The rumor for big PC GPU Navi is 80 CU it means 20 Tflops at 2 Ghz and with raytracing and other feature like VRS. The rumor begins last year.
EDIT: The big PC Navi GPU will be a real monster.
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The rumor for big PC GPU Navi is 80 CU it means 20 Tflops at 2 Ghz and with raytracing and other feature like VRS. The rumor begins last year.
EDIT: The big PC Navi GPU will be a real monster.
When he said that, pcie4.0 was yet to hit the market. pcie 3.0 sequential read, which I assume is the speed used when discussing all these numbers, were in the 2.5-3Gb/s area.
There will be no 80cu with 2ghz ;) Very big chips don't run on same clocks as 2x smallers.
I might well be wrong, I thought there were PCie 3 ssds at that point in the high 3.xGB/s territory. Which is why I put the baseline at 4.
But yeah - whatever was out there in PCie3 land, take that, add a little, and that ought to be the baseline to qualify wrt what Cerny was saying.
Damn, next gen is sounding so good. I'll be fresh out of college and buying my PS5 and beginning to truly live life. Ahhh, life is good. Hopefully Trump will be voted out of office and shit will be really good.
I did not say it will be at 2Ghz I just say if they can push it at 2Ghz it is 20 Tflops. The only rumor is 80 CU since last year msmaybe it will be 1.5 or 1.6 Ghz or more I don't know.
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not to burst your bubble but if you are starting a full time 9-6 PM job out of college, you will be too exhausted to play games. it will take you months to get used to the routine.
This happened to me and several people i know. i didnt want to play anything. i was sleep and tired all the time. i had all the money in the world and zero drive to play anything.
you can probably help prepare for it by fixing your sleep schedule before you graduate. easier said than done in college though.
Variable Rate Shading
Basically, it is a performance aid. It will be quite useful.
I hope so. I can't tell the difference. And it will mean better graphics.
IMO native 4K vs really good reconstruction is very much a case of Emperor's new clothes.
That is me right now. Doing 60hrs work weeks and just going str8 to sleep.
Why are you assuming they are slow? Because of the 12-pin layout?
PCIE 4.0 can do 1969 MB/s per pin.
So 12 pins is over 23 GB/s... more than enough for a custom SSD interface.
See above.
See PCIE 4.0 , the interface can go up to 31.51GB/s with x16 lanes. This is for the interface. Naturally the NAND chip transfer speeds themselves will be the limiting factor.
Is this really the system Sony thought they could launch in 2019?
CPU/GPU or something else?
Do you know any CPU details?
Kleegamefan, has your friend actually given you the TFLOP numbers? Or only kept it vague by saying it's double digits? Not that it matters. 10 tflops is still about 5,4 times regular PS4 (without taking into account the architectural improvements of course).
I'm honestly expecting it to be almost 13 for PS5 - Everything else is gravy, so might as well go all in (the 12,7 tflops rumor has been around awhile- I remember the Benji backtracking...)
12.9 you mean not 12.7 :p
Nah he said just his friend nodded with his head to confirm both are over 10 Tflops. That is all. He ddin't even say it wsith his mouth, just nodded. : so don't expect exact number. :p
Ops, sorry! You're right - 12.9! (So even better!)
These consoles, man... 12.9 RDNA tflops from the X1 1.3 tflop baseline... That's basically original Xbox > X360 right there (specifically talking about the GPU side). That's fucking insane!
You know those 200 gigaFLOPS you forgot are exactly the FLOp pwoer of the PS3, and even betetr considering the much better architecture of RDNA 2 so it must be several times more. With that you can add a GTA5 or MGS5 or TLOU or GOW3 game to your already existing PS5 game, meaning that could be used for something really important. Don't neglect those few flops, they are crucial. XD
I'll manage. I already balance 18 credit semesters and 30 hr work weeks. Honestly just having a 9-5 will be a welcome change for me and free up my time. That also doesn't speak to the time it takes for cooking and other home things.
Yeah, it smelled fishy... but I couldn't believe they would literally said OFICIALLY CONFIRMED 😂😂😂 🤦♂️
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Probably not. It (probably) wont be as fast, but it should be fast enough to be a gamechanger compared to this gen.
Does that mean PS5 is more powerful but not much, for example, 10%? Thanks.
that's over the bus speed of the normal lanes nvme on pcie4 gets, so at least the cap is that
Is it? We're getting RDNA 2 shown off at CES in January right?
so, i postulated that a console could come with 0 onboard storage and 1 sku, with user chooseable storage, but man what a retail mess
Well this will increase performance and even allow RT games in Native 4K with open settings and plenty of details like the game Kleegamefan saw. Desv won't have hard time coding for both.
Zen 3 has been taped out for a while. We have no such announcement regarding RDNA 2.0, or whether it ends up being called.
Doesn't matter, the PR will be important for who ever comes out ahead even if by a .01 difference.
Lockhart isn't a thing anymore, yet Spencer refuses to pin Scarlett down as a single device.
Theory:
Project Scarlett isn't just a newer console, but a rebranding opportunity for XBox.
Games play across X0, X0X, NuXBox, with higher performance on newer hardware.
Eventually we get higher hw exclusives, and the older consoles are discontinued when we get a mid-cycle upgrade. It'd be similar to phones in a way.
This explains the cross-gen talk.
It's a little complex, but he also mentioned he would have to take care not to confuse people.
Theory:
Project Scarlett isn't just a newer console, but a rebranding opportunity for XBox.
Games play across X0, X0X, NuXBox, with higher performance on newer hardware.
Eventually we get higher hw exclusives, and the older consoles are discontinued when we get a mid-cycle upgrade. It'd be similar to phones in a way.
This explains the cross-gen talk.
It's a little complex, but he also mentioned he would have to take care not to confuse people.
Yup, you're right. Looking at 970 pro benchmarks from last year, it was doing 3.5gb/s seq. read and 2.7gb/s seq. write.
Are you confirming PS5 is faster or that the diff between them is 10%?
Circa 1TF is still a decent amount of extra power.
It will and there's no way around that.
Yeah, I can see them pivoting into calling Scarlett and the older consoles collectively the "Xbox Platform" and just releases games for "Xbox".
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Yup, but I can see more/better implementations of the 'instant play' feature some PS4 games supported.
There is always something better on the horizon, at one point, you need to go or will wait forever.
Still Zen 3 is a tremendous jump to be honest. We could have ended with a CPU with at least 24 cores if not 32 and double threads for consoles if they waited another year. Imagine all the possibilities with it.
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If I have to deal with a single loading screen next-gen I'm returning my console for a full refund
Zen 3, 4 and 5 are all going to be better than the Zen 2. No pointing in waiting for the latest and greatest for every component.
faster in what sense? loading/installing? in-game texture assets load faster? i'd like to know more specifics if that's okay. :)
thank you - i really appreciate you providing us this information!
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