Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA

What do you think could be the memory setup of your preferred console, or one of the new consoles?


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Gamer17

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Oct 30, 2017
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No, go read the whole thread. Neither company is sharing specs for the simple reason specs can change easily.

Just take PS4, they started it with 2GB RAM target, upped it to 4. At the E3 the dev documentation still said 4 GB when they announced 8GB RAM on stage because things changed - in this case RAM prices crashed.
Gpu do.not change that easy due to tdp heat and many other reasons as changing going changes many things
 

Flutter

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Im gonna have fun lurking until people stop trying to argue about hypothetical console power.
 

Hnetuduft

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Oct 30, 2017
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Hopkins making a hard U-turn, I see.

It's looking likely the consoles will be pretty much equal in power. Now it comes down to games and services.
 

FF Seraphim

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People arguing about power now just seem insane to me. So if we assume both release holiday 2020, that probably means the consoles are not even finalized.
 

score01

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Yea the tone was definitely changed .either they r not sure anymore or ps5 is stronger imo
But didn’t they end with a ‘we eat monsters for breakfast’?

I thought that was a clear shot at Sony [ps5 is a monster leaks] as in they will be more powerful (as many of us have been expecting)
 

JahIthBer

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Take rumours with a grain of salt folks, there was about 50 things that didn't come true today.
I don't think Sony can make much of a better GPU, because AMD can't make a much bigger Navi fit in a SOC.

Instead we should be talking about if Scarlett has 24GB's of GDDR6 & DDR4??? cause otherwise some of that GDDR6 will be reversed for the system.
 

Matt

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Matt confirmed the reason Phil didn't share specs was the same as Sony's. I honestly don't know what that means. They don't have completely locked specs? Neither want to confirm specs first? *shrug*

Good to see you back around, Matt.
Because this shit isn’t locked yet, both parties are trying to outmaneuver each other, and anyone who tells you they know the answer to this question is lying to you, period.
 

Gamer17

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Hopkins making a hard U-turn, I see.

It's looking likely the consoles will be pretty much equal in power. Now it comes down to games and services.
He is having semi hard attack lol at least now we r allowed to say ps5 might be also powerful without him and Kaylee attacking us with 399 stick and 8tf lol
 

Burrman

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think scarlet will be more powerful but at this point there both gonna look beautiful. I’ll never not own every console ever again. Give me those fresh new boxes. It’s been long enough
 

Imerty

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I'm a total ignorant in terms of hardware, so I'll probably say something totally wrong, but for what I've read about the PS5 and saw today at Xbox's conference both consoles look like to be very similar spec-wise. What I really want is the PS5 to be a silent console. Really, I'm playing RDR 2 on my Pro and every time I pause the game and go back to it the sound it makes is similar to an Airbus taking off.
 

jroc74

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As far as insiders and most powerful console, I think we can lighten up a bit.

Aims to be and intended were mentioned, and some of y'all try to tell ppl this.

If anything, some posters shouldn't have took it as definitive, gospel. Everything is speculation until officially revealed.

Dismissing the PS5 as possibly being more powerful was interesting tho, lol.

We still don't know until the specs are officially revealed.
 

Oluasc

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cjn83

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Scarlet is probably 4x the X overall. Probably 4x CPU / 2x GPU / 2 x RAM / 4x RAM bandwidth / 8x HDD bandwidth.
He said "from a pure processing perspective" though??? I really don't know what to make of that. It surely can't mean 24 TF? A GPU at 10 TF with a low precision RT hardware part at 14 TF or... what?
 
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I see the back pedaling from certain people has already begun. What did people really think? These console will be nearly identical. There was never going to be this almighty Xbox conquering vastly superior console.

Some people are really gullible or blinded by corporate loyalty.
At this point in time no one knows for sure what will happen. Neither Sony or MS can claim most powerful console because they don’t know what the competition has. So at this point claiming you are the best and and not being in the end would hurt your brand more than being humble. Even if MS would have said 14TFlops of power we still wouldn’t know if that is better than what Sony has or not. The pictures showing the RAM at least kind of confirm 24GB of GDDR6 so it will be interesting to see if Sony matches that.

As for the Halo showing, game definitely looks great, and it is cross gen, although imo it looks ahead of what we’ve seen so far. This early in a gen it makes sense to release crossgen as fans will all buy Scarlet to play the definitive edition of the game, and with people on Xbox One it’ll most likely make the player pool huge and guarantee huge sales of the game / an insane amount of gamepass subscription.

