We need an Update ASAP!Time to repost my baseline prediction. Revision only contains bug fixes. Please don't ask why Anaconda and PS5 are of the same specs, these are baselines and they can be slightly different ...
We need an Update ASAP!Time to repost my baseline prediction. Revision only contains bug fixes. Please don't ask why Anaconda and PS5 are of the same specs, these are baselines and they can be slightly different ...
I agree, but at the same time, it would have been fun to think that was a possibility only to have the specs announced on stage. Now 11 TFs will seem disapointing.FInally, death to not only 8Teraflopers, but to 10Teraflopers as well, ho ho ho
Not happening. It's 2020 for sure.
I've also been telling all of you next gen wouldn't be in 2019 for over a year. I got basically chased out of these threads because of it.
Hopefully people can be more reasonable moving forward.
Look, as I've been saying since roughly March 2018 (in this very thread), next-gen is coming in 2020. That Semiaccurate article saying 2018 (lol) got people's hopes up for 2019, but by now I hope it's clear that the PS5 ain't coming out this fall.
And, despite all the rumors about devkits being out (usually from rumormongers who are wrong more often than not), the number of people briefed on next-gen is still very limited. Even within companies like, say, DICE, there'll be a small team of engineers who now have a rough idea of specs, and everyone else will know when they need to know. Not a lot of devs are disclosed on next-gen right now.
In other words, don't expect much in the way of substantial leakage just yet. The only thing to know for sure is that both Sony and Microsoft are aiming higher than that "10.7 teraflops" number that Google threw out last week. (And, as has been reported, Microsoft's got a few things in the works.)
I've also been telling all of you next gen wouldn't be in 2019 for over a year. I got basically chased out of these threads because of it.
Hopefully people can be more reasonable moving forward.
I agree, but at the same time, it would have been fun to think that was a possibility only to have the specs announced on stage. Now 11 TFs will seem disapointing.
Ah really was that recently? Nice didn't realize
Time fly's when your building a Twitter / YouTube
Opinion of first half of 2020?I've also been telling all of you next gen wouldn't be in 2019 for over a year. I got basically chased out of these threads because of it.
Hopefully people can be more reasonable moving forward.
Kinda making me rethink this dismissal of the 14TF rumours.in my opinion, the range for the PS5 based on current information is probably 11TF to 14TF, which is a much smaller range than we had before
the right edge of the screen is not filled while the left edge is, yea i will call it fake.
FInally, death to not only 8Teraflopers, but to 10Teraflopers as well, ho ho ho
jason already debunked it by now.It's almost certainly a cgi render. It definitely does seem cool though.
I don't see it coming H1 if dev kits aren't prevalent yet. Unless they're expecting everyone to build to-spec PCs.Well again something I've also been saying for a long while, as Jason just said, is that dev kits aren't widely out there. There is a chunk of next gen games in development but the specifics still aren't widely out there.
So its possible first half I guess. I still expect PS5 reveal late this year as well as other reveals. But no idea when in 2020 these are coming. No idea at all
If PS5 is 2020 then no way will there be a reveal or even a tease of a reveal this year IMO. That goes against everything Sony have been moving towards (Apple-like short reveal/release). If they do then it points to them being shook by the competition.
Look, as I've been saying since roughly March 2018 (in this very thread), next-gen is coming in 2020. That Semiaccurate article saying 2018 (lol) got people's hopes up for 2019, but by now I hope it's clear that the PS5 ain't coming out this fall.
And, despite all the rumors about devkits being out (usually from rumormongers who are wrong more often than not), the number of people briefed on next-gen is still very limited. Even within companies like, say, DICE, there'll be a small team of engineers who now have a rough idea of specs, and everyone else will know when they need to know. Not a lot of devs are disclosed on next-gen right now.
In other words, don't expect much in the way of substantial leakage just yet. The only thing to know for sure is that both Sony and Microsoft are aiming higher than that "10.7 teraflops" number that Google threw out last week. (And, as has been reported, Microsoft's got a few things in the works.)
Any reasonable person would have thought of 2020.Ah really was that recently? Nice didn't realize
Time fly's when your building a Twitter / YouTube
The bigger question IMO is how many platforms people are going to have to ship on. Last generation's cross-platform games had to ship on five -- PS3, 360, PS4, XB1, PC -- which made people miserable and led to a lot of sacrifices. Now that number's getting even bigger thanks to mid-gen hardware refreshes and cloud platforms. That's what I think is ultimately going to hamper AAA games, not hardware restrictions.
