patcher is right and the pro becomes the new base.
or, that the PS5 is 10TF @399$ and 14TF was never even possible ;p
It's probably Sony,semi custom design,see the tweets Anex and i posted earlier today.
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Still hopeful for a 12TF GPU for a fall 2020 release.
The CPU jump is certainly better than I anticipated though.
I'm guessing we're also looking at 16GB GDDR6..
The CPU jump is certainly better than I anticipated though.
I'm guessing we're also looking at 16GB GDDR6..
Not quite following here. 8TF because of a 4.2TF Pro?
Also, Sony has been quite clear on the necessities of generational leaps and the concept of generations so I doubt that PS4 Pro with jaguar could be the base for next gen for them.
Thanks!
There are some weird reactions going around in this thread right now. I think expecting PS5 to be an 8TF machine is a good way to level expectations. If it comes in higher, that's great! It shouldn't come in lower, so that's also great! As always, the games are most important here and FLOP count isn't the only factor here.
I mean its unlikely it will be 8tflop.
I think it will be min of 10tflops.
The patcher comment was in jest, because he gets so much wrong.
On a side note.
Has anyone considered MS might do
Lockhart
6tflop gpu
8 core zen
12gb gddr6
$299
PS5
10TFLOP gpu
8 core zen
16gb gddr6
$399
Anaconda
10tflop gpu
8core zen
16gddr6
$399?
I think scarlett will be 12TF, 1TB SSD, and possibly more RAM.
Honestly, this scenario is definitely worth considering. I think most (myself included) assume that Microsoft is pleased with the results of the One X at $499 and will do whatever is feasible with a box in that price range. As a result, we're estimating higher on specs. In theory though, you have a good point about Microsoft not necessarily getting more performance out of an extra $100 on MSRP at launch. The One X needed an extra year in the oven over PS4 Pro as well as some heavy customization to make that price worth it.
There's also the fact that next-gen is a chance for Microsoft to win back some marketshare. So it doesn't seem crazy that they'd try to hit a reasonable price on both models.
But what would be the point in adding more ram when it's only 2tflops more?
And what is the goal of adding more RAM and a SSD?
If its $50 more then I get it, but if its $100 its got to have some higher purpose.
higher profit. and they can make it look more premium console. the fact MS went for a multiple sku approach in the first place made it seem like they are not really interested in subsidizing a whole lot.
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