That would be the acquisitions lol but ball park should be correct
That would be the acquisitions lol but ball park should be correct
It's a very detailed one with full specs and even the dev kit specsI don't even know about that one. As I said we need a table with unique identifiers now LOL
The source of it was what? Pastebin, Reddit or 4Chan? Do you have a link (to a link)?It's a very detailed one with full specs and even the dev kit specs
Can you post it?It's a very detailed one with full specs and even the dev kit specs
I reiterate on my expectation that some people might be massively disappointed in next-gen specs. I don't think we are looking at underperforming devices - SDD and CPU alone will grant a huge upgrade -, but man, some of the expectations I'm reading are just ... They are just not possible for a consumer device in the range of $300 - $500. Xbox One X and PS4 Pro may have spoiled people a bit here. We'll see I guess. Looking forward to some confirmed hard numbers myself.
The source of it was what? Pastebin, Reddit or 4Chan? Do you have a link (to a link)?
Yea it was posted here before .I LL find it in 2 min
well to be fair people were talking about 13-14 TF consoles.
Maybe 12 is the absolute limit. Also RT probably not as impressive for next gen consoles as we want it to be.
I reiterate on my expectation that some people might be massively disappointed in next-gen specs. I don't think we are looking at underperforming devices - SDD and CPU alone will grant a huge upgrade -, but man, some of the expectations I'm reading are just ... They are just not possible for a consumer device in the range of $300 - $500. Xbox One X and PS4 Pro may have spoiled people a bit here. We'll see I guess. Looking forward to some confirmed hard numbers myself.
I reiterate on my expectation that some people might be massively disappointed in next-gen specs. I don't think we are looking at underperforming devices - SDD and CPU alone will grant a huge upgrade -, but man, some of the expectations I'm reading are just ... They are just not possible for a consumer device in the range of $300 - $500. Xbox One X and PS4 Pro may have spoiled people a bit here. We'll see I guess. Looking forward to some confirmed hard numbers myself.
That one I knew but I supposed it to be fake because of the RCC part (extra RT cores just like Turing)
I think I saw a scribble next to the pisser in bar bathroom about nextgen that looked more credible than this.
Well performance leader could mean better cpu and not necessarily gpuI agree.
I think Anaconda tops out around here:
Let the performance leader back peddling begin - or has it already started?
- Anaconda - 11.3 TF - 60 CUs @ 1475 - 499
Not in the console business :pWell performance leader could mean better cpu and not necessarily gpu
Do you know the specs of next gen ?I think I saw a scribble next to the pisser in bar bathroom about nextgen that looked more credible than this.
You people may need to calm down with these... uh.............................. yeah.
The idea of a next gen console not being at least double the 'power' of one in the current gen is ... well, disappointing.
why are you looking at the one though? you should be setting expectations based on the base consoles that released in 2013. not the fancy $500 console released in 2017.The idea of a next gen console not being at least double the 'power' of one in the previous gen is ... well, disappointing.
I think I saw a scribble next to the pisser in bar bathroom about nextgen that looked more credible than this.
You people may need to calm down with these... uh.............................. yeah.
If MS keeps up the performance leader talk and only has one or two components that are "performance leaders" which doesn't translate into better visuals...they will get eaten alive.Well performance leader could mean better cpu and not necessarily gpu
The post can't be legit because of all these ridiculous acquisitions alone. Isn't that ... Quite obvious? :P
The specs can still be in the correct range of course, but that's more of an educated guess I feel like.
But if u noticed they never used the term most powerful console term like they did with x .they used the term performace leader .which could mean many things . But I understand backlash will be big if that happensWait, so random 4chan and reddit leaks are credible???
If MS keeps up the performance leader talk and only has one or two components that are "performance leaders" which doesn't translate into better visuals...they will get eaten alive.
Well performance leader could mean better cpu and not necessarily gpu
Can you answer the next part that I added into my last post lolI think if you make a bold statement like "performance leader" then your potential customers are expecting you to be an outright winner.
No ifs, or buts.
If you don't achieve that, what is the reason for that SKU to exist any longer? Performance was the USP.
Then the message changes to "the best way to play MS exclusives for the power user" or some other snake oil.
The idea of a next gen console not being at least double the 'power' of one in the current gen is ... well, disappointing.
You hit on this, but I feel like a lot of people are looking the at the mid gen consoles as the base consoles and expecting the next gen consoles to significantly outperform them. I often have to remind myself that's not the case lol. The x1x will only be three years old when the anaconda launches. There were eight years between the launch of the 360 and the x1.
Yeah definitely. I hope no one takes it seriously.The post can't be legit because of all these ridiculous acquisitions alone. Isn't that ... Quite obvious? :P
The specs can still be in the correct range of course, but that's more of an educated guess I feel like.
who writes 1 like a ^?
