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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
- Thread starter Mecha Meister
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Cross gen will probably looked the same on both no matter what. And we still don't know about RT. I am more interested in GI than raw power.
I did not think it would start before we get specs from both sides lol.
This whole Sony downplaying on this thread is starting to affect me. I'm starting to think that Sony will focus too much on the SSD and will put the rest aside. It could end up being a big mistake if it happens. PS5 Pro might be revealed early in the next generation because of that.
This is what I'm wondering. I don't think 2TF comports with "very close". So, either Matt et al. knew of the 12TF target all along - meaning PS5 is in that range - or this is a surprise, and PS5 is 10+ but noticeably lower.
Thanks for the reply Chris.
Wow, that pastebin is crazy. Thanks for sharing that too!
I would consider ~15% difference or less to be very close, depending on other factors of course.
October vs December :D
Super close :)
Great news, next gen can't come soon enough.
Super close :)
Great news, next gen can't come soon enough.
Oh, I thought that was Scarlett due to dragons and fire.
Like,
Lockhart is a necessity, so they had dragons and wyverns as their SKU.
Wasn't the 360 worlds above ps3 in terms of power, at least gpu wise? It wasn't even close I thought.
If I would write anything about Scarlett it would be Sith and Jedi ;)
No one knew.
If true, I hope that people stop putting all their faith in insiders and ambiguous one line posts.
15% difference in Anaconda favor? That literally means 12 tf Anaconda and 10.2 tf PS5.
That would be in line with the "MS wants to surprise" rumour from tomwarren. And since the pastebin seems to be almost spot on with specs, it could be indeed true.
I'll be honest, I'd have been happy with 10tf for PS5, but if MS manages to get Anaconda to 12 and still sell it at the same price range, I'll be a bit disappointed with the PS5. If those rumours are true, PS5 must be cheaper.
Ah, there it is.
I'd consider that a significant but not large gap. Certainly not the XB1/XBS-ish difference that was previously discussed.
Who the eff would want a 300w console that sounds like a jet enigne next to their TV? Especially in this day and age, with things being as bad as they are economically and environmentally?
Imagine what that thing would look and sound like. I know you like to play TF Bingo in here but before you happily jump onto every ridiculous rumor out there just spare a thought about what the downsides are going to be for a console that is that power hungry. Navi isn't nearly efficient enough to preserve a console form factor while being silent at 12 TF. Perfomance per watt for 7nm Navi scales almost the same as performance per watt for 12nm Turing. So we're talking 2080 Super performance and power draw here. Not to mention that's just the GPU, this time it won't be paired with a netbook/tablet CPU but with something that is competitive to mid range PC CPUs.
The other factor is price. Do you really believe you will be able to buy a console by this time next year that rivals todays high end/entry level enthusiast PCs (at least from a GPU perspective) for 399 USD?
Yeah Ampere will blow all of this stuff away and RDNA 2 will have performance per watt improvements and a node shrink, but those will be very recent developments by the time the new consoles will be released, as in the Nvidia 3000 series of cards and the AMD 6000 series of cards will be a few months old at most. Thhis 12 TF rumor also makes Lockhart look even worse than before, as unlikely as that seems.
Imagine what that thing would look and sound like. I know you like to play TF Bingo in here but before you happily jump onto every ridiculous rumor out there just spare a thought about what the downsides are going to be for a console that is that power hungry. Navi isn't nearly efficient enough to preserve a console form factor while being silent at 12 TF. Perfomance per watt for 7nm Navi scales almost the same as performance per watt for 12nm Turing. So we're talking 2080 Super performance and power draw here. Not to mention that's just the GPU, this time it won't be paired with a netbook/tablet CPU but with something that is competitive to mid range PC CPUs.
The other factor is price. Do you really believe you will be able to buy a console by this time next year that rivals todays high end/entry level enthusiast PCs (at least from a GPU perspective) for 399 USD?
Yeah Ampere will blow all of this stuff away and RDNA 2 will have performance per watt improvements and a node shrink, but those will be very recent developments by the time the new consoles will be released, as in the Nvidia 3000 series of cards and the AMD 6000 series of cards will be a few months old at most. Thhis 12 TF rumor also makes Lockhart look even worse than before, as unlikely as that seems.
Might as well make one final prediction before everything is officially announced.
Lockhart
GPU: 24cu (28 total) @ ~1,400Mhz = ~4.3TF (Assuming this would mean = Xbox One X 6TF)
CPU: 3.5Ghz
RAM: 14GB GDDR6 (6 1GB chips / 4 2GB chips) @ 560GB/s
SSD: 1TB
Anaconda
GPU: 52cu (56 total) @ ~1,900Mhz = ~12.65TF
CPU: 3.5Ghz
RAM: 16GB GDDR6 (4 1GB chips / 6 2GB chips) @ 560GB/s
SSD: 1TB
PS5
GPU: 52cu (56 total) @ ~1,950Mhz = ~12.98TF
CPU: 3.2Ghz
RAM: 16GB GDDR6 (8 2GB chips) @ 512GB/s
SSD: 1TB
Lockhart
GPU: 24cu (28 total) @ ~1,400Mhz = ~4.3TF (Assuming this would mean = Xbox One X 6TF)
CPU: 3.5Ghz
RAM: 14GB GDDR6 (6 1GB chips / 4 2GB chips) @ 560GB/s
SSD: 1TB
Anaconda
GPU: 52cu (56 total) @ ~1,900Mhz = ~12.65TF
CPU: 3.5Ghz
RAM: 16GB GDDR6 (4 1GB chips / 6 2GB chips) @ 560GB/s
SSD: 1TB
PS5
GPU: 52cu (56 total) @ ~1,950Mhz = ~12.98TF
CPU: 3.2Ghz
RAM: 16GB GDDR6 (8 2GB chips) @ 512GB/s
SSD: 1TB
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probably yes. So ps5 tamed because heating issues.
and to follow colbert twitter
stage 1 : lockhart back alive.
stage 2 : powerful Scarlett leak
stage 3 : ps5 specs, not most powerful.
at least that's what I make of it. Quite the planning. Secrets.
probably yes. So ps5 tamed because heating issues.
and to follow colbert twitter
stage 1 : lockhart back alive.
stage 2 : powerful Scarlett leak
stage 3 : ps5 specs, not most powerful.
at least that's what I make of it. Quite the planning. Secrets.
Maybe he's confirming a 14TF PS5.
Or maybe he isn't really saying anything.
he said that is what he considers to be a not significant difference, not that this is the difference, you (and i in my previous post lol) are jumping to conclusions.
It's 30% less... I guess depends on your expectations.
I think the SSDs will help free up memory required at a given point in time, all else being equal. But even with that mitigation, I wouldn't have imagined until recently that 12 (9 for the games) would be the entry point for next gen. But c'est la vie.
Don't follow me on twitter. This will allow me to search your mind and your secrets .... 🧐
Thanks for clarifying and that seems to pretty much answer what we heard today lol.
15% is an oddly specific number that matches exactly with the 10.2TF rumors
lol, the rule of two?
What are the chances of Sony being able to tame the beast?
It seems he's just replying to if there were a 2TF difference, which would be ~15%.
That just means it's under 15%, which lines up with Klee saying the difference is around XB1 and XB1S (7%)
But even then, that could be read as the difference being a rounding error (1.3 vs 1.4) so there is still some uncertainty regarding specs.
Does this mean Jedi Fallen Order won't run like shit on Anaconda?
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