Oh probably we will hear of the most powerful console of the next gen ..you know ?
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread - MY ANACONDA DON'T WANT NONE
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Until ps5 is announced 👀 that's all I can say
I know nothing
So stadia will show up in the MS press conference? That is some weird alliance.
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Funny enough, it would make this E3 the 4th in a row where MS says that better hardware is coming eventually, so please wait
What are you talking about the x is out there and is the most powerful console in the market......last e3 was the first time Spencer talked about next generation and how they want be the most powerful again
If at this e3 Ms go out saying they will have the most powerful console it will be 100% this time.....if they say nothing ...ps5 will be more powerful that's for sure
You must have been living under a rock from the past years. You avatar suits you.
Hyping the length of the show would be odd as last year MS had a 2hr slot as well. And I'm sure he knows it too.
I don't think them not saying anything will mean they don't have the most powerful console. It is just that they can't say it with certainty just yet. I've always been of the mind that those type of statements will come out once all the specs from both MS and Sony have been revealed and confirmed. Neither MS or Sony can say without a doubt they have the stronger console right now. Especially considering smaller changes can happen from now all the way to Nov 2020.
No, until we get both specs words don't mean much, after all they straight up were lying about the power difference before the launch of this gen.
E3 2016: Scorpio is coming, so please wait
E3 2017: The X is coming, so please wait
E3 2018: Next-gen is coming, so please wait
E3 2019 (?): Anaconda is coming, so please wait
To me, constantly talking about hardware coming soon, shows little confidence in what you are selling right now.
Could you please define "most powerful"? I've mentioned before but it's a pretty ambiguous statement. For example, would they have the most powerful console in terms of CPU, GPU, RAM amount and/or speed, SSD tech, raytracing implementation, something else? Some of those things? All of those things? So even if MS were to make that statement, how do we know what aspects they're referring to until we get specs for both consoles?
It's really not much of a leap to assume Benji knows some developers and/or has some non-sales industry contacts.
Both Jason Schreier and Benji have been pretty reasonable over the last year or so, yet seem to attract a bizarre undercurrent of real hostility in here.
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Agree, except that the words they use at E3 are definitely of interest.
Whatever you're up to here, it would be nice if you'd stop.
I've no idea where you're seeing hostility, is it not okay to question these statements?
They will just say the same statement they did before of "setting the benchmark" or whatever that is not explicit about its meaning.
And in general you put way too much faith into PR that can be interpreted in multiple ways (what does most powerful mean? Highest TF? Best effective performance in game? Fastest CPU? Fastest memory?)
Seems like both of us had the same thought haha. There are just too many ways to spin "most powerful" that the statement is meaningless.
You know what statement cannot be spinned in comparision? What cerny said in the wired article "higher bandwidth than any ssd on the market right now", that is a clear goal that is measurable, and why i found it easier to instantly take than MS's.
X is the strongest and they have made those statements, but they have never really gone into the specifics that make it the case (i.e, "our TF number is the highest"). They'll probably just keep it vague. I think keeping it simple works well with the broader audience.
I would keep hype in check. Gears 5 + Ori 2 + Halo: Infinite + FH4 DLC + Ninja Theory's new IP + 3rd Party announcements like From Software and Rocksteady would already make for a hell of a conference. And possibly MS's best of this gen.
Well that's my point. My guess has always been that Anaconda will have some aspects in which it's superior to the PS5, and the PS5 will have some aspects in which it's superior to Anaconda. That's why declaring "most powerful console" is ambiguous because we won't know in what way it will be the most powerful.
Right, that is what I was saying with the X/Pro. What specifically gives MS the ability to call it the strongest? It has never been examined. We just roll with it.
It'll be more of the same next gen.
Agreed that the clocks speeds and CU counts look saner than usual for rumors, but the Anaconda 3DMark score being more than double the Lockhart score? With less than double the theoretical peak performance and the same type of RAM? I don't think so. Not to mention doubling down on the power of the cloud to help boost local performance, which would rightfully draw immediate mockery. There may yet be some value out of server-side assistance but I don't think we'll see some buzzword branded pitch day one after what we saw this generation unless their marketing folks are utterly tone deaf.
and whatever each consoles secret sauce is will be proclaimed as the BIG DEAL for each side in the great console war of next gen. its already begun by the way!
Vega64 is a low volume product. Getting binned chips would be easier for a few hundred thousand cards vs several million consoles.
All these pastebin leaks, they are anonymous and anyone can post anything so I wouldn't take anything from there very seriously. This is the best one I've seen from pastebin and even this one has some weird stuff in it, so I wouldn't take anything seriously:
GN saying to temper expectations regarding the kind of info we're getting tonight. Full blowout, including clocks, cache, etc. is coming at E3. Just popped up on my phone, so I'm just relaying what I've seen of the first couple minutes.
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Folks, let's take a deep breath. I know. I know. Just for our own sake alright? Just a few times
Lol I mean full specs
That's not how this works lol
That MS has recently mostly talked about hardware it will release rather than what it has released shouldn't be a surprise.
It doesn't even need to be a negative!
It shows they're forward-thinking and committed to the console business, at a time when some where doubting that commitment.
However, speaking strictly as an OG Xbox One owner, and as someone who hasn't bought much into their ecosystem, it's been a bit frustrating.
Can't blame me for trying!
Apologies. I thought you were being disingenuous and trying to stir the thread up
cmon guys ... for decades we have (albeit i admit superficially) based on teraflops to quantify the power of a console ... the next generation will be the same.
I am still convinced that microsoft will release a console with the highest BOM of the 2 ... and that therefore Sony has a 399 console with some surprise attached to it. Honestly after Cerny's interview, I think that Sony will have the upper hand on the speed of the storage solution.
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That set of specs is completely reasonable. If it's fake, it's probably someone who reads threads like these for realistic expectations.
I know exactly what you mean... but I hadn't seen anyone post anything and it seemed to have more to it than the comedy ones people were posting so I thought it might be worth bringing up. as for your one they seem interesting. a bit too detailed... but interesting. I did think MS will go with the SSD cache + HDD split and then use the tech they talked about for download prioritisation as the basis for managing what gets moved from HDD to SSD for play.
Also Xbox Infinite & Infinite Value do seem like the kind of zany PR names MS would come up with...
Hmm. Was gonna call fake because of the storage setups but then the details does seems like something MS would do 🤔. Would be very smart if it works as intended.
We were talking about what MS/Sony use. They have never really been specific though. They only just say "strongest".
Personally, I think Xbox will have a Sku with a power advantage over PS5, but I wouldn't read too much into any statement they make about power at E3.
Sony was still selling the Pro recently as
"the world's most powerful console*"
"*as of 2016"
There doesn't seem to be much of a downside in claiming you have the most powerful hardware, regardless whether that's sure to be the case.
Sony was still selling the Pro recently as
"the world's most powerful console*"
"*as of 2016"
There doesn't seem to be much of a downside in claiming you have the most powerful hardware, regardless whether that's sure to be the case.
Anyone reading this thread or with a passing knowledge of computer architecture and the upcoming and roadmap, could post plausible pastebins.
Which means for the moment I'm not really believing any of them, there would have to be some additional thing (like the Sony event pictures of the reddit leak for example) to corroborate them to give me reason to.
Yeah, maybe the best one I've seen but as every pastebin post, it's meaningless without someone respectable standing behind it.
Btw this aligns very close to that detailed supposed leak for anaconda that was handwritten on pieace of paper
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