Well performance leader could mean better cpu and not necessarily gpu
Btw u seem way too confident .do you know something ? Since u work in video game development business and all maybe u like to tell us what u know lol
Morning ladies and gents.
So on one hand we have the tuned PS5 pumping out 12.9 TF and the other the Anaconda with it's "go wider(assume 60CUs) and slower(assume ~1500 clock)" at 11.5TF because it's higher spec vanilla components lumped together with less finesse.
Where does this leave the MS marketing strategy? It has the cheapest weakest box (Lockhart) and also the most expensive weaker box (Anaconda). So the corporate aspirational 'halo effect' they were gunning for is tarnished. A key marketing pillar would be crumbling.
Is this where we see MS pivot away from performance leader statements? Or will they continue with the same strategy and hope that Sony ultimately reveal a weaker box than them? Which could blow up in their face.
I think we'll see MS shift the narrative away from TF and power, they can't take the risk that they unveil a dud. Edit: So if the focus isn't power, it must be content(games), right? Where they will struggle. Or will they push strong on services angle? But who cares about the services when the games are lacking?
So in your opinion do you think there's no way they've been in some form of talks with the studios listed even if most of the talks ended up going nowhere?The post can't be legit because of all these ridiculous acquisitions alone. Isn't that ... Quite obvious? :P
The specs can still be in the correct range of course, but that's more of an educated guess I feel like.
How has the narrative changed?I haven't worked in video games for a long time.
But just like everyone else, I have common sense and can draw my own conclusions rather than relying on being spoon fed information.
I sign posted this would happen a week ago but people were too busy shit posting to take any notice:
You hit on this, but I feel like a lot of people are looking the at the mid gen consoles as the base consoles and expecting the next gen consoles to significantly outperform them. I often have to remind myself that's not the case lol. The x1x will only be three years old when the anaconda launches. There were eight years between the launch of the 360 and the x1.
I personally expect the prices to be $299 (or $349) - $399 - $499. I don't know this. It's my prediction though.I have updated my prediction. Changed it from baseline to ballpark and updated the specs of all consoles based on some discussions and information available. Variance reduced to +/- 5%.
Prediction
Prices are the weak point of my prediction as they are not only decided on cost but other factors too. $399 and $499 are Safe Points.I personally expect the prices to be $299 (or $349) - $399 - $499. I don't know this. It's my prediction though.
I think once raytracing comes to consoles we will start seeing very creative ways of implementing it. Like running it at quarter rez and upscaling the results onto a 4k frame....Think the next batch of ray tracing demos will be painful to look at, knowing it would probably run at 15fps on next gen consoles.
Prices are the weak point of my prediction as they are not only decided on cost but other factors too. $399 and $499 are Safe Points.
Silly question, but what are the other benefits of SSDs in next-gen consoles other than super fast load times? I ask because I've heard some say that this and the new CPUs are the most important things about next-gen console specs.
That is really common in Europe, took me some time to get used to | as a one in the US.... a one has a nose -> 1
Prices are the weak point of my prediction as they are not only decided on cost but other factors too. $399 and $499 are Safe Points.
I think if you make a bold statement like "performance leader" then your potential customers are expecting you to be an outright winner.
No ifs, or buts.
If you don't achieve that, what is the reason for that SKU to exist any longer? Performance was the USP.
Then the message changes to "the best way to play MS exclusives for the power user" or some other snake oil.
Yes, I'd imagine things are still undecided on price at MS after the performance wake up call.
If MS have now realised they can't compete on power at the top end, the only other lever they can pull on is price. Exclusives are too far out to try and lure people in with and MS does not have a history of delivering on their promises in that regard.
Can you imagine going in with lower specs and being more expensive, again?!
I think this is where it gets really interesting.
MS will not want to cut the price too deeply. But PlayStation is a huge part of their business and Sony won't just roll over on price (I already assume Sony will go 399).
High specs, price wars. Either way it should be great for consumers...
Yes, I'd imagine things are still undecided on price at MS after the performance wake up call.
If MS have now realised they can't compete on power at the top end, the only other lever they can pull on is price. Exclusives are too far out to try and lure people in with and MS does not have a history of delivering on their promises in that regard.
Can you imagine going in with lower specs and being more expensive, again?!
I think this is where it gets really interesting.
MS will not want to cut the price too deeply. But PlayStation is a huge part of their business and won't just roll over on price (I already assume Sony will go 399).
High specs, price wars. Either way it should be great for consumers...
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Think the next batch of ray tracing demos will be painful to look at, knowing it would probably run at 15fps on next gen consoles.