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Analyst: Coronavirus Could Impact Xbox Series X And PS5 Production :



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Analyst: Coronavirus Could Impact Xbox Series X And PS5 Production

The continued spread of the novel coronavirus could impact the production of the Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5, according to an analyst statement.

www.forbes.com

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Yeah we'll see if coronavirus outbreak is gonna slow down in next 2 months.


Sony probably holding off reveal until April/May.

 

[Elios83]

It's honestly best to try and forget about the consoles for now. Especially since there's a chance they get delayed altogether.

I'll always peek into this thread but I'm not letting myself get excited.

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This is possible but honestly it will be avoided at all costs, even with a soft launch with shortages or wort case 2nd tier countries.
People are understimating the fact that delaying the launch even to spring 2021 would do incredible damage to the 2020 financials (especially for Sony where gaming is a key profit generator for the whole company) and it will be avoided unless there is no other option (and I don't think we are at that point, this coronavirus situation has created more paranoia than necessary, in China it is now pretty stable and now that there are many cases around the world it has turned out that more than half of the people who are positive to the virus have really bland to no symptoms at all and people are starting to understand that while it's important to avoid the spread of the virus with proper measures because it's a new virus and the global population is not immunized, this is not an other plague or ebola).
About Sony I think that they will announce the PS5 when the plan for the 2020 fiscal year is set in stone. That means we could wait until April. Obviously I hope we'll get something sooner in March but I wouldn't spend my time watching for infos and leaks every single day.

 

[Brees2Thomas]

This is wise.

I keep telling people to not expect a PS5 infodump for a while, and people keep telling me I'm wrong, because well-understood marketing principles about selling what's for sale don't exist, I guess. We'll see who's right, but it's hard to watch people keep latching onto random dates in February just because that was the month they had the PlayStation Meeting last time. And now 3-3 is the dream? With no prior announcement or build-up on Sony's part?

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That hasn't affected Microsoft's marketing approach though..that's why I'm not sold on this silence solely being because of Coronavirus.

 

[Gay Bowser]

That hasn't affected Microsoft's marketing approach though..that's why I'm not sold on this silence solely being because of Coronavirus.

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I didn't say anything about coronavirus.

I don't think Sony would have announced PS5 in February, virus or no virus. I don't think they'll announce it in the near future, either, and I think they never planned to.

Microsoft's marketing approach is different because their upcoming products are different. Microsoft doesn't have huge, generation-defining products shipping in Q2 that they should be focusing their marketing on now. It makes more sense for Microsoft to start focusing about Q4 right now than it does for Sony to start focusing on Q4 right now.

 

[Sunlight]

That hasn't affected Microsoft's marketing approach though..that's why I'm not sold on this silence solely being because of Coronavirus.

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Because XBOX doesn't.sell well in Japan and Asia, so microsoft only needs to care US and EU markets where Coronavirus spreading not as serious as Asia.

Furthermore Sony is a Japanese company, they need to care about the company image when Coronavirus outbreak happened.

 

[degauss]

I just read that the new Xbox will support the previous generation of xbox controllers which made me start thinking back to when consoles like the NES/SNES etc actually came with two controllers and if there was a possibility of them selling a bare console without a controller included this time.

Given that we seem to be getting a high-end (for it's time) console this generation, with initially razor thin margins (or even a loss on each unit), the controller cost is a reasonable percentage of the overall cost of what's in the box, and I could see being sacrificed to hit a particular retail price.

 

[Adum]

4SEs. 72 CUs 1.55 ghz. 14 tflops. wide and slow. just like cerny likes it.

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Mmmm yeah. Papa Cerny knows what's best.

I hate to burst the bubble, but I can 100% say that this is false.

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No, just let me dream of that Dino Crisis remake. OK??

It is only a toy, after all.

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Weird to say that about a multibillion dollar market. In fact, it's weird to refer to video games as just toys in this day and age. Some people build their careers around this stuff. I could go on about communities and making friends and helping people to destress after work/school. Not attacking you personally - it just irks me when people refer to video games as just toys.

 

[TheUnseenTheUnheard]

I just read that the new Xbox will support the previous generation of xbox controllers which made me start thinking back to when consoles like the NES/SNES etc actually came with two controllers and if there was a possibility of them selling a bare console without a controller included this time.

Given that we seem to be getting a high-end (for it's time) console this generation, with initially razor thin margins (or even a loss on each unit), the controller cost is a reasonable percentage of the overall cost of what's in the box, and I could see being sacrificed to hit a particular retail price.

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Lol we discussed this in the past and it didn't go well. It wouldn't happen and a shit ton of people made sure I knew that when I bought up the possibility.

 

[Nostradamus]

That hasn't affected Microsoft's marketing approach though..that's why I'm not sold on this silence solely being because of Coronavirus.

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How do you know that? Because they posted mostly rehashed info? Next-gen marketing for me starts when I finally see proper next-gen gameplay. The closest we have so far is Godfall.

 

[thuway]

That hasn't affected Microsoft's marketing approach though..that's why I'm not sold on this silence solely being because of Coronavirus.

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Conspiracy theorizing why Sony is silent isn't smart.


Sony has games to actually push and one which has pie in the sky expectations.


Microsoft wants this generation to end ASAP.

 

[Jade1962]

Couldn't the Kojipro info just be a look at DS for PC?

 

[Deleted member 10747]

If only we had competent journalists and entertainment media to pull out the information out of those companies and worry more about reporting on them than pleasing them. Oh well.

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You mean those that wanted to give some sort of info but got harassed and pushed out for it?

 

[Gay Bowser]

Weird to say that about a multibillion dollar market. In fact, it's weