block is a little harsh, he is a really good source of news here.Haha I have him on block so I don't see him when he posts .I knew it XD
block is a little harsh, he is a really good source of news here.Haha I have him on block so I don't see him when he posts .I knew it XD
To be fair once mod banned me when I was talking to him about 2019 not happening and mod said stop arguing (albeit ban was for 1 day ) but from that day I decided to put him on ignore list so I don't get into discussion with him .Agreeee
Why do peopel mute others on a forum is beyond me, on a game i understand because of all the kids
I think I look indeed differently on information from certain sources than you ;)I think anything Matt or Zhugex say for example is as factual as it can be without being official, that's why I said "Is safe to say". I didn't say "It's a confirmed fact"
It's safe to say PS5 will have hardware RT?
I think it's safe to say, wouldn't you agree?
Edit: Btw what is this arguing with semantics when noone here (Kyofu, me and you) is a native english speaker? I said "Is safe to say" when I could've said "It's probably the case" or whatever other idiom. I think both of you missed the point but whatever..
Edit2: Regarding the price if we believe those 2 things are "probably" true then $499 is more likely. That's the link
You miss a lot of news by ignoring VX1To be fair once mod banned me when I was talking to him about 2019 not happening and mod said stop arguing (albeit ban was for 1 day ) but from that day I decided to put him on ignore list so I don't get into discussion with him .
Yea I understand many times he is a good source but when mods ban over discussing differing opinions in civil manner , I have no choice but to avoid the whole thing . Anyways once the price is revealed I LL remove him from ignore list haha he has had me on if ignore list for longest time cause he didnt appreciate me telling him release is 2020.This is clearly a discussion not belonging here and would be a better fit for a DM discussion.
You also miss a lot of news by ignoring VX1
He is the retweet machine of this thread of all KOMACHI and APSIAK tweets and other fancy sources.
Please don't put words into my mouth :p
I think I look indeed differently on information from certain sources than you ;)
Has nothing to do with mistrust. Has to do what I see as a fact. I also made no comment about if I think the claims from the sources we talked about could be true or not. But they are definitely not facts at this moment in time even they may materialize as promised in the future!Your lack of faith is disturbing!
PS: Now seriously I think it's a prejudice from your part, so shouldn't be projected unto others? I shouldn't be corrected for assuming what people with a spotless track record say is probably the case, specially in a speculative argument. But whatever, I haven't posted/read in days due to the lack of news and I guess i stomped into an ongoing war of mistrust that I was unaware of
Has nothing to do with mistrust. Has to do what I see as a fact. I also made no comment about if I think the claims from the sources we talked about could be true or not. But they are definitely not facts at this moment in time even they may materialize as promised in the future!
I think it is my friend, at least at this point.
It's important insofar as, knowing this, MS will try to revert it, and Matt thinks they'll succeed in doing so.
Independently of the outcome, all of this information can help us surmise things like price, which for me is the key puzzle part missing.
So no, it's not important which one ends up on top, but yes, this info is relevant to the discussion in a big way, because I was a firm believer of $399 and now I'm on the $499 due to it
You're team $599, too? ;)
Right here in your first comment on the topic of the sub discussion ... :p
Reiner was stating a fact, conveying what the state of the affairs is right now, Matt was making a prediction about the future.
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that wont happen, there will probably be around 1TB of SSD internally, and you could add the additional storage externally, but for every game that is not on the SSD you will need to wait for the system to copy the game to the SSD and replaced it with the last game you didnt play on the SSD.
Matt over the years normally give info he certain about or don't mince words .
Which is why i value his info like when he said both will have hardware RT .
When it comes to which one stronger he gave his guess , which very different than what he normally does .
So if he wrong or right i won't hold that agaist his track record and that is how i look at that compare to his other info.
Nope. I think 499 Euros. US maybe more expensive this time due to their genius (sarcasm) government/president!
Matt even said he said just guessing. He never refuted Reiner's claims, so as of today, no insiders have claimed that the next Xbox would be more powerful than the next PlayStation, but two journalists have heard from sources that the next PlayStation's devkits were stronger than the next Xbox's.Reiner was stating a fact, conveying what the state of the affairs is right now, Matt was making a prediction about the future.
Right here in your first comment on the topic of the sub discussion ... :p
Matt even said he said just guessing. He never refuted Reiner's claims, so as of today, no insiders have claimed that the next Xbox would be more powerful than the next PlayStation, but two journalists have heard from sources that the next PlayStation's devkits were stronger than the next Xbox's.
Those are the facts.
I think is safe to say PS5 has an slight edge at this point in time, that both Sony and MS will work on improving their respective SKU's, and that the end result will be 2 machines that are very close in terms of specs, and they have to be the same price really.
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Not saying you did, just adding to your post. :)I didn't say it was a fact that the Xbox will be more powerful, only that Matt believes so.
Not saying you did, just adding to your post. :)
Matt didn't even say Xbox would be more powerful, it was a guess that Microsoft would not want to relinquish the power battle.
They're definitely going to be close, they share practically the exact same architecture.Yes but for me the takeaway of his words is that they're really close, hence must be the same price, hence it has to be $499
I even said doesn't matter which one ends on top...
