Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT6| - Mostly Fan Noise and Hot Air

[Heaven Shard]

Console warrior pissing contest shit lmao. But okay honey, do you. If it makes you sleep better.

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Wow, you have a chip on your shoulder, snowflake. I'm not doing anything and I'm not apart of this conversation you dinosaur. I'm explaining to you what the other poster said and you didn't have to go all drama queen just because someone thinks one plastic box will sell more or less than the other plastic box. You remind me of the idiots back in the late 90's and early 2000's. I guess some of you are still around. I hope you don't hurt your high horse you sit on with that chip up your ass.
How fast you judge people and paint them and group them in your little 'sides' in your head... It's all in your head, little buddy. It's not real. Never get emotionally attached to any product. It's pathetic.

 

[Heaven Shard]

Sorry about the poll

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Is there a way to hide it? It gets in the way of me viewing pages here every single time. I have to scroll down every time I view this thread.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

with how taxing ray tracing is on the gpu, i would say 30 fps is the max we can expect even at 12-14 tflops. either that, or cutbacks will be made to make games run at 60 fps. similar to how battlefield, cod, titanfall and other 60 fps shooters cut corners to hit that 60 fps this gen.

but yes, lighting, atmospheric worlds AND massive destruction combined with realistic npc behavior is what i want out of next gen. i want every npc to have a daily routine. i want to be able to stalk them back to their house. when spiderman swings over their heads i want them to look up and take seflies. i want random events to happen organically. everyone makes fun of the pizza scene in spiderman 2 but its a great example of spiderman getting distracted saving kids and solving petty crime while trying to do a story mission.

same goes for destruction. i want destruction to play a big part in the game's narrative. if you are a shitty spiderman and you end up wrecking half of manhattan trying to defeat a boss then i want that to play out in how the civilians treat you and how the media portrays you. infamous kinda did this last gen, but they can do it a lot more organically next gen with all the cpu power at their disposal.

p.s if gran turismo 7 doesnt have destruction, im not buying it. there is simply no excuse after all these years to not have a great destruction system in the game.

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You are asking for way to much .
Plus some of those things have more to do with budget and time than anything else.

 

[Heaven Shard]

You are asking for way to much .

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Not necessarily. NPCs react to you in Spiderman. There is a video showing RDR2 NPCs have daily routines. BF3 and 4 made destruction part of the narrative of the game. I imagine the poster wants more depth. Asking for destruction in GT is also reasonable. I want dynamic or weather settings in GT. It's embarrassing that after all these years GTS only has one rain in one track when DriveClub did way more to weather and that was an early game release and on a smaller budget. And yes, these things are more design philosophies than hardware limitations.

As pure technical limitations/achievements, I don't think I'm unreasonable expecting 4K60. What I don't know is how far 'new' tech can be applied like ray tracing. I've learned that lighting makes all the difference. It's striking how much difference lighting makes to a game. So far, seeing how amazing current gen games look, I know we're going to be amazed with next gen. Just think about it; no current gen game can stand a chance to a next gen one. Horizon ZD looks better than any SP game last gen. So I conclude that we will see open world games looking better than TLOU2.
Now, budget and time constraints will be a major factor, of course. But technically? I think next gen can do that.

 

[Imitation Of Life]

I think that MS's first party games will target performance while Sony's will target visual quality. MS's games will be 4K/60 across the board while Sony's will be 4K/30.

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Sony has already started adding performance modes to some of their games. I expect it to be even more commonplace next gen.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Not necessarily. NPCs react to you in Spiderman. There is a video showing RDR2 NPCs have daily routines . BF3 and 4 made destruction part of the narrative of the game. I imagine the poster wants more depth. Asking for destruction in GT is also reasonable. I want dynamic or weather settings in GT. It's embarrassing that after all these years GTS only has one rain in one track when DriveClub did way more to weather and that was an early game release and on a smaller budget. And yes, these things are more design philosophies than hardware limitations.

As pure technical limitations/achievements, I don't think I'm unreasonable expecting 4K60. What I don't know is how far 'new' tech can be applied like ray tracing. I've learned that lighting makes all the difference. It's striking how much difference lighting makes to a game. So far, seeing how amazing current gen games look, I know we're going to be amazed with next gen. Just think about it; no current gen game can stand a chance to a next gen one. Horizon ZD looks better than any SP game last gen. So I conclude that we will see open world games looking better than TLOU2.
Now, budget and time constraints will be a major factor, of course. But technically? I think next gen can do that.

