Bingo. They said the game is being revealed soon and that it was initially delayed, so any changes were done some time ago by implication.
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Which is why I want the full specs. I don't need to see games. Just give me the hard facts, cause I can't take this insane rollercoaster of unpredictability much longer.
Here's a thought and I don't mean it as a personal insult but really something to get your mind off this. Find what's important in your life and cherish it, spend time with it/them. At the end of the day, what's inside a damn piece of plastic isn't going to dictate your life
that would be pointless. Everyone says 9.2tf and 12tf are exactly the same and an unnoticeable difference.
it's not a V shape. it's a pyramid shape. it's the Patriots. they have taken over Sony and they are reworking everything.
Goddamn it, I knew Kojima was behind the PS5 development somehow. Watch as Death Stranding 2 is the only game to achieve The Lion King 2019 graphics while every other game looks like Finding Nemo because Kojima is the only one who can use the secret sauce
On giantbombs latest demo derby there's a bit they are watching sims 2 PSP videos and Brad sarcastically jokes "just think soon you can play this on a ps5"
Several of them did. That's why we were already aware of a rumored delay of launch from 2019 to 2020.
I agree...until you need to press the buttons. The hard convex surfaces and placement of the Black and White pips are pretty bad.
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Random neutral post comprising of creation leveraging 8C/8T 1.6Ghz Jaguar and 1.84T GCN 1.0 Radeon GPU equivalent to something between Radeon 7850 and 7870, to cool our antsy jets down:
But Sony's doomed, Cerny's washed up, and Jim Ryan won't return our calls.Random neutral post comprising of creation leveraging 8C/8T 1.6Ghz Jaguar and 1.84T GCN 1.0 Radeon GPU equivalent to something between Radeon 7850 and 7870, to cool our antsy jets down:
Thank you.... Couple of things first....Was Shawn Layden really presenting e3 2014? I forgot.
Second, that was at the very beginning when the hardcore buy those systems. So of course 95% would be connected. Also don't forget the staggered release of PS4. I wonder what the number is now at when the price conscience consumer is included.
Random neutral post comprising of creation leveraging 8C/8T 1.6Ghz Jaguar and 1.84T GCN 1.0 Radeon GPU equivalent to something between Radeon 7850 and 7870, to cool our antsy jets down:
This game looks insane especially towards the 2nd half. The Decima engine is legit.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the reason chiplets work in CPUs is that the cache is there to alleviate some of the latency issues caused by the multi chip design. With GPU chiplets, how would that work? We've got several years of multi GPU systems showing the inefficiencies of such design. This sounds like it would be a nightmare for devs.
If the texture filtering and draw distances were better, this game would easily pass off as an early PS5 game. PC version, save us!
Oh, ambient occlusion also felt somewhat lacking. HBAO+, where art thou?
Because he read the ridiculous 4chan leak on the bombcast recently.
even if the PS5's RT support is lacking, things like AO and shadows should be more than doable
I'm personally hoping for ray traced global illumination, but even if PS5 lacks the capabilities to pull it off, I'd be satisfied with ray traced shadows and ambient occlusion. Would go a long way in making a scene look more grounded and physically accurate.
6 months ago AMD was still testing the 36CU PS5 chip. If it had of reworked it to a 52CU or similar GGPUthey wouldnt be messing around with the old defunct chip. Sonys silence, to me, points towards them not ready to announce the specs as they are still working on the final clocks etc. Like I said before, I think they got caught out spec wise and have been spending alot of time trying to up the specs via clock increases. I think the may run with the full 40CU at this point, run the clocks to 2ghz, and take the L on cost with binning more dies that don't have full working CUs.
So I expect to see a 40 CU GPU running to as close to 2ghz as they can get it. A 10tflop machine.
I think RT shadows and AO combined with something like SVOGI would be appropriate for a console power envelope and would look really good.
Not upto date on the bombcasts yet to be fair so that explains it
8TF is the part of the 9.2TF rumor that gets swept under the rug.
The thing is for the 9,2TF rumor to exist, you have to clock a 36CU GPU at 2Ghz. Problem with that is that clocking a GPU that high would reduce your yields as most of your chips can't be locked at that clock as would typically be the case in consoles (making your chips more expensive) and the cooling solution you would need for that would also cost more.
Basically, if we are to take that leak seriously, then that must be the dev kit, and the console would be clocked at around 1.8Ghz, so you end up around 8.4TF.
Now the real crazy thing about that is that for that to happen(the 9.2TF thing), it would probably end up costing more building a console like that out than just putting in a bigger chip and using standard cooling.
But there is at least a silver lining, this could just mean Sony is aiming for a $399 box, or that for some reason sony lacks the funds to get a bigger chip instead. See? it makes sense in the end.
GI is gonna be one of those things that might be too much for console hardware, although companies already have tricks up their sleeve, like Control's solution, or Unity's
Jeff seems to pretty confidently shut it down by saying "i have my doubts." Maybe they've heard something? Lol we're really reaching today.
No, im prety sure it is cheaper in the long run to build a new gpu that to go for hail marie atemp like that.
maybe Albert Penello would be able to at least shed some knowledge on this hypothetical. which would be less expensive?
Dusk Golem statement on PS5 reworked:
So it's like Klee or Jason have said, Sony decided to change plans in 2017 or 2018.
So it's like Klee or Jason have said, Sony decided to change plans in 2017 or 2018.
Until we hear rumours from devs that there's a big gap, I'm going to assume the people doing calculations based on leaks are missing a piece of the puzzle.
Something is going to give before long one way or the other.
We only have 2 weeks to find out whose right and whose wrong. Invitations would be released by now if it's early Feb.
Wow....what did i step into... So much pessimism without practically knowing anything.....
It's time for some of you to go outside and see some sunshine
It's time for some of you to go outside and see some sunshine
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When MS was working on Scorpio, they had a 2016 version and a 2017 version. They ended up going for the 2017 in the end for the extra power. I would imagine Sony did the same for the PS5, have a 2019 plan and a 2020 plan, look at the what level of power and jump each console would provide and eventually decide.
What pressure??? All MS did was post a vid of their console giving people answers to their console and gave free promo to Sony. Now everyone is asking questions on a daily basis about the PS Xbox is mentioned to be skeptical about the PS's power but Sony is the mysterious one. I hear more speculations on PS games and dont hear crud about MS.
"Brute forces" GI, probably not. But a mixed of improvement on low level hardware API, software optimisation and tricks, will allow GI at some point throught console lifetime. And of course first party games.
Shadows are a minimum and just that will be such an improvement over this gen.
Well that pretty much settles that and does give us something to chew on. If Sony has originally started reworking the PS5 back in 2017-2018 for a 2020 release date, then why was AMD testing the chip all the way up until 6 months ago?
Am I the only one who thinks that MS supporting their old consoles for a year or two after launching XSX makes the launch of Lockhart unlikely in 2020?
Like, they already have cheaper alternatives on the market
Like, they already have cheaper alternatives on the market
Lockhart is for people who don't want to spend so much, but also want to keep getting games after the first couple of years. it's the futureproof option
Amen, the fact that we're even considering the possibility that the 9TF leak is true it's baffling imo
That's a very good question.
The more I think about it the more I hate their strategy of all first party games being cross gen. The expensive Series X and affordable Series S concept is great, but it's completely upended by the continued support of the XB1 consoles.
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