PS: It was a post about price people...
They're definitely going to be close, they share practically the exact same architecture.
Either way, it doesn't really matter all that much in the end. I'd argue that most people already know which platform they will buy next regardless of the power difference. Even price is not a huge factor as I don't see the price difference being more than $50 between the two competitors.
Like i dont even care about the power difference between the Pro and OneX. Its the build quality that made me feel its worth the price increase. The dead silentness, the build itself, controller.They're definitely going to be close, they share practically the exact same architecture.
Either way, it doesn't really matter all that much in the end. I'd argue that most people already know which platform they will buy next regardless of the power difference. Even price is not a huge factor as I don't see the price difference being more than $50 between the two competitors.
Like i dont even care about the power difference between the Pro and OneX. Its the build quality that made me feel its worth the price increase. The dead silentness, the build itself, controller.
Which brings us back to the need to copy game data between storage devices which means that a big SSD won't be a good solution.
Not saying you did, just adding to your post. :)
Matt didn't even say Xbox would be more powerful, it was a guess that Microsoft would not want to relinquish the power battle.
But then an SSD data cache will require data copied between the two storage devices by definition... so how is that any better?
So if it's big SSD it's basically that and no external option at all?
I would be hard to find so low clocked ryzen 3 but with 5ghz i7-8700k https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9049/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-step-right-direction/index8.html firestirke overalscore 5700 19943 (22667gpu score) 5700xt 21774 (25622gpu)Did anyone try fire strike with Navi 5700 / xt paired with ryzen 3 clocked at 3.2 GHz to see which one scores above 20000 in firestrike test ??
5700 or 5700xt or even better than those ?
I dont think we'll get more than 9 RDNA TF. Even if we get 8 RDNA TF it will be fine,its somewhere between Vega 64 and GTX 2070.These are most likely my final predictions for the PS5 until the official reveal (PSX 2019):
Price: $499
GPU: 9-13 RDNA TFLOPS
CPU: 8-core 16 Threaded Zen 2 (3.2 GHz)
RAM: 24 GB (20 GB usable for devs) of unknown type or speed
SSD: 1 TB with 5 GB/s+ write speeds
Edit: I'll continue to add different smaller hardware features.
This seems pretty childish to admit honestly. Then again I find the whole concept of ignore lists (over petty differences of opinion) mind boggling and a little pointless when others quote someone on the "list".
Agreeee
Why do peopel mute others on a forum is beyond me, on a game i understand because of all the kids
If the SSD drive is not user upgradable I wonder if we'll get SKUs further down the line with bigger drives?
I still don't agree with separate threads. Segregation < Learning to coexist with people who don't share your point of view.
you can just go to the website and search for those GPUs and CPUs.Did anyone try fire strike with Navi 5700 / xt paired with ryzen 3 clocked at 3.2 GHz to see which one scores above 20000 in firestrike test ??
5700 or 5700xt or even better than those ?
But thsoe are high clocks for gpu.we should see if anyone done 1.8 GHz for gpu and 3.2 for cpu and see with those two if we get over 20000 overall firestrikeyou can just go to the website and search for those GPUs and CPUs.
The best result was 23k with a 27k graphics score. 1k higher than my rtx 2080 but it seems they had the core clock at 2.1 ghz for this card.
When pairing the RTX 2080 with a 3700X, the highest score is 24k with the graphics score being 29k. The highest RTX 2070 super score is 22k with a 25k graphics score.
So
2070 Super > 5700 XT > 2800.
I will look up time spy next but this card is amazing.
Closest i can find is this one at 1.89 ghz.But thsoe are high clocks for gpu.we should see if anyone done 1.8 GHz for gpu and 3.2 for cpu and see with those two if we get over 20000 overall firestrike
While I doubt it's possible especially with next-gen games but having no loading screens even when even booting up a game would be incredible. You just click and your in. It would be an experience no ones ever felt before. It would also make deciding which game to play a lot easier.I wonder if they can have 1TB SSD inside the console, and then having an extra empty slot inside for a secondary internal HDD.
This way the base system will have all the games readily available to read with no loading, and if a user wants he has to insert a 2nd HDD and have to go through the initial "swapping" between the two drives the first time it loads a game back into the console as mentioned in previous users posts.
This way you could also sell a base 1TB SSD base SKU plus a second, 1TBSSD+1/2TBHDD SKU.
This overallscore strongly depands on cpu so 3700x boosting to 4 391 MHz is not great equivalent of gonzalo 3.2ghzClosest i can find is this one at 1.89 ghz.
Overall 21k.
Graphics 25k.
Timespy scores arent as great.
Graphics scores only:
5700XT - 9.6
2070 Super - 10.3
2080 - 12.2
This overallscore strongly depands on cpu so 3700x boosting to 4 391 MHz is not great equivalent of gonzalo 3.2ghz
lol. i bet it will look like shit on current gen consoles though.Good news from CD PR about Cyberpunk & consoles:
Cyberpunk 2077 will look just as good on PS5 and Project Scarlett as most PCs