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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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Obviously not...oh well.
What do you make of what Gemusepizza found about Ariel BC? Without a doubt now it is the PS5 GPU?
Is it possible that the second one could mean previous generations?
He said "don't take it as gospel" and he is trying to verify that. Did he ever do that?
not really, BC for previous gens would be done via emulation.
xbox doesnt have "BC modes" for xbox 360 and og xbox either
Files are from April - June 2019, haven't found any timestamps for tests in the files.
It's mostly likely that Sparkman is Anaconda it was found to have 560gb/s.
Oberon file name in project Arden is not a mistake I think. Probably Shakespeare names like Arden, Arial, Oberon, Gonzalo and Flute are all codenames related to PS5.
Oberon file name in project Arden is not a mistake I think. Probably Shakespeare names like Arden, Arial, Oberon, Gonzalo and Flute are all codenames related to PS5.
Yeah,i hope everybody can see this post you made to avoid any confusion:
"I'm seeing gen0 BC mode for Arden for 4 RBEs aka 16 ROPs. Only console with 16 ROPs is xb1.Also seeing gen1 BC mode for Arden that matches 1x."
Either this or it's some weird coincidence where Sony names are all Shakespeare related and somehow MS decided to name one of theirs similar too, Sparkman and Anaconda have nothing to do with Shakespeare.
Havent found anything relating to the clk speed... probably less than 1,7 GHz for 12 TFlops?
Well damn that basically proves it.
Still strange that all these PS5 code words are connected to Shakespeare and also including Arden but the code words we also have rumored for Xbox Anubis, Sparkman is not connected to Shakespeare.
Edit: hmqgg also mentioned that XsX is Dante and that is another writer like Shakespeare. This is so confusing...
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Shame that there are no differences between Sparkman and Arden and only theoretical limits are in the files.
Interestingly onle 64 ROPs with a 320-Bit memory interface, which would indicate that Oberon/PS5 would have the higher/better pixel rate thanks to the 2 GHz clk.
If it wasn't for AquariusZ, I would have thought Lockhart was just the binned Anaconda.
I thinking those size are wrong for these APU at least on 7nm
Alright, I've hopped off my hopes, dreams, and feels train (which had PS5 at 13TF and XSX at 14TF, among other things). I'm now on the PS5 at 9.2TF and XSX at 12TF bandwagon.
This thread is crazy lol. Look guys a 9.2tf matching Nvidia flops with a 16 thread ryzen 2 CPU and a nvme drive for a console costing 399 is amazing. I built a PC with ryzen 3600, 2070 super and nvme 4 months ago that cost me £1200. This is about the same performance and it's a beast. Ps5 is gonna be 9.2tf Xbox series x is gonna be 10tf Navi. Theses are consoles you ain't getting the very best tech. If you want that it's PC every time. These are gonna be very powerful consoles. Look what they achieved with base Xbox one and PS4. You all crazy yo.
If that is the difference will be interesting with prices.
I would reckon PS5 would be 399 and XSX 500-600
Interesting, ps4 pro has higher/better pixel rate than xox
Yeah I also think that is going to be the case. Good specs for both IMHO. Sony is going for price, MS for power.
Probably also better/higher geometry perfomance (both have 4 prim/clk --> Oberon 2 GHz, Arden 1,7Ghz)
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I wonder how RT will be.
Guess we will have to fully see how it's done by AMD.
There are Raytracing results for Arden/Sparkman, but none for Ariel/Oberon (at least in the one file im currently looking at).
We will never know... anyway... it generated some great speculations :) Some of them crazy wild.
Nothing is for certain yet .
There still Oberon not having hardware RT when we know PS5 has it.
Of the 3rd option. Both are 9 TF machines. MS never confirmed 12 TF.
No stop this, please, don't go down this road. Klee even vetted himself multiple times.
According to these regression tests...
PS5 has 18% pixel, geometry, texture engine advantage.
Xsx has a 30% compute advantage, 25% BW advantage. Possible RT+ VRS advantage.
More than anything I think the BW deficit is the most concerning.
It really is. I keep saying it.
9TF should comfortably deliver me 1080/60 100% of the time on my perfect Panasonic Plasma
I was wondering if that would scale with clocks and what would be the effect .
But we not see AMD RT in action yet so i guess you can't be certain what will happen.
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