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I am talking about all those aspect together .
Yes we getting more power but just destruction alone could used up all that cpu power or something else.
Then add in more NPCs , better draw distance etc etc you can't have everything .

If we using spidey 2 as a eg i am sure they can have the NPCs have daily routines and destruction .
Having that effect the narrative is whole another ball game since that could mean more voice acting , more writing , work etc etc .
Which why is said some of that stuff is budget and time are more of a factor.

Sony has already started adding performance modes to some of their games. I expect it to be even more commonplace next gen.

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I don't expect any of that until we get mid gen upgrades if we get them .

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I am talking about all those aspect together .
Yes we getting more power but just destruction alone could used up all that cpu power or something else.
Then add in more NPCs , better draw distance etc etc you can't have everything .

If we using spidey 2 as a eg i am sure they can have the NPCs have daily routines and destruction .
Having that effect the narrative is whole another ball game since that could mean more voice acting , more writing , work etc etc .
Which why is said some of that stuff is budget and time are more of a factor.



I don't expect any of that until we get mid gen upgrades if we get them .

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You forgot what Kleegamefan said about the RPG: RT (still in beta in UE4), massive physics and destruction (chaos engine is still in beta), all this in with massive intricate details and in huge open world. Ok, the Framerates are choppy right now but keep in mind both RT and chaos engien are still in beta in their current states and UE4 doesn't have a native PS5 support yet. If things are kind looking decent right now, then later things can only improve to an extent you can't imagine. But all comes to the devs and how much they want to invest in the game, the hardware is here anyway,, only left is the will and the skill.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

You forgot what Kleegamefan said about the RPG: RT (still in beta in UE4), massive physics and destruction (chaos engine is still in beta), all this in with massive intricate details and in huge open world. Ok, the Framerates are choppy right now but keep in mind both RT and chaos engien are still in beta in their current states and UE4 doesn't have a native PS5 support yet. If things are kind looking decent right now, then later things can only improve to an extent you can't imagine.

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Did not forget i just don't know enough about it like how many enemies on screen, NPCs , Res, how much detail it have , physics etc etc
Also know things can change during development even more so when it so early .
I expecting a good jump from next gen but i also not expecting the moon lol

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Did not forget i just don't know enough about it like how many enemies on screen, NPCs , Res, how much detail it have , physics etc etc
Also know things can change during development even more so when it so early .
I expecting a good jump from next gen but i also not expecting the moon lol.

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We got a big jump from PS3 to PS4 on almost potato hardware. You can expect much moe for next-gen, it won't be something screaming big improvements like from PS1 to PS2 when moving from blocky stitched and facless characters to life like characters like in Silent Hill 3 but you can expect subtle changes and improvemenst in every aspect. Some won't even notice the RT features because they don't know their advantage to start with.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

We got a big jump from PS3 to PS4 on almost potato hardware. You can expect much moe for next-gen, it won't be something screaming big improvements like from PS1 to PS2 when moving from blocky stitched and facless characters to life like characters like in Silent Hill 3 but you can expect subtle changes and improvemenst in every aspect. Some won't even notice the RT features because they don't know their advantage to start with.

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The number 1 thing i want from next gen is the environment being more interactive in a lot of ways .
Like in HZD when you fight mechs you see some tress and other stuff get destroy i want that to have a huge jump come next gen .

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

The number 1 thing i want from next gen is the environment being more interactive in a lot of ways .
Like in HZD when you fight mechs you see some tress and other stuff get destroy i want that to have a huge jump come next gen .

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This will happen. Don't be worried. Did you see the chaos engine from UE4? It's very impressive, this what the RPG is having right now, without forgetting the other 3rd party middlewares like DMM, Havoc Nvidia PhysX and the internal solutions of ther engines like Frostbyte and some exclusive games that will have their versions updated for next-gen and tailored with the new consoles and hardwares.

 

[monketron]

The speedier texture steaming that the built in SSD is going to give is really going to give open world games a huge boost. I can't wait to see what devs will be able to do with the tech. HZD2 / Spider-man 2 / GTA 6 to name a few. It's just a matter of time before Microsoft gets in on the act too, Fable 4 may well be their first big open world game on next gen at a guess? (not counting Halo, if indeed they go with some sort of pseudo open-world style with it). Imagine how alive they could make the world of fable feel.

Racing games should also see a nice boost. You could do some unbelievable detailed street circuits with the extra bandwidth to play with.

