Klee has said on multiple occasions that the PS5 is still slightly more powerful then scarlett according to his dev source.
Can it change? Yes of course, but klee is the most reliable info we have at the moment.
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Klee has said on multiple occasions that the PS5 is still slightly more powerful then scarlett according to his dev source.
Can it change? Yes of course, but klee is the most reliable info we have at the moment.
Wrong. Tflops are proportional to clocks. The Nvidia GPUs have better performance per Tflop than the GCN GPUs
There are parts of the GPU that are boosted by clocks, including pixel engine, geometry engine, render backend. Given two GPUs with the same flops, the GPU with the higher clock is always better performing.
The larger your die, the harder it is to achieve higher clocks.Didn't he say that according to Target specs Sony is aiming slightly higher/more powerfull?
From leaks we are all assuming that Sony is pushing their hardware to the limit and MS coming across cocky seems like they are holding back and will increase clock speeds while having higher CU count. They already had two great cooling solutions in a row, I don't see how they mess up the next one.
Speaking of cooling, does anyone know if that huge hole on Scarlett? motherboard(bottom right in e3 video) is for some type of cooling?
RE: that PS5 controller, did anyone read the patent's description? Would really be surprised if it's for the controller as a whole and not for a specific function of the controller.
The controller's look and shape would relate more to an industrial design anyway. Although in some countries like the US, patents and IDs are interchangeable it seems. (I've worked for 12 years at the Canadian IP office, although in communications, not as an examiner or anything like that though)
You guys also need to keep in mind that if we're seeing this patent now, it must have been filed 1 to 3 years ago as patents are kept private for a pretty good amount of time. So that MS controller has probably been file a while ago too.
The controller's look and shape would relate more to an industrial design anyway. Although in some countries like the US, patents and IDs are interchangeable it seems. (I've worked for 12 years at the Canadian IP office, although in communications, not as an examiner or anything like that though)
You guys also need to keep in mind that if we're seeing this patent now, it must have been filed 1 to 3 years ago as patents are kept private for a pretty good amount of time. So that MS controller has probably been file a while ago too.
Exactly. MS is coming in with a massive library on day one with the Scarlett, complete with new games.
I keep seeing you post this matter-of-factly, when in fact there is a huge helping of your own speculation you're including in this summary of the flute leak.
The fluke leak showed 16x 1GByte chips. They could be two 8-high stacks of HBM for all we know. Equally the bandwidth shown was measured bandwidth, which simply will not let you infer total system bandwidth from those numbers.
If you're referencing the fluke leak, please stick to the facts of the leak and clearly designate any of your own speculation as speculation. Otherwise, we get into next-gen spec Chinese whispers, where posters start quoting speculation as assumed fact based on a leak it was never included in to begin with.
Depends entirely on GPU microarchitecture and the difference in clockspeed between the two. A lower clocked 2TF RDNA GPU will beat the shit out of a hypothetical 2TF Xenos; the difference in microarchitectural efficiency more than makes up for any clockspeed difference as higher clocks will always make any frontend and scheduling architectural deficiencies more apparent.
Both Xbox Scarlett and PlayStation 5 have greater than 10.0TF GPU performance.
Expandable Storage Patent - Unrelated
Well, pretty much confirmed that those cartridges are indeed expandable storage for the PS5. Sony updated the patent:
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Just a confirmation, this is from your dev source, who stated as far as he knows?
Is this a leaked filing application? Let's go digital is linking this to their own server instead of JPO.Well, pretty much confirmed that those cartridges are indeed expandable storage for the PS5. Sony updated the patent:
edit: If they're still updating the patent itself, it shouldn't be something that's public.
When you file a patent, there's a non-disclosure timeline, that's 18 to 36 months in Canada. Afaik Japan has something similar.
Edit: It's 18 months now. I think it used to be longer.
Has anything changed since you found out more about Scarlett?
please dont be the vita all over again.Well, pretty much confirmed that those cartridges are indeed expandable storage for the PS5. Sony updated the patent:
i dont see why they cant just add an m.2 nvme slot. they barely take any space.
Double digit RDNA flop hype!
Custom SSD hype!Well, pretty much confirmed that those cartridges are indeed expandable storage for the PS5. Sony updated the patent:
To clarify, an update would be most likely be a follow-up to a patent examiner's questions. The reason for the 18 months of not going public with a patent is that it can take up to 2-3 years to get a patent granted. If it's granted it'll be retro-actively be valid from date of filing. But if something goes wrong and it's not granted, well you would have shown everyone your ideas publicly and not have any protections.
That 10.0TF specifically with the ".0"..
One of them could be in the 10.xTF.
The next revision of PS5 SDKs are due before the end of the year. That would be the third one in 2019, IIRC.
A good question. I suppose they will be fairly priced after the Vita situation.
Either way, I'm still on the 500GB PS4 with more than enough space. It won't be much of a concern for me.
Looks like the point of this is that you can insert from outside the device. m.2 isn't made for that.
i'm curious about that expansion because that's a big space for a label. I mean if its only for something like "1TB STORAGE SONY"
it would be weird wouldn't? It reminds me of snes labels on the cartridges
it would be weird wouldn't? It reminds me of snes labels on the cartridges
Well it wouldn't say Sony, would it.
It'd be "PlayStation 5" or something along those lines.
It needs to be custom, else how can they secure that all users have the exact same type of storage? A m.2 nvme slot would defeat the whole benefit of having the exact same storage on all consoles.
Imagine the stock one can hit eg: 5GB/s and you're SSD can only reach let's say 500mb/s. It's the Insomniac's Spiderman Technical Postmortem shitshow all over again, in which they had to spend several months optimizing the game so it could run on different HDD's with speeds lower than the stock one.
We know the patent is for the wrap around mic. There's pages of discussion about it. We also know the design is different from the ds4 patent and if all they really wanted to show was the mic, they could've just put the mic on a ds4 design.
The threadmark should take you to the start of the discussion.
No, the tech demo shows a tiger. Therefore this instead confirms The Jungle Book in real time is happening
Are you ok with this being threadmarked? Because it should be.
Exactly. I'm ok with the idea of expandable storage but am worried it means 500Gb base and worried another 500Gb means an extra $100+.
👑 Klee can you tell us if one console is greater than 11?
Probably prototype II now sicne the Prototype I leaked. I think the early devkit started with PC parts and Vega architecture, then this Prortotype I has current RNDA architecture with low number of CUS hence the exaggerated GPU clock speed and the devkit design with too many vents. Next iteration could implement RDNA 2 tech that not only have HW RT built in but also will be surely more optimised than RDNA1 and will offer more CUs so no need for that high frequency. Everything will be fine until the findal devkit and design.
don't think he met his dev freidn again after and the latetr only nodded his head to indiacte that will be over 10 tFlops. That is all.
Is it normal to have this many revisions prior to a new gen?
Let's be honest, the OP is incredibly dense at this point.
Prorbaly next ieteration will include RDNA 2. It's not surprising. devs shoudl start developing games with that have at that current time. they must have started with GCN Vega devkits, then shifted to RDNA with custom added RT, then in preparation for next-year, they may get RDNA 2 in the final design.
Was tis posted before? https://www.psu.com/news/ps5-backwards-compatibility-old-playstation-games-rumor/
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The article claims that twitter poster is reliable: Here is what he posted recently:
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