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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA
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Kind of like the pagefile in Windows only with some funky ssd magic to make it less of a speed issue I guess...
Make sense these consoles a while away and certain things can change .
Nope. Atleast not at launch, but Kepler aged badly.
And nope.
Better clocks? What? Do you mean it OC'd better than Pascal because that's true but Maxwel doesn't have better clocks than Pascal.
Maxwell was pretty unusual. Such a jump on the same node didn't happen often in the past either. Most big performance jumps are from node jumps. The fact still remains that Pascal was a bigger jump in performance than Maxwell. Pascal was very impressive. It was a bigger jump than we've had in a long time. Bigger than 480 -> 580, bigger than 580 -> 680, bigger than 680 -> 780Ti & slightly bigger than 780Ti -> 980Ti.
If the consoles are less than 2X the tf of x1x, neither is going to use TF in marketing.
Let's be honest dude, you're gonna agree with whoever says the console you prefer is going to be stronger. That's all this thread really is. Fact is none of you know and no one else knows 100 percent. That's why posting this type of stuff and taking it as fact is hilarious. It's fun to speculate, but when people take it and run with it as a guarantee is where it's a joke.
Just like people taking what "Insiders" in this very thread have said and running with it as a sure thing. I mean there's got to be some type of critical thinking at some point.
That almost sounds like the two consoles will be closer thatn PS4 and Xbox One, it would be crazy if this thing was purely down to customization and management of clocks and thermals.
I mean, just going off what MS said, I think it is more likely for them to be on par than opposite.
Right.
Who? Other than that guy whose post you tweeted, that clearly got his info from Kobrille's posts on Era.
No doubt this is the reason Sony no-showed at E3. Force MS to show their hand, real at least as much as Sony did for Wired.
Honestly, it was well played by MS, they could have done worse, and showed their hand, where Sony could then 1up them. Now we are back to a waiting game for specs.
Times like these I wonder what the conversation between Doctor Lisa Su and both parties individually is like. Trying to placate both parties that are aiming for highest realistic performance within (presumably) similar price points.
It would just muddy the waters. People want to hear about next gen because they care about powerful new hardware. And if you can't show games, then you can't show that Lockhart will look good too.
Remember Phil said "consoles" last year at E3 in reference to next gen.
I think we can put HBM2 to rest :p it's GDDR6 for everybody. HBM2 makes no sense for anything beside compute and scientific use cases. It's been evident it gives no advantage to AMD in gaming and the new Navi cards are shipping with GDDR6 as well. The poll is crazy :p
"This is Project Scarlett, the most powerful and highest-performing console we've ever designed" ps5 > anaconda confirmed ;)
It is very possible that is what it will comes down to if both going for the same price point .
Lets say $500.
OK if they just said the same things then you should be able to answer these simple questions about the PS5 specs. Not expectations or guesses but, actually official words from SIE or Cerney
Is the PS5 ray tracing that Cerney mentioned hardware or software based (or both)?
Is the :PS5 a heavily customized Ryzen 2, or just the standard a semi-customized CPU (APU) that consoles usually have , or just a standard Ryzen 2?
Is the PS5 memory GDDR6 or HBM2 based or some combo HBM2/DDR4 or GDDR6/DDR4?
Is that PS5 fast loading do to smaller cache based nNVMe configuration along with large full-on SSD or just a special designed drive or a some caching static drive with a standard drive?
I can answer them all after this E3 light reveal on the Scarlett but can you do the same about all Sony has confirmed about PS5? If you already knew about these answers it should be an easy quiz to pass, shouldn't it?
Make sense,yeah.
Do you think they might axe Lockhart completely as some people suggested?
You can't really do comparisons at launch due to less mature drivers
970>780 Ti
980 Ti>1070
1070 can't match an OC'd 980 Ti in 2019.
Yeah, makes sense. It is a bit of a shame they feel the need to outmaneuver each other these days as more than ever most people are committed to one or the others ecosystem and short of a massive difference in power or price, nothing is really going to change many minds.
Honestly, when they said, "4 times the power of X" and knowing that 24TF would simply be quite impossible within the bounds of console constraints, I was very, very confused as well.
you really pull the trigger fast xD
but on the topic both will be the same with different games
Lol false info ? I put the link to direct quote .I know u r upset but tomorrow u LL forget all about it ;)
Willing to bet the consoles will be close enough in power that any difference will be so small as to matter only to those that feel personally invested in DF analysis video victories.
Anaconda is apart of Scarlett? i thought they were different
Yep. They seem like twins from what has been revealed.
You the one who's upset, lol, having to make up stuff lol.
You said matt said PS5 is more powerful then scarlett, which he didn't.
Rmember when the PS4 was more powerful but people thought the Xbox One games looked better because the graphics popped more due to default high contrast settings?
Or when people claimed they couldn't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at the start?
And that was with a 30% difference. This time it will be pretty much on par, maybe a minimal power advantage but watch people jump at anything to make their electronic better.
Or when people claimed they couldn't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at the start?
And that was with a 30% difference. This time it will be pretty much on par, maybe a minimal power advantage but watch people jump at anything to make their electronic better.
What it means is that they performed same benchmark on both and Scarlett performed 4x better than X in that specific scenario. What exactly was that test? We have no idea.
Doesn't it draw less power and generate less heat? If these savings afford a GPU upclock that GDD6 doesn't afford that woukd make for a gaming advantage. I'm still noton board the HBM train but I'm looking at scenarios where one party can pull ahead and by whcih mean it can pull ahead.
Lol e3 did nothing but made it worse .at least before e3 I was more sure anacando will be stronger.now I m doubting everything haha
Would make technical discussion threads more interesting. And oh boy, if MS wasn't being as misleading with their HW RT comment as they were the "Four times X1X" comment, next gen is going to be great.
your post should be pinned Matt,
Just glad you can share your opinion back here. WB :)
Honestly i remember some people speculating we might be looking 5% -15% difference .
Which could end up being the truth .
If you looked at this first reply only, you can easily see how that could be inferred.
Na that "we eat monsters for breakfast" was about Scarlet being 4x more powerful than 1X which they called a monster in its reveal video.
Yes, I'm happy for this thread to be grounded now. No more Zen 3, Arcturus, Vega, 12TF Anaconda > 8TF PS5 stupidity.
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