 

[thuway]

As far as visuals though you won't be disappointed at all. A lot of those tech demos that are out now (like the photogrammetry ones) could just be the baseline according to him. Other things such as the CPU and SSD will be crazy as well (if devs utilize it properly)...


It's just that so many are doubtful, including me, so I think in all different aspects we'll be surprised.

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Yess

 

[formasymphonic]

I'm in for 499, but they give me a reasonable level of perf with 2TB internal storage I'd be in for a higher sku at 599 or even 649. (By the time I spend for extras to have ssd external storage I'd be looking at that anyway).

Edit: To clarify, I think they should go for 499. Only a higher level of internal SSD storage as a separate SKU would make me go over that.

 

[Anthony Hopkins]

Truth is i won't be surprised since i expect games to look crazy good in many ways next gen .
Look at what we get this gen and next gen is going to be a good jump not only in GPU but everything else but ram .

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I think the doubt comes from the move to 4k and possibly raytracing, both which are very demanding.

However the way I look at it, is RDR2 can be done at native 4k on a 1X.
Now imagine if devs have 8 more tflops, double the ram, 4x the CPU, 40x the storage caperbility and ray tracing hardware, not to mention RDR2s tech is designed with 1.31tflops, netbook cpu and 5gb ram in mind.

So they will be able to create far more advanced foundations and also have way more resources.

 

[Deleted member 5725]

It really depends what they deliver. If it's an amazing piece of tech and cool features for 800€, sure, I'd probably buy it. But what I'm reasonably expecting of the next-gen consoles, I'm willing to pay 600€ at most.

 

[nextJin]

This crossed my mind several times,yeah.

Zen2 won't be hot new thing in late 2020,AMD will have Zen3 next year,GDDR6 and SSD will only get cheaper etc.

Btw,if they launch $399 PS5 we shouldn't expect any price cut for a very,very long time...that strategy worked very well for PS4.

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I agree, If any of the rumors on Zen 3 have a semblance of truth I would imagine Sony/MS are giving Ryzen 2 and PCIe 4.0 drives time to mature.

They probably have no desire to use Zen 3 if it's all about more cores/threads. For them, Zen 2 was that moment everything came together. Releases this years would be lower than spec SSDs using older controllers imo.

The only thing I cam see happening is 499.99 launch and bringing that down to 399.99 or 349.99 after awhile for a PS5 Pro. I fully expect it to be 499.99 at launch, 399.99 just makes it day 1.

 

[Mecha Meister]

Mecha Meister
Scrap the currencies and just use $.
btw no reason to apologize, you indeed asked twice and got nothing in response.

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Thanks!

Okay, so just USD? I'll have to ask the mods if it's possible to remove the pound symbol.
If this is possible, would a reset of the poll be ideal along with just one currency, just in case having two currencies impacted the choices people made? Or should just the currency change and the poll results remain?

Alternatively, maybe we could use this format (as previous consoles followed this pricing):

• Less than £349/$399/€399
• £349/$399/€399 to £449/$499/€499
• £449/$499/€499 to £549/$599/€599
• £549/$599/€599 to £649/$699/€699
• £649/$699/€699 to £749/$799/$799
• More than £749/$799/$799

This format locks in price points in the event that there are fluctuations in the value of these currencies, it also gives people a better understanding and a clearer way of expressing how much they are willing to pay for a next generation console.


So, what should we do with the poll? I'm not sure if the mods are able to make much if any changes to the poll, but if they can:

A - New Poll, one currency (USD) and reset
B - Same Poll, one currency (USD) and no reset
C - New Poll

Poll C

• Less than £349/$399/€399
• £349/$399/€399 to £449/$499/€499
• £449/$499/€499 to £549/$599/€599
• £549/$599/€599 to £649/$699/€699
• £649/$699/€699 to £749/$799/$799
• More than £749/$799/$799

Is there a way to hide it? It gets in the way of me viewing pages here every single time. I have to scroll down every time I view this thread.

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Unfortunately I'm not aware of such an option, perhaps this is a feature we could request for the forum?

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[Metalane]

The speedier texture steaming that the built in SSD is going to give is really going to give open world games a huge boost. I can't wait to see what devs will be able to do with the tech. HZD2 / Spider-man 2 / GTA 6 to name a few. It's just a matter of time before Microsoft gets in on the act too, Fable 4 may well be their first big open world game on next gen at a guess? (not counting Halo, if indeed they go with some sort of pseudo open-world style with it). Imagine how alive they could make the world of fable feel.

