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I wonder if the price inflation would make Lockhart a no go.. what would be the point if the price wasn't half with 1/3 of the performance.
Idk... I know you can get a 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD at retail for as low as $114.
Back in 2013, a 500GB 2.5" HDD cost around $60. sony/ms ended up paying about half that to get that in their consoles.
I also expect that sony/ms aren't going to be using a consumer of the shelf solution for their SSD, and that it would be embedded on the board, which to e means that it should be even cheaper than otherwise just making a bulk order or SSDs.
I hope they go back to clickable buttons. My ps4 was plagued by disc ejects until I covered it with adhesive.
But ps5 is shaping up to be a pretty sweet system, I'm happy they're taking cooling, and noise levels seriously this time around.
It's almost a daily occurrence now. Hope we get useful info soon.Good morning...
Lot of his reports were far from being right.
For istance he described Switch as a console with " State of the art components" or said in 2018 that a Switch Pro would have been released in 2019 ( won't even be out in 2020 ) or said in 2017 that Nintendo was looking to ship between 25 and 30 M of console in 2018.
I couldn't find a link to the original article, but on page 911 on the other site, it's being discussed/translated (post post-256873578).
What flash supplier do we assume for Sony and MS? Samsung, Micron, Intel?
The 1TB SSDs at those prices are not the >3GB/s models consoles are rumored to be receiving.
That anonymous reddit post from a while back with no source listed? Yeh...I'm not going to give that much attention.
And to think, MS and Sony were both nervous last gen about consoles dying!
Great news, console sales aren't going anywhere. It's funny how many people declared with absolute certainty that this generation would be the 'beginning of the end' for the traditional home console.
I fully expect PS5/XSX to sell just as much as this gen if not more.
He has misattributed and misconstrued quotes from Sony executives before publishing misleading stories from them.
where is this gif originally from? I wanna watch that.Good morning...
We must be twins as I was looking forward to some DS myself for it's calming affect on me.
They were? Pretty sure it was just bullshit from the media.
Dictator man please please please give us some info, someting to latch onto something you might've gleaned yourself but also holding onto yourself, please share some today.
You're on an enthusiast forum so I think drawing from this crowd isn't going to give accurate results. Nobody in the mainstream is going to buy a console based on teraflops, lol.
User banned (1 day): Trolling. Platform wars.
Search your feelings. You know why.
That's what is happening when you start to listening the "analysts".
At least, this time, they wasn't cheap on hardware. Even if we don't know everything, going from a very slow HDD (even at that time) to a high performance SSD is already quite something.
I think you mean the BS FUD-peddling media. Sony and MS were acutely aware of what their own sales and marketing data were telling them; and it wasn't that consoles didn't have a future.
This.
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Transistor , the poll should have an option, "What's a corndog?" for those of us not from North America who are unfamiliar with the savoury corn-based treat in question.
Putting the journalist aside for a minute, that's interesting context for the niche/hardcore quotes that are often mentioned in here.
Oh no, I am on the same boat. I already know what I wanted (SSD + Zen2 + Navi + HW RT + PS4 BC), I let details to console wars.
Now, I want to see games !!!
I was quite critical of Kojima and the marketing plan around Death Stranding, it seemed incoherent and vague. Thus, I didn't pay it much attention in terms of reading previews and what not. I never felt as if I truly grasped what the game was "about."
I went in blind and now I'm hooked. I'm delivering ALL the packages. I'm building and cooperating and really enjoying myself. And the game is highly impressive on a technical level too; wandering around the world, taking in the vistas. I'm currently on chapter 3 just trying to 5 star all the preppers. The change of pace from the usual shootbangs I've played is wonderful.
I've gotten to savor an embarrassment of riches on PlayStation 4 this generation. Whatever the PS5 is on a technical level, I'm in. I want to experience whatever the next God of War, Horizon, Spiderman, etc. have to offer.
Agreed. So weird that people always expect the same....Only because it happend once.
