Can't be that old since he knew the Xbox reveal was tonight...
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
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Can't be that old since he knew the Xbox reveal was tonight...
I really appreciate you klee.
One thing that has caused some confusion is weather the ps5 is still 5-10% more powerful then a 12 navi tflop Xbox series X.
1. No one from MS or even Phil mention any actual TFLOPS numbers of XSX GPU.
2. GCN and RDNA TFLOPS aren't like-for-like.
Compared to GCN, RDNA delivers 1.25x performance per clock as per AMD. Which means when Phil quoted XSX GPU is 2x of X1X GPU it means XSX GPU's TFLOPS will be around 9.6-10 TFLOPS because this is RDNA.
if it's actually 12TF then this makes XSX GPU 11x faster than base Xbox One and 2.5x faster than X1X and not the 8x and 2x numbers quoted by Phil Spencer.
Thank you so much Klee for all you have done.
Can't wait for Feb 2020 to see the unveiling of the beastly PS5. Bring It On!
Please don't let it get to you. Posters are in here using your posts as fanboy console war ammo and not realizing all their stupidity is driving great people like yourself away. I'm just glad we'll be done with this shit in only a few months.
Truth is i expect stuff like that for next gen .
You look at games like DS, TLOU2 and DMCV which made for a base of 1.3 to 1.8 TF systems .
Now look how huge the jump is next gen .
Hellblade was and in engine demo. I wouldn't worry about fps or make any assumptions based on something designed to show you the possibilities.
Dude, you have no idea!
IMO, next gen games are going to blow minds and melt faces.
Well, I can't vouch for what they will look like on Lockhart because IDK.
PS5 and games on the, um XBSX will look amazing for sure.
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I think the majority of people reading this thread deeply appreciates your posts (and patience), even if hot takers post more about them.
12TF isn't going to be midrange next year. It's entirely possible the next Ti will be well over 20 TF, but I don't see the 3070 card reducing the next gen consoles to midrange territory.
Has anyone noticed any off-screen action being reflected?
jfc this thread has grown
Anyway, probably already posted but I guess this is the first glimpse of gameplay from a next-gen game:
Reflections are nice.
Has anyone noticed any off-screen action being reflected?
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Yup and this is a launch game. Hellblade 2 is the tip of the iceberg for next gen.
He literally said the ONLY thing that changed for him with this Scarlett update was the existence of Lockhart. I have no idea how some of you have such poor reading comprehension skills. Keep asking the same questions over and over again when he repeatedly says nothing else had changed. I'm not KLee and I'm frustrated for him.
Remember when Jimmy Hoffa is berating his lawyers in The Irishman? This post reminds me of that! LOL.
Anthony just wants confirmation to know if the Xbox is weaker or not lol.
I think it's still screen space. Just as the gift is starting, look at the bottom left. The reflection starts the moment the tree can into view. It sort of snapped in.
Now I'm even more excited! PS5 reveal event can't come soon enough.
Out of curiosity, the game you saw, Klee, how did it compare to the Hellblade demo?
Cuz that melted faces pretty damned good.
The guy that comes up the stairs isn't reflected either, I don't think. I'm nodding off though, and having trouble keeping track of things.
Was Hellblade 2 about in-line with what you've seen or have you seen even crazier things?
Ok great, if klees post mean ps5 is 5-10% more powerful then XsX 12 navi tflops then I have no further questions.
Folks are probably hoping Klee will cave and outright say which console is stronger...which he has several times.
Gotta say, it's not often crow tastes good, but I'm happy to eat it this time. Thought for sure either Sony or MS (or both) would cheap out on storage, and was proven wrong, Figured AMD would come up short, proven wrong again. Didn't think they'd have a hardware RT solution ready for dGPUs, let along consoles. Again, wrong, and I'm not the least bit bothered by it. Happy as shit about what we're getting next year. Good stuff!
Your participation in this thread is great. Thank you very much! Really livens it up.
Yep, its why some people didn't like lockhart they want to see what the full power of nextgen can be without being held back, and if ingame is even close to that its glorious
Who was guy adamant the consoles would not even hit 10TF. Bosch? Extremely arrogant. Ghost Trick needs to show himself too. Crow serving time!
If they want to see Hellblade on Lockhart then look at the youtube trailer in 1080p. Lockhart, according to the WindowsCentral, is supposed to scale XBSX games to 1080p.
Hey im just saying what peoples point of view was, if thats the case more power to em
Wow, that was some crazy unexpected stuff from Xbox tonight. Something that is interesting from a tech standpoint in the official Xbox blog post about the next gen console is "Additionally, our patented Variable Rate Shading (VRS) technology will allow developers to get even more out of the Xbox Series X GPU." They may both have some type of VRS, but they definitely included the word "patented" here too, so I expect some interesting things with details on their implementation after seeing some of the early Forza Horizon demos of this and such.
As to eventual power in the retail consoles, it really can't be ignored logically here that Xbox came out first and are not shying away from words about power in the messaging here and the direct quote from Phil Spencer in an interview with this reveal that "We like leading in power and performance and I feel like we're going to be there again." I see some talking about it being just for marketing and PR, but that is major confidence being shown as we end this year heading into next. They are definitely the ones that have openly talked more about power than Sony. This isn't just chatter or information coming from one place here or there, it is the platform holder themselves presenting things that directly.
As to eventual power in the retail consoles, it really can't be ignored logically here that Xbox came out first and are not shying away from words about power in the messaging here and the direct quote from Phil Spencer in an interview with this reveal that "We like leading in power and performance and I feel like we're going to be there again." I see some talking about it being just for marketing and PR, but that is major confidence being shown as we end this year heading into next. They are definitely the ones that have openly talked more about power than Sony. This isn't just chatter or information coming from one place here or there, it is the platform holder themselves presenting things that directly.
NRS is the only studio making big budget fighting games. Injustice 3 is probably going to look stupid good.
This whole thread is crow serving time. It's basically been 7 OT's of everyone being wrong at every turn and still acting like know-it-alls.
To be honest, before Navi most peoples predictions were very Conservative.
It's ray traced. You can't see the trees reflection initially because of the giant rock behind it. You can see it's ray traced when the camera pans down after the slam and you see the tree canopy without it being on screen. Also the guy approaching from the right occludes the blue lights, but they still show in the reflection on the floor (look for the reflection between his legs towards the end of the gif).
He is reflected, it can be a little hard to see at the beginning because the big guys shadow falls across the reflection for a short bit.
Capcom and Namco have been a mixed bag.
With Capcom, on one hand you have SFV with looks pretty great, then on other hand you have MvC Infinite which looks pretty shit.
Namco, you have Tekken 7 which looks great, then you have SC 6 which looks...decent.
I hope they both get the budget they need to deliver in spades
I know NRS is going to deliver. Injustice 3 ,or whatever their next game is, is gonna look like a movie.
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I remembered when an 'industry veteran' told us his source said next gen consoles were 1080 tier.
God save the poor souls that believed his pile of crap.
God save the poor souls that believed his pile of crap.
Good call on the canopy. Impressive to be getting that at launch from a third party.
LOL, and the truth is it looks like these consoles will blow the doors clean off a 1080. Hell, bring RT into the equation and you can say the same about a 1080 Ti.
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