Wait so 12 Teraflops Xbox is confirmed or?
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Wait so 12 Teraflops Xbox is confirmed or?
I didn't see that post. And I'm not spreading false info here. I'm just going off of based on the information we have from Phil and the info of the per clock efficiency we have from AMD on RDNA architecture. Why are you all so rude? Like I said, I'd love to see them hit that 12 TF number, atm MS hasn't officially said anything on that. We'll see.
Because they will reach 12 Tflops, it seems Xbox Series X is two time bigger than Xbox One X and I think and it is the same for Sony the 200 watts bar will be exploded. Maybe consoles will reach the 250/270 watts bar.
We will have great next generations consoles because of the competition between Sony with MS coupled with AMD CPU and GPU technology improvement.
Phil said that its twice as powerful as One X GPU so yeah 12TF of GCN which is around 10TF of RDNA/NAVI which is more or less 5700XT at 9.75TF.
he isn't calculating on fanboys interpretation of the numbers
it's 12 TF RDNA
this is a big plus
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Your desire is totally understandable but thanks anyway.
Many are saying they gonna have nightmares with it. What I fear is now games gonna look so real so horror and gore got get improved too so things gonna turn into disasters at some point. I hope things won't be censored and devs forced to do it in all games I mean.
Pretty sure he said Hellblade was on another level. Post 19926. People continuously post misinformation over and over in here it's getting annoying like the PS5 is 10 TF.
Edit: GCN is being posted below this lol.
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Oh sooo all this time when people discussed about Teraflops they actually meant GCN not RDNA. I thought it was 12TF RDNA. Well truth to be told, it was kind of unrealistic because 12TF RDNA Navi would put gpu somewhere around 15GCN which is crazy. I guess 8-9 RDNA Teraflops are much more realistic which is comparable to RTX 2070 and probably next year's RTX/GTX 3060
Well if its twice as powerful as the One X GPU then its not 12TF RDNA. If its 12TF RDNA then its 15TF GCN which is impossible.
Impressive!
A true generational leap if we end up with games looking like that. Holy shit lmao i still can't believe what I'm seeing.
The gizmodo article said something like that and at the time everyone laughed at it.
Holy hell next gen is exciting as hell! Let's all be happy that Xbox and PS5 are awesome! Be happy!
Between the Godfall gif and the Hellblade II video, I'm with you there. I'm already blown away, and this is only just a taste of what next-gen has to offer.
This looks great. What game is that?jfc this thread has grown
Anyway, probably already posted but I guess this is the first glimpse of gameplay from a next-gen game:
Reflections are nice.
no, we use that RDNA and GCN comparison to explain the efficiency. but it's right to say that it's twice as powerful if you just compare flops.
I want to believe...but I can't yet. 12 TFlops RDNA is too much. I'm back to waiting for CES2020 in January.
Around a 2070/Super in a console is still damn good.
Around a 2070/Super in a console is still damn good.
The 5700XT does run hot and steamy :P
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That's right. Meaning it must be 9x faster. Which is 2x of X1X GPU 12 TF (GCN). In RDNA this is around 10 TF.
If it's 12 TF (RDNA), in GCN this would be 15 TF, which makes the new Series X GPU slightly over 11x powerful than base Xbox One.
Phew amazing.
Off topic, I need to buy a USB kill and sabotage my tv next year. My partner won't here of buying a new one whilst our lounge tv works.
Well, you're wrong.
Because it's twice as powerful, but that's not including the efficiency contributed to the architecture.
It doesn't include RDNA's efficiency. It's over 1.4 x 8 and around 2 x 6.
no, it's 12 TF compared to 6 TF
Sorry for crushing your dreams
There's a significant qualifier though...
They can advertise it as the fastest and most powerful Xbox ever, that sets a bar for everything in relation to their platform family, without being wrong even if a more powerful system would emerge from any of the competitors. It's just plain old marketing speech. Now, if they'd advertise it as "the most powerful next generation console", like PS4 was advertised, it would be a different matter.
Hell, this pic is from the local DigiExpo event in 2013, before the current gen systems were launched.
Translated:
"Xbox One - The best console of new generation on display."
Phil has consistently said that XB1X is 4x to 4.5x over XB1 even though the real world perf is 5-6X.
When the DF deep dive comes out you'll see the exact CU count and clock speeds, and everyone has faith in DF to provide the exact numbers.
I think by twice as strong they mean the brute numbers, regardless of architecture and not taking in consideration the boost RDNA brings.
Yeah this works out and Phil never mentioned TF numbers, just the multipliers of current-gen consoles.
12TF RDNA is about 10.7X the Xbox One S GPU (best case)
makes no sense to say "over 8X" otherwise.
That doesn't sound right though. Surely it would be inclusive.
By base Xbox One, in the 'more than 8x' comparison, I assume he means the Xbox One S (1.4Tflops).
'Over 8' doesn't make sense for the original Xbox One - at most it would bring it short of 12Tflops. [Over 8 presumably means less than 9 - otherwise I'm sure he'd have said over 9! 9x 1.31 = 11.79 ... so I don't think the very original Xbox One can be the point of reference ]
On the other hand, something like 8.6x or 8.75x Xbox One S would be something like 12.1 or 12.25Tflops, which sounds about right, and fits 2x the Xbox One X.
'Over 8' doesn't make sense for the original Xbox One - at most it would bring it short of 12Tflops. [Over 8 presumably means less than 9 - otherwise I'm sure he'd have said over 9! 9x 1.31 = 11.79 ... so I don't think the very original Xbox One can be the point of reference ]
On the other hand, something like 8.6x or 8.75x Xbox One S would be something like 12.1 or 12.25Tflops, which sounds about right, and fits 2x the Xbox One X.
Hope next gen consoles don't suffer from cooling problem with these monster specs.
I have confidence that both Sony and Microsoft will deliver
Brad Sams and Tom Warren said it, that it's at 12 teraflops, and not including improvements in silicon architecture.
Although you could say they're covering their ass in case of a bad case scenario and even then I'd think they'd reach somewhere to the north of 11.5
If I were Phil Spencer, and this box were actually 12 TF RDNA, I would not throw away the opportunity to be able to tout 15 TFLOPS when that may actually be technically correct. Similarly, I would not throw away the opportunity to compare like for like when it comes to how powerful the Xbox One X was vs this new box, and say "2 times more powerful" instead of "1.7 times more powerful but actually you gotta take into account ..."
Not saying this is the cast, but I wouldn't entirely rule out the notion of this being GCN flops.
Not saying this is the cast, but I wouldn't entirely rule out the notion of this being GCN flops.
There's no doubt Series X GPU will be twice as powerful, I'm not saying that it isn't going to be.
But when looking purely at the TFLOP numbers alone, you won't see 2x jump. 2x of X1X GPU in RDNA terms is 9.6 TF, not 12 TF. So around 10.5 TF for the Series X GPU seems like a safe bet.
In the original speaking there is no such word "base".
You can see another gamespot report.
So I assume xsx is 8.5x flops of X1s.
that's wrong. If you look purely at teraflop numbers alone, it's a jump from 6 teraflops to 12.
If you look at teraflop numbers + efficiency improvements, there's when it's different.
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