Racing games should also see a nice boost. You could do some unbelievable detailed street circuits with the extra bandwidth to play with.

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The game dev that I've been talking to made a good point that despite the current gen limitations we can still have open worlds with only one loading screen (except for game-overs)...

The bigger concern is weather or not devs will take the SSD as just "yay, faster loading screens" or actually utilize its potential. He convinced me that even without the use of the SSD we can still expect many game-changing things (w/ next-gen graphics).

 

[Metalane]

I think the doubt comes from the move to 4k and possibly raytracing, both which are very demanding.

However the way I look at it, is RDR2 can be done at native 4k on a 1X.
Now imagine if devs have 8 more tflops, double the ram, 4x the CPU, 40x the storage caperbility and ray tracing hardware, not to mention RDR2s tech is designed with 1.31tflops, netbook cpu and 5gb ram in mind.

So they will be able to create far more advanced foundations and also have way more resources.

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That dev also mentioned that they'll be many more techniques devs can use to get amazing RT. And I mean a LOT of different ways, every studio might have their own formula. So those RT based tech demos (Star Wars or Troll) may not be so taxing after all. Of course, even without RT, rasterized lighting will still give us a generational difference.

Edit: Woops, double post.

 

[GhostTrick]

This will happen. Don't be worried. Did you see the chaos engine from UE4? It's very impressive, this what the RPG is having right now, without forgetting the other 3rd party middlewares like DMM, Havoc Nvidia PhysX and the internal solutions of ther engines like Frostbyte and some exclusive games that will have their versions updated for next-gen and tailored with the new consoles and hardwares.

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Destruction is possible since ages in gaming. Even a low budget game like EDF features high level of destruction. If it doesn't happen, it's not only for hardware reasons but also budget and game design.

It makes no sense for most games to feature a high level of destruction because it'd either mean that the building would go back to their initial state (which doesn't make sense)... Or would mean that after a few hours of gameplay, the city or the environnement would be unusable.

I feel like in this thread, many people mistakes budget constraints, design constraints and hardware constraints.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

Right, I want more detailed and impactful destruction but it has to make sense. You can't just blow everything in sight to smithereens because that obviously would mess with the overall design of the game. Devs will still have to design smartly even if things like destruction and physics ramp up relative to this gen.

 

[Metalane]

We got a big jump from PS3 to PS4 on almost potato hardware. You can expect much moe for next-gen, it won't be something screaming big improvements like from PS1 to PS2 when moving from blocky stitched and facless characters to life like characters like in Silent Hill 3 but you can expect subtle changes and improvemenst in every aspect. Some won't even notice the RT features because they don't know their advantage to start with.

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The reason why graphics improvement (not gameplay/game-design) may not feel so big next-gen is mostly due to artists and diminishing returns. I mean, hopefully we're wrong. People thought graphics 15 years ago were on the cusp of reality.

 

[BreakAtmo]

You can't just blow everything in sight to smithereens

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Challenge Accepted

 

[Deleted member 30077]

You forgot what Kleegamefan said about the RPG: RT (still in beta in UE4), massive physics and destruction (chaos engine is still in beta), all this in with massive intricate details and in huge open world. Ok, the Framerates are choppy right now but keep in mind both RT and chaos engien are still in beta in their current states and UE4 doesn't have a native PS5 support yet. If things are kind looking decent right now, then later things can only improve to an extent you can't imagine. But all comes to the devs and how much they want to invest in the game, the hardware is here anyway,, only left is the will and the skill.

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You should also entertain the idea that things can regress and that the end result can look worse than what he saw. He probably saw a vertical slice of a game early in development. Often what devs want a game too look and what they can achieve in a vertical slice can't always be achieved in a full game. Just look at what happened to Watchdogs or Anthem. The early stuff we saw looked much better than what was actually released.

 

[Silencerx98]

You should also entertain the idea that things can regress and that the end result can look worse than what he saw. He probably saw a vertical slice of a game early in development. Often what devs want a game too look and what they can achieve in a vertical slice can't always be achieved in a full game. Just look at what happened to Watchdogs or Anthem. The early stuff we saw looked much better than what was actually released.

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To be fair, what he described sounded more like an early prototype rather than a vertical slice build. Also, worth remembering the trailers of games you mentioned were polished up to show the public. Klee saw this game in private, so there was no need to polish up the visuals for anyone

 

[Pheonix]

Thanks!

