Tbh, this is what I was ecpecting from the start, the best price for the best combo.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
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Tbh, this is what I was ecpecting from the start, the best price for the best combo.
So Cerny is picking shitty emmc ssd's to make his comparison? If it takes you 15 sec to go from Excel to Word on a ssd than there's something wrong.
I don't see 500GB base happening, at least 1TB. Launching a next-gen console with less memory than the mid-gen refreshes is clearly not a good idea. Regardless of it having a better and more expensive storage solution or not.
It is 576 GB/s of theorical bandwidth the 5700XT real bandwidth is less than 448 GB/s.
It seems very likely. 1T is only $100 on Newegg. A company like Sony could easily get 2T for the same cost.
I agree 18gbps GDDR6 on 256bit bus without claim shell should be 576GB/s. The benchmark showed 530GB/s. That matches up with with the ~8% loss you get from clamshell.
That twitter user has nothing but a history of overusing hashtags.
I don't know him. I just discovered him from the PSU article which clamed he was reliable.
They cite no evidence to back their claim. I think the only thing that account has done is guess the initial TLOU 2 release date.
Well, pretty much confirmed that those cartridges are indeed expandable storage for the PS5. Sony updated the patent:
Let me run a wild theory by y'all and tell me what you think.
1) The "storage device" functionality mentioned here is not for PS5 expandable storage, but instead PS5 games will come on these cards. The disc drive on the PS5 is for BC and media playback purposes only. This will allow the PS5 to read physical games incredibly fast, adding to its "immediate access" marketing.
2) These memory cards will utilize ReRAM storage technology, which we know Sony is working on, and so will the PS5's SSD. If Sony is planning to jump into a new market of developing ReRAM then what better way to make a splash for their Semi-Con division than to be the sole supplier of both the PS5 SSD, the PS5 game cards and the storage going into PS5-based servers for PS Now in Azure datacenters? It will immediately give their Semi-Con division a mammoth customer right off the bat and show the world and other potential customers what their drives can do.
3) One of the reasons for the switch from disc-based PS5 games to cartridge based is that at some point they intend to release a PS5 Portable (maybe a couple years into the gen) and discs won't do for that. One of the reasons here is they realize that supporting both the PS5 ecosystem, the PSVR/PSVR2 ecosystem and a handheld ecosystem would be stretching themselves too thin so bring it all together by making a portable PS5. We know AMD are working with the likes of Samsung to bring powerful graphics to mobile, so given a bit of time I think they could manage to develop an APU that manages to play PS5 games at either 720p or 1080p for a handheld. This will go a long way towards winning over markets like Japan again.
So... yeah this is what I'd like to happen :D
If this was the case, there would not be any need to install games, cerny has already said games have to be installed.
It varies from generation to generation, just as an example, the lead up to the 360 had at least 4 different revisions, Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2.
Wild speculation... shot down in less than two minutes... lol
It was a fun read though, vivftp.
Cartridges for game media is just impractical. Retail games would be far too expensive.
Think about 100GB worth of game data, then look at the costs of 128GB SD cards... even slashing them in half still would wipe out any publisher/platform profits after shipping, packaging and retailer margins. The only alternative would be to sell them for higher prices at retail, meaning PS5 is DOA against an optical-disc based Scarlett.
It would be the N64 all over again.
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Why can't you just let me have this fantasy??? 😭😭
Lol, yeah it was fun trying to connect the dots in my head 😁
The $499 price tag is what i would expect. 2TB of storage could be possible using QLC flash.
PSU . com themselves are not reliable, so i wouldnt take their word for someone being reliable.
Better customization to suit their end goals, I'd imagine and possibly better cost savings.
I was just thinking about my ReRAM theory above and another thought occurred. Sony make all manner of high speed memory cards for their camera division, what if this is part of a larger push towards Sony making a new memory format standard that's leaps and bounds faster than any normal flash storage to use both on the PS5 and cameras? It would give them a competitive edge in 2 fields that are their core pillars.
Not only that but they could start to slap this storage tech into any number of other devices they produce from Walkmans to Xperias to whatever else. I still also subscribe to the theory that the MoU Sony has with Microsoft might also potentially involve using Sony ReRAM drives in Azure datacenters since the semi-con business was mentioned. I know they mentioned image sensors, but no reason storage couldn't also be a factor.
Now of course this all banks on Sony having a mature ReRAM storage solution ready to go at a reasonable price and that they're able to produce them in sufficient quantities. If they are, then the prospect of using this tech in so many of their devices and potentially selling to other companies can only help to eventually drive down the price.
If true, I do not like it the way it sounds which is the thing is off-standards. Proprietary devices are usually priced way higher than what you have to pay for stuff based on established standards because there is competition. I don't want a situation like with the X360 and its over priced cartridges.Well, pretty much confirmed that those cartridges are indeed expandable storage for the PS5. Sony updated the patent:
It's probably too good to be true. I can't see it. Not in an affordable package.
Just when these companies went all digital to give more money back to publishers you think they would be excited to be forced to support expensive cartridges? I'd rather load than pay an extra $10 per game.
Nah... You guys are running wild again. Getting greedy. Enjoy Zen 2/3, RDNA2 and an SSD. It's a balanced console not a water cooled benchmarking rig.
Everyone's new IPs should melt faces. Although we do have that pesky issue of still making games for Xbox One as an anchor.
Ps4 Pro most likely. The real star is the lighting imo that makes the game look that pretty. In scenes without the lighting it looks far less impressive but still good though.
IMO it will be a cross-gen title with PS5 getting all the bells and whistles in native 4K. Still the gameplay is most impressive.
Yeah I believe that too since it will release just too close to the launch. But I expect better from a Ps5 than this video. There are still low res textures in it and little things that should easily improve with the Ps5.
That was running on a Pro. As good as that looks, the PS5 will crush those visuals for the same game, and even moreso for games built specifically built for next gen.
How do you know it was running on a Pro? I've been saying this game was shown off on next gen hardware for a while. I'm sure the Pro can get close with worse aliasing and lower resolution.
My most anticipated title, the world is so beautiful.
They said so.
He said it before difference is very low like between Xbox One and Xbox One S.
I bet they'd just take the next-gen talk as a compliment.
It's almost scary to think what they'll be able to do on much more powerful hardware...
Sucker Punch + PS5 =
Waaaaat. Are we talking here about 10+ RDNA Navi teraflops or GCN equivalent?
If 10+rdna then indeed that's just amazing(similiar to GTX 2080 super) and its 7-8x more tflops than PS4 alltogether with architectural changes.
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