Wasn't he the first person to say that lockhart was canceled? Or am i remembering wrong?
Sorry to hear. Working in the weekend is always crappy! ;)
haven't played it myself yet....I really need to buy it.
Pretty sure this is accurate. The Wii, 3DS, Vita, and WiiU all either suffered serious declines or completely crashed and burned prior to the ps4/xbo launches, and mobile was the primary cause.
There were definitely concerns about console viability at that time.
Microsoft would want to hold on $499 because they would be competitive with a $499 PS5.
It seems like MS were expecting PS5 to be $399, so if that gets bumped in price to $499 then it's in Xbox's best interest to maintain their price for an actual competition with PS5. They would also know by now what advantages PS5 has so if the rumors are true that PS5 has a better GPU, it hurts MS a lot less if the consoles are the same price, instead of it being $100 cheaper than the Series X.
Microsoft don't really lose much and if anything they actually gain by sticking with $499 while Sony does have to choose between $399 and $499.
It sounds a bit war chest like, but I think Phil can justify to Nadella why they shouldn't put the Series X at $599.
Man I envy you in terms of going in blind, I read some reviews which were pretty damning but knowing his oeuvre and Kojima being Kojima I still bought the game and I was blown away even by the core game mechanic many paints as 'walking simulator' I'm on chapter 6 and 210hrs in, I was 100+ in chapter 3 alone.... I really love the vistas, and trying to figure out the best way to deliver maximum amount of cargo, and then the game surprises you with a revolutionary change and then does the same fucking thing again and your whole formula to calculate that changes twice over. I am also still trying to 5 star peppers and I can still discover a thing I haven't seen or a gameplay mechanic I was unaware of, really it blows my mind. After this game, I decided to avoid graded reviews with extreme prejudice. Reading some emails or preppier interviews is so much better than reading those reviews, as I am constantly thinking of how it actually applies to our current day and age and the society we live in and its exactly leaving my feeling dumbfounded as I wasn't expecting anything like this from the game.
Seriously, DS on the surface is something that makes no sense. Even playing it doesn't make much more sense, but when you actually get into the loop, it strangely fun and addictive to deliver packages.
I went in blind as well because I wanted to experience it for myself, good or bad. I love it.
Haha, it's from an American comedy series called "Community." I think that particular scene is from S3E4.
The show is Community. Its the 3rd season I think?
EDIT Beaten like a Pastebin rumor
my guess would be Samsung. I could see sony landing a pretty good deal for RAM and storage from them.
True, but there isn't anything out there that falls in line with what we are supposedly receiving.
Furthermore, the PCIe 4 is more about the APU, followed by the SSD controller. NAND flash is just NAND flash.
So the question is, where is sony getting their controller from, and where are they getting their NAND flash chips from? They don't have to be from the same place. Now how much does 1TB worth of NAND flash cost? how much does controller with DRAM cost? Thes are things we should be looking at if we really wanna narrow down the cost of a storage solution, and this would be so much easier if sony were just going to use some off the shelf SSD solution. Which in truth I believe it would be ultimately more expensive to attain what they are trying to do.
This is unnecessarily toxic I think; Brad covers all things MS and is not beholden to this thread to provide info on next-gen gaming. I get your frustration with the lack of information, but taking it out on folks who generally provide good information is a bad path IMO.
News was about MS Spring Hardware event, not Xbox BTW.
Bloomberg may not be tech focused, but they are one of the gold standards in the world of business reporting. Though they have been wrong about things before they are definitely a more trustworthy source than something like Business Insider or Forbes.
Relax, Cyborg.
I'm sure Sony will launch a successful PS5 and in 10 months time you won't even remember all the doom and gloom in this thread; regardless of what the TFLOPs end up being.
So it's $10-70 more. thats as wide of an estimate as 8-14 tflops.
While $450 sounds much better than $381, i dont see how that gets them to 10+ tflops with SSD, RAM and more expensive cooling especially if its taking MS $10-70 more dollars to get to 12.
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