Okay, so just USD? I'll have to ask the mods if it's possible to remove the pound symbol.
If this is possible, would a reset of the poll be ideal along with just one currency, just in case having two currencies impacted the choices people made? Or should just the currency change and the poll results remain?

Alternatively, maybe we could use this format (as previous consoles followed this pricing):

• Less than £349/$399/€399
• £349/$399/€399 to £449/$499/€499
• £449/$499/€499 to £549/$599/€599
• £549/$599/€599 to £649/$699/€699
• £649/$699/€699 to £749/$799/$799
• More than £749/$799/$799

This format locks in price points in the event that there are fluctuations in the value of these currencies, it also gives people a better understanding and a clearer way of expressing how much they are willing to pay for a next generation console.


So, what should we do with the poll? I'm not sure if the mods are able to make much if any changes to the poll, but if they can:

A - New Poll, one currency (USD) and reset
B - Same Poll, one currency (USD) and no reset
C - New Poll

Poll C

• Less than £349/$399/€399
• £349/$399/€399 to £449/$499/€499
• £449/$499/€499 to £549/$599/€599
• £549/$599/€599 to £649/$699/€699
• £649/$699/€699 to £749/$799/$799
• More than £749/$799/$799

Unfortunately I'm not aware of such an option, perhaps this is a feature we could request for the forum?

Edit - Made post clearer.

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Option B.

Everyone that has voted pretty uh voted s if that was the option anyways. One currency, USD. Everyone also kinda knows what the dollar equivalent of anything ends up being in their respective countries too. So keep it as simple a possible.

 

[Ra]

The price premium PCIe 4.0 drives command right now has almost nothing to do with how much they cost to make. It's entirely about segmenting the market and charging a higher margin for the newest tech.

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The point is only that 4.0 SSDs will be more expensive to include in the BOM.

 

[Deep Friar]

Right, I want more detailed and impactful destruction but it has to make sense. You can't just blow everything in sight to smithereens because that obviously would mess with the overall design of the game. Devs will still have to design smartly even if things like destruction and physics ramp up relative to this gen.

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Yes, I love destruction in games; that said, you can't really be allowed to go crazy in every title. After everything is destroyed......then what?

 

[monketron]

The game dev that I've been talking to made a good point that despite the current gen limitations we can still have open worlds with only one loading screen (except for game-overs)...

The bigger concern is weather or not devs will take the SSD as just "yay, faster loading screens" or actually utilize its potential. He convinced me that even without the use of the SSD we can still expect many game-changing things (w/ next-gen graphics).

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Yeah good point. Knowing devs though, they'll always push to make their game look better than the last one. People expect all games to run at 60fps next gen and while they may at first, in my mind devs will more likely be "hey now I can put 10x as many textures on screen and still keep the game at 30fps, awesome!".

 

[RoboPlato]

Yes, I love destruction in games; that said, you can't really be allowed to go crazy in every title. After everything is destroyed......then what?

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I like how Control has the explanation that the building alters itself regularly so you can cause a ton of destruction, leave the area, and it's fixed but you just assume the house cleaned up after you

 

[Deleted member 59519]

Could CD3's Gamescom 2015 demo physics be achieved locally on Scarlett?

 

[Metalane]

Could CD3's Gamescom 2015 demo physics be achieved locally on Scarlett?

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Could you send a link?

 

[Miniature Kaiju]

if gran turismo 7 doesnt have destruction, im not buying it. there is simply no excuse after all these years to not have a great destruction system in the game.

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IIRC, car damage and destructibility in racing games is limited due to licensing issues. Some manufacturers allow it, some don't, some limit it to just minor aesthetics stuff and nothing that hampers performance. Virtually all of them ask for more money if the cars are to be seen in anything but their pristine forms.

That's one of the main reasons games like Burnout or Motorstorm went with fantasy brands, even if it's pretty clear what makes and models they're referencing.

 

[Mecha Meister]

Could you send a link?

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Here you go!

 

[Deleted member 59519]

I'm interested in Sports games like Madden and especially NBA 2K getting revolutionary improvements to AI and physics. I hope that they've been working on their next-gen engines for some time.

 

[Vitamin_B_Complex]

I'm interested in Sports games like Madden and especially NBA 2K getting revolutionary improvements to AI and physics. I hope that they've been working on their next-gen engines for some time.

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All this improved AI talk...
I'm pretty sure most people would absolutely hate "smart" AI. Imagine every human enemy in the last of us 2 to act like a human player would, you wouldn't leave the first screen.

