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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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What an odd couple of days. I know we're extrapolating potential PS5 specs from tiny tidbits and things don't add up right now, but but the recent PS5 info has put me on a downer. I'm platform agnostic, but this is the first gen where I didn't pick up an MS box because both the hardware and software went in a different direction to what I enjoy, whilst Sony doubled down on what I love in console gaming. If MS has the better box and Halo: Infinite manages to encapsulate the best of the genre then I'll pick it up at launch, but will be sad Sony won't be at the forefront of my path onto the next gen.
Yeah final kits from around July but if Sony follow what they did with PS4 the APU/RAM won't change or will only be tweaked. I'd imagine if the reveal is in February then they'll want demos to be on final spec hardware?
Halo Infinite has to be good. If it's great I can see MS getting a lot of their fans back that switched this gen. Halo is one of those games.
Ah i see. Thanks.
Yet another thing that doesn't add up. Remember the ram bandwidth leak doesn't line up with the flute leak either.
MS invented vapor chamber exotic liquid cooling. They know how the xsx needs to look in order to dissipate 'bout 350w of heat.
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Right but seeing how this devkit doesn't contain HW RT, I think the final devkit will be a lot different.
With maybe higher TFs, idk Im trying to make sense how Klee and Jason Schrier said the 2 consoles are practically the same.
Boom
4TF GCN aint happening. That thing won't even be able to replicate X1X performance for BC and they definitely won't run BC etc in OG Xbox One mode on a new console.
It's 12TF RDNA
What was the bandwidth on Flute? I just remember it had a 155% benchmark score or something but not any specific numbers.
Went looking and found it https://m.imgur.com/gallery/i3TnTKk
I believe this was the first time Lockhart was brought up, anyone else know?
big oof at those studio acquisition rumors. Looks like much of this has been accurate tho.
What the hell did I miss?
I see talk of a PS4 Pro 2. Is this Sony's answer to the 4TF Lockhart?
The fuck is going on.
I see talk of a PS4 Pro 2. Is this Sony's answer to the 4TF Lockhart?
The fuck is going on.
I hope so, but Halo means many different things to many different people by now. I'm one of those that still think the blueprint for the perfect Halo game lies in the first's Silent Cartographer level. I hope the new Halo can find a way to balance the story it wants to tell with more explorative, open sections.
Summary of the last 20 pages (Joke)
asobo wasn't a terrible guess considering it was pre-flightsim announcement
but I think beyond the giant whiff on acquisitions, rumors don't point to an AI chip and the SSD had better be faster than 1GB/s
I think you're missing the fact that MS hasn't announced anything regarding Lockhart. (Right?)
This is part that has seemingly gone unanswered...
Are they saying that Lockhart is ~3TF RDNA?
Good.
I know there were bogus rumors before PS4 was revealed, but it seems like the amount of bogus rumors this time has increased tremendously this time.
I mean it is possible series x when they say 2x performance/flops they are making a gcn conversion. In fact I'd say it's a pretty strong likelihood MS marketing folks are doing exactly that.
I don't really see how that possibility relates at all to lockheart, a system that hasn't been publicly announced and we have no MS public statements on.
Friend, sources that said the XSX is 12TF also said Lockhart is 4TF. Both are either RDNA or GCN figures. Y'all can't mix and match....
you can if you're not talking about sources/rumors. MS has publicly said series x is at 2x the x and they've said nothing about Lockhart.
Just catching up with the thread but if PS5 is only 36CU then it is damn disappointing.
They went from 18 cu (PS4) to 36 cu (PS4 Pro) and their next gen machine has the same number of cu? Couldn't they have continued with the butterfly design and added a third wing, so you have 18cu, 18cu, 18cu so you could have full 54CU in PS5 mode and then deactivate 18cu for each Bc mode?
What was the point of all the r&d with design and breaking through the 64cu GCN limit if you were just sticking with 36CU?
Real bizarro twist. This has been some ride so far!
They went from 18 cu (PS4) to 36 cu (PS4 Pro) and their next gen machine has the same number of cu? Couldn't they have continued with the butterfly design and added a third wing, so you have 18cu, 18cu, 18cu so you could have full 54CU in PS5 mode and then deactivate 18cu for each Bc mode?
What was the point of all the r&d with design and breaking through the 64cu GCN limit if you were just sticking with 36CU?
Real bizarro twist. This has been some ride so far!
Well it isn't referenced in that Github source apparently but it doesn't actually mean it isn't there at all. In any case I'm going into the reveal thinking <10TF and then can come out grinning if >10TF.
amd still wants to make a large die high end discrete gpu for lots of reasons. The console market isn't their reason to want more than 64 cus at all.
You lot are all fucking crazy.
The two consoles will be somewhat similar in power because console wars just aren't that interesting at the end of the day.
The two consoles will be somewhat similar in power because console wars just aren't that interesting at the end of the day.
We really need to find this out.
Who here has found the database on github? Are the bug fixes that rogame tweeted timestamped?
Amen. Hardware, SOC, everything is all speculation until it's formally announced. No sense capitulating until we "officially" know more about how these consoles will perform upon retail release.
Why would you need more than 4 GCN TF for 1080p gaming on a budget console below 400€ ? Just use proven cheaper technology to reach that low entry price.
It is not that we are arguing GCN TF, Spencer was the one that said double XBX and 10 times vanilla XBO performance. And that happens to be... around 12GCN TF. But maybe you believe insiders more than a MS guy. Had he said double TF things would be more ambiguous considering insider info. But he didn't.
I also think it just makes common sense to keep next generation reasonably affordable, so something in the 10 RDNA TF is really good, and around the usual jump in performance each generation.
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Most of us are here to discuss current news. We just don't know how it will all shake out yet.
Navi10 doesn't have RT. This ain't what we'll be seeing in the reveal next year.
I'm till firmly on team 12-14TF.
Maybe it's 36 WGP (Workgroup Processor) and thus, 72cu.
That makes more sense. PS4 18cu, PS4 Pro 36cu, PS5 72cu
That makes more sense. PS4 18cu, PS4 Pro 36cu, PS5 72cu
Yes. It makes sense for a 1080P GPU to be 4X less powerful than a 4K GPU. (however we are measuring the power)
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