Halo sold the OG Xbox, and it’ll guarantee early success of Scarlet at retail.
 

Gamer17

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Because this shit isn’t locked yet, both parties are trying to outmaneuver each other, and anyone who tells you they know the answer to this question is lying to you, period.
Thanks Matt for clearing but now we can at least suggest ps5 can also be powerful without being attacked by few MS fans and their 8tf stick haha
 

PJV3

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Because this shit isn’t locked yet, both parties are trying to outmaneuver each other, and anyone who tells you they know the answer to this question is lying to you, period.
I'm just happy the PS5 will be in the same ballpark, MS aren't going cheap by the looks of it, so it's all good.
 

Noctis114

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Both consoles are going to be the exact same specs, the only difference will be whatever MS/Sony want to over or under clock their consoles, just like this gen.
 

HStallion

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I'm pretty sure Mark Cerny recreated this famous Crash Bandicoot commercial but at MS' headquarters instead of Nintendos. He stood outside of the Scarlet design team's building with a megaphone just yelling the PS5's design specs and calling them out.

Hey Halo boys! Anaconda men! Your worst nightmare has arrived!
Pack up your stuff. I got a little surprise for ya right here! What do you think about that?
We've got ultra fast SSD. Powerful AMD chipsets.
How's that make ya feel buddies? Feeling like your days are numbered?
 

Andromeda

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Like Sony changed the ram in the PS4 I'd be surprised if things cannot be changed for a holiday 2020 release.

MS have more money than Sony so I just can't see them wanting to put out the less powerful console twice after what happened between the PS4 and Xbox One.
Yes. I expect MS to overclock their Scarlett GPU until they have a slight edge over PS5 GPU. They'll make a bigger box, put more money on the cooling and the PSU.
 

Gamer17

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So at least we can safely assume Sony isn't settling for 8tf console ? As Matt said they r both trying to outdo each other in the TF war games.

Good for us as gamers haha
 

napata

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970 despite being much smaller & cheaper to produce, it beat out the large $699 780 Ti.
Nope. Atleast not at launch, but Kepler aged badly.


1070 couldn't beat a 980 Ti because Maxwell had better clocks.
And nope.


Better clocks? What? Do you mean it OC'd better than Pascal because that's true but Maxwel doesn't have better clocks than Pascal.

Maxwell was pretty unusual. Such a jump on the same node didn't happen often in the past either. Most big performance jumps are from node jumps. The fact still remains that Pascal was a bigger jump in performance than Maxwell. Pascal was very impressive. It was a bigger jump than we've had in a long time. Bigger than 480 -> 580, bigger than 580 -> 680, bigger than 680 -> 780Ti & slightly bigger than 780Ti -> 980Ti.
 

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As far as insiders and most powerful console, I think we can lighten up a bit.

Aims to be and intended were mentioned, and some of y'all try to tell ppl this.

If anything, some posters shouldn't have took it as definitive, gospel. Everything is speculation until officially revealed.

Dismissing the PS5 as possibly being more powerful was interesting tho, lol.

We still don't know until the specs are officially revealed.
Especially when we’re so far away from their release date.
 

joe_zazen

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On 'not sharing numbers' - that harks back to the B3D post earlier in the day, suggesting that paper numbers for Navi are not the full story wrt performance, and are possibly not going to be very flattering by way of comparison between this gen and last. If that's true, that would be a good reason why both are numbers shy.

The reasoning is probably not necessarily quite so much about how they compare to each other.
If the consoles are less than 2X the tf of x1x, neither is going to use TF in marketing.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Who is Andrew reiner

Means nothing.

Look I have a tweet too.

Let's be honest dude, you're gonna agree with whoever says the console you prefer is going to be stronger. That's all this thread really is. Fact is none of you know and no one else knows 100 percent. That's why posting this type of stuff and taking it as fact is hilarious. It's fun to speculate, but when people take it and run with it as a guarantee is where it's a joke.

Just like people taking what "Insiders" in this very thread have said and running with it as a sure thing. I mean there's got to be some type of critical thinking at some point.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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That almost sounds like the two consoles will be closer thatn PS4 and Xbox One, it would be crazy if this thing was purely down to customization and management of clocks and thermals.
 

N.Domixis

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Oct 28, 2017
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This will balance the discussion. No more getting laughed at for suggesting ps5 could me stronger. Seems they’ll be very very close.