Better AI, as in they don't get stuck on stuff, don't do stupid shit like jump to their death, anything that breaks immersion, but good as in a smart opponent, well I highly doubt it would be enjoyable.

Edit: has there actually been a developer to speak about the cpus and how they limit their ai vision of the game? Would love to know where the possibilities end this gen.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

We got a big jump from PS3 to PS4 on almost potato hardware. You can expect much moe for next-gen...

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Can we ? Jump from rsx to 7850 was huuuge, also memory from 0.5gb to 8gb.

 

[Vitamin_B_Complex]

Can we ? Jump from rsx to 7850 was huuuge, also memory from 0.5gb to 8gb.

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The jump from HDD to SSD will be 50 times sequential read and (don't quote me on that) about 370 times in latency.

 

[Gamer17]

$499.with Sony taking $100 loss in 2020 .let's go sony.dont let us down

 

[Deleted member 59519]

All this improved AI talk...
I'm pretty sure most people would absolutely hate "smart" AI. Imagine every human enemy in the last of us 2 to act like a human player would, you wouldn't leave the first screen.

Better AI, as in they don't get stuck on stuff, don't do stupid shit like jump to their death, anything that breaks immersion, but good as in a smart opponent, well I highly doubt it would be enjoyable.

Edit: has there actually been a developer to speak about the cpus and how they limit their ai vision of the game? Would love to know where the possibilities end this gen.

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For me, better AI doesnt necessarily mean more aggressive AI, just more realistic. And Madden/2K allow you to adjust the difficulty.

 

[Metalane]

Here you go!

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Thanks!

Could CD3's Gamescom 2015 demo physics be achieved locally on Scarlett?

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Yes, that's possible next-gen. In fact, with enough effort and optimization that could probably be done on current-gen hardware.

 

[Deleted member 12635]

JFYI - the poll was reset. We all have to vote again ...
thx Mecha Meister

 

[Metalane]

Can we ? Jump from rsx to 7850 was huuuge, also memory from 0.5gb to 8gb.

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If he is just referring to the GPU then it's similar jump. It wouldn't matter as software advances and hardware advances don't scale.

The jump from HDD to SSD will be 50 times sequential read and (don't quote me on that) about 370 times in latency.

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About that...

 

[Cyborg]

Thanks!

Okay, so just USD? I'll have to ask the mods if it's possible to remove the pound symbol.
If this is possible, would a reset of the poll be ideal along with just one currency, just in case having two currencies impacted the choices people made? Or should just the currency change and the poll results remain?

Alternatively, maybe we could use this format (as previous consoles followed this pricing):

• Less than £349/$399/€399
• £349/$399/€399 to £449/$499/€499
• £449/$499/€499 to £549/$599/€599
• £549/$599/€599 to £649/$699/€699
• £649/$699/€699 to £749/$799/$799
• More than £749/$799/$799

This format locks in price points in the event that there are fluctuations in the value of these currencies, it also gives people a better understanding and a clearer way of expressing how much they are willing to pay for a next generation console.


So, what should we do with the poll? I'm not sure if the mods are able to make much if any changes to the poll, but if they can:

A - New Poll, one currency (USD) and reset
B - Same Poll, one currency (USD) and no reset
C - New Poll

Poll C

• Less than £349/$399/€399
• £349/$399/€399 to £449/$499/€499
• £449/$499/€499 to £549/$599/€599
• £549/$599/€599 to £649/$699/€699
• £649/$699/€699 to £749/$799/$799
• More than £749/$799/$799

Unfortunately I'm not aware of such an option, perhaps this is a feature we could request for the forum?

Edit - Made post clearer.

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Option B.
I dont know why this even a thing, the poll is just fine as it is. No normal person should care that much about such details.

 

[anexanhume]

Just watched the DF Gears 5 video. Thinking about next gen got me like

 

[Metalane]

Just watched the DF Gears 5 video. Thinking about next gen got me like

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I was looking at a comparison between the Xbox One X version and the PC version at ultra settings:



How the hell did they achieve this? I believe the 1X runs at native 4K/60 and it looks just as good as ultra settings?!?!

 

[chris 1515]

This two gif from control RTX version are interesting for next generation console.

 

[Joule]

This two gif from control RTX version are interesting for next generation console.

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holy shit

 

[sncvsrtoip]

How the hell did they achieve this? I believe the 1X runs at native 4K/60 and it looks just as good as ultra settings?!?!

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Nope, it runs dynamic res from 1584p up to 2160p