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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT6| - Mostly Fan Noise and Hot Air
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Have MS and sony revealed those numbers?
There's more hype than brains in this thread.
It really confirms 2000.0MHz clock speed for the GPU and pretty high clock for CPU too (3.6GHz maybe?)
By that logic, ps4 dev kit confirms dual gpus and built in water cooling.
It maybe does for the dev kit, but how the hell are they going to manage heat in the consumer model. If this thing needs this many vents now, they gotta have something planned cause you can't have that many in a production unit. That would restrict design a lot
Sony should do a premium PS5 with, like, 4TB SSD and a chassi made out of aluminum. Like a slightly larger Mac Mini. $800.
MS: I'm inevitable.
MS: I'm inevitable.
Cool dev.kit I guess. The only thing that excites me is the fact that actual honest to goodness dev kits are going out in console form factor. Not PCs with estimated specs.
I somehow doubt that Sony reinvented cooling when computer companies have been at it for years and even the One X didn't reinvent the wheel in that department.
So I haven't been in this thread for a long while, so any new info?
How are the next gen consoles stacking up against each other?
How are the next gen consoles stacking up against each other?
They will be very close but one may have a slight edge. 9-10TF RDNA seems to be the minimum for both now.
We also got some game impressions from Klee (who has been verified by Zhuge). This is a 3rd party game running on Unreal.
With the latest dev kit drawings, we can tell they're in fact stacking on top of each other, not side by side.
Also very nice!
minimum!? i am pretty sure that is maximum!
hell 10tflops GCU was my upper bounds, let alone 14
And 9-10TF RDNA is equivalent to how many regular TFs? 12-13?
And holy shit at those impressions!
NO.PS4 Pro devkit looks way cooler than retail console.
So because someone has been doing something for years someone else an't come and do it better? Just sound like GM talking about Tesla.
Anyways, here is the thing about sony's patent for cooling. Its not something that can exist in the PC space because it requires that the chip is built a specific way. The chip will have channels that conduct heat to a heat plate on the other side of the PCB. PCs segmented nature means something like that isn't going to happen. Unless we are talking about laptops, and believe me when I say those guys have doe some creative things with regards to laptop cooling. Hell there are laptops with a full desktop i9 CPU and a 2080 GPU...
Stop being pessimistic and writing 9 breh, we at a full 10TF minimum.
I'm glad you brought up laptops. Whenever people say "you can't cool that!" When the figures get too high they never seem to take into account gaming laptops. You can get laptop with with a dedicated 1050ti and i7-7700 for a thousand Canadian. I can't imagine the tdp of that thing and it doesn't seem to explode in a tight package
PS4 Pro devkit looks way cooler than retail console.
i hate the look of ps4/pro, but no. thats ugly as fuck - i dont want it any near my entertainment center
It is funny they even bothered to put that flourish of a shiny front plate with the ps logo. For as outlandish was the ps5 devkit looks, it all serves a practical purpose
Nah, it is more the minimum now going off the discussion the last few days/week. Klee also says both are above 9.2TF.
Something like ~14TF GCN. There isn't really a 1:1 comparison to be made between RDNA/GCN but yeah. We're getting some very solid consoles.
I even had it at just 10 at first lmao.
Asus Zephyrus S GX701GX is, like, 2cm thick, and manages to dissipate and cool 200W. MSI GE75 8SG Raider is less than 3cm thick and cools 255W.
And those laptops throttle, and the ones that don't as much are thick or super loud, there is no way around the physical limitations here.
And by the way, I do own a Tesla, awesome car by the way!
2 Gigerhertz
Give me a carbon fibre PS5.
Carbon fibre and racing stripes. GT limited edition PS5. Give it a small overclock, like 50MHz or some bullshit, so you can claim it's the fastest PS5 :D
No one could see the devkit in the Wired interview. It was covered in a shroud.
Bad memory...
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It seems it was different version of devkit big silver tower
Errrrr excuse, but a "laptop" that doesn't throttle, is still a laptop.And a console would at the very least be twice or thrice as thick as them, which should mean at the very least more room for better cooling.
The point though is that if they really wanted to invest as heavily in their cooling solutions as they do in other components of the console there is a lot of room for improvement. And while its just a patent (so we shouldn't put too much stock in it) what sony has shown to be willing to do with cooling is something no one else as done. If nothing else, its an acknowledgement that something "extra" needs to be done with regards to cooling, and thats not something we should dismiss.
It may end up just being a run off the mill vapor chamber cooler and nothing more, but if its some sort of worlds first solution that results in 30-40% better cooling then that right there is a game changer in of itself.
Right, now obviously it's not going to cost anywhere near a gaming laptop on the low-end. But they're cooling dedicated hardware. As opposed to a console which already has an API designed for small form factor which is then further turned into a bespoke design...which fits in a space much larger than your typical laptop. That's not even counting laptops have batteries which produce heat and take space, which consoles (besides switch) obviously do not
Maybe I'm way off base, but I always interpreted the wording to mean some sort of kiosk like enclosure completely obscuring any electronics. Not a crude early devkit enclosure a la a Mac Pro for X360.
Yes I think it is maybe the same devkit but hide in big silver tower...
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No, actually I didn't. He played me a video of the demo off a USB drive.
We have a verified member with a long history saying double digit RDNA TFs for both.
You think that could be the final or close to final case?
So it could not be real-time as well! Things getting interesting 🧐
Why do you think some graphics on same level than The Order 1886 even in Open world is not realtime? Why do some offline rendering running at less than stable 30 fps?
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If it was not running in real time it would have been running at solid framerates
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