If PS5 is 2020 then no way will there be a reveal or even a tease of a reveal this year IMO. That goes against everything Sony have been moving towards (Apple-like short reveal/release). If they do then it points to them being shook by the competition.
Well again something I've also been saying for a long while, as Jason just said, is that dev kits aren't widely out there. There is a chunk of next gen games in development but the specifics still aren't widely out there.
So its possible first half I guess. I still expect PS5 reveal late this year as well as other reveals. But no idea when in 2020 these are coming. No idea at all
I agree with this, cross-gen titles are going to be terrible.
Imagine a developer having to make a PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5, Xbox One S, Xbox One X and Next Xbox versions + PC version day and date.
This is going to be a mess.
I've been saying that PS5 will be bare minimum twice as powerful as the One X.
Zhuge told us in December,i think, that dev kits are out and that devs praised them,to paraphrase.
I don't see it coming H1 if dev kits aren't prevalent yet. Unless they're expecting everyone to build to-spec PCs.
he said that in the sony first party thread let me check.I'd like to see the post if anyone can link it.
Again, I'm not saying dev kits don't exist. I've also commented for a very long while now there are numerous next gen games in development. But if every major studio had a PS5 dev kit none of you would need to sit here and theorize on anything. It would all leak.
PS5 dev kits are out there and I've heard positive things about it. But I wouldn't expect any information in the immediate future.
Well again something I've also been saying for a long while, as Jason just said, is that dev kits aren't widely out there. There is a chunk of next gen games in development but the specifics still aren't widely out there.
So its possible first half I guess. I still expect PS5 reveal late this year as well as other reveals. But no idea when in 2020 these are coming. No idea at all
I think the big question is if the hardware going forward is going to mitigate this by making it much more PC-like? If the rumors are true and the PS5 is natively BC with the PS4, uses iterative hardware, and uses an iterative API theoretically it should be no harder to make games for PS4, PS4 Pro, and PS5 than making games work for multiple different PC configurations.This is why I don't post here often: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ru...aiming-higher-than-10-7-teraflops-gpu.107952/
Anyway, I don't know for sure what next-gen specs will look like. I have no idea how many teraflops there'll be. A dev recently told me that a lot of people within studios are just making assumptions based on limited information, and that one of the assumptions is that everything's going to be twice as powerful.
The bigger question IMO is how many platforms people are going to have to ship on. Last generation's cross-platform games had to ship on five -- PS3, 360, PS4, XB1, PC -- which made people miserable and led to a lot of sacrifices. Now that number's getting even bigger thanks to mid-gen hardware refreshes and cloud platforms. That's what I think is ultimately going to hamper AAA games, not hardware restrictions.
They will reveal this year if they're releasing it early 2020, imo.
Look, as I've been saying since roughly March 2018 (in this very thread), next-gen is coming in 2020. That Semiaccurate article saying 2018 (lol) got people's hopes up for 2019, but by now I hope it's clear that the PS5 ain't coming out this fall.
And, despite all the rumors about devkits being out (usually from rumormongers who are wrong more often than not), the number of people briefed on next-gen is still very limited. Even within companies like, say, DICE, there'll be a small team of engineers who now have a rough idea of specs, and everyone else will know when they need to know. Not a lot of devs are disclosed on next-gen right now.
In other words, don't expect much in the way of substantial leakage just yet. The only thing to know for sure is that both Sony and Microsoft are aiming higher than that "10.7 teraflops" number that Google threw out last week. (And, as has been reported, Microsoft's got a few things in the works.)
they are probably using PCs, you dont need dev kits too far away from launch as long as you have the SDK and the architecture between the two generations isnt really that different.I don't understand.
If they come out around Nov 2020.
How are devs going to make games for them if they don't have dev kits?
It's only 19months until Nov 2020 that is not long for developers to make games.
they are probably using PCs, you dont need dev kits too far away from launch as long as you have the SDK and the architecture between the two generations isnt really that different.
By 2020 the One X will be pushing down to $299. It's already $399 with a game bundled, 20 months later it'll be ~$299 if you got rid of the game. PS5 can get to $399, margins will be very short but that's normal near launch.Be ready for a 499$ console if that's true, i highly doubt that a console 2 times more powerful than One X will cost less than that in 2020.