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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread - MY ANACONDA DON'T WANT NONE
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There's a 2TF chip in the controller that linearly combines in power with the PS5 GPU when connected via USB.
Sony going have to pack one of these bad boys in with every ps5
A child? I doubt that will help in all markets.
Since they're experts at draining energy, perhaps that is Sony's revolutionary new cooling system for PS5.
lol never ends . watch in 2 days we get another leak that puts everyone back in 13 TF camp.to be back to 8 TF few days after that .this cycle needs to be stopped lol
You know what else is computationally expensive? Raytracing...but we're getting that too.
DirectML and Super Resolution solution will be used for Lockhart . :)
if they both launch holiday 2020 and at 499 then ofcourse .they will be close as they are both limited to AMD
The difference is reconstruction techniques are meant to reach higher resolution with inferior hardware. Ray tracing is aimed at having much more accurately looking games.
The thing with Lockhart is that DF boss Richard Leadbetter explicitly said recently that he thinks it will be ~ 4TF and if that turns out to be true we have to lower PS5 and Anaconda expectations comparing to what you suggested.
Btw,i agree with your pricing range: 299-399-499.
You have no idea of how much meltdowns would generate an output like this ahhah
Well said.
Maybe the only "significant' gain with Navi just comes down to its process node. Basically making 10-12Tf available at a much lower TDP by AMD standards. I mean from the chart they seem to be able to make 11TF+ available at as little as 175W. Three years ago they needed a little over 200W to hit about half that. That's gotta count for something right?
Please reread what I wrote in which why I compared the two.
*hint* I know the difference between the two
While I don't expect any Xbox specific news out of it, the info starved may find it of minimal interest that the Microsoft Build conference in Seattle for developers starts tomorrow and runs through Wednesday. Given that some of the technologies such as DirectML being talked about in this thread are applicable to the PC platform or even Azure cloud related technology, there may be a couple of interesting things come out of this.
Your mind is in the right place. You'll get more out of the sessions in relation to DirectML (I haven't seen any so far...but I haven't looked today) and DXR during the conference. Plus, I watch build each year. :D
I am saying that comparing a reconstruction technique to ray tracing is wrong.
Like i said its all based on my limited knowledge if its all possible. Just thinking about more logically about it. Still think Sony wants that 399 pricepoint. It did wonders for them and they said many times i believe its the sweetspot. MS isnt "scared" of putting down a 499 price and Spencer said and showed they want to be the brand of performance leader. Then you have lockhart wich needs to be a step away from Anaconda price wise and it needs to be a step up from X also TF wise imo. Even if the CPU and ram is already a step up. I simply cant believe MS putting a 4TF machine out.
This is all more gut feeling then knowing the ins and outs of how the specs work etc.
Yes i understand your points ) well all in all if it end like that......Ms would be very...very happy
I wholeheartedly disagree...they are both computationally intensive tasks...which was the reasoning for the "downplay" of using DirectML in what I quoted. The same could be said about raytracing which is computationally intensive and people thought it wasn't going to be in the next gen consoles (I thought it was) and here we are. Same type of scenario...hence the comparison. Like I said, reread what I wrote...
This session may have some DirectML info it looks like - https://mybuild.techcommunity.microsoft.com/sessions/77010?source=sessions
OMG..... that was amazing. Awesome start to my morning lol. I didn't even notice the numbers on the fighting holograms at first.
Yes you do. Considering the huge impact of ray tracing in performance, people should temper their expectations here.
That next console will support Ray Tracing is a given. To what extent is a different matter here.
I know that DirectX Raytracing will be supported on the next xbox console. I don't need temper my expectation of that because that's been my expectation for the past year.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong...I don't get "let down" if something doesn't happen.
Don't believe anything about graphene without a plan to scale to production.
E.g. TSMC will actually use graphene in small amounts on 5nm.
https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/8149-2019-tsmc-technology-symposium-review-part-i.html
the gifs have become my favorite parts of the next gen threads by now, amazing job haha.
If the desired graphical features were possible in naive 4K you would be crazy to want cb. Given the hardware limitations it made sense for the games listed above to employ checherboarding. The problem with checkboard begging about next gen is that we don't know what the hardware capabilities or what efficiencies will come about. It may not be as necessary to cb while still getting great results. We just don't know yet.
There's no way the gap will be that large between Snek and PS5. This place would be a warzone if that happened.
Bwahaha!
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thats around 25% difference . many fans mention 45% difference between PS5 and anaconda.I said 15 to 20%
so 25% isnt that much more(comapred to 20% that i expect) vs the 45 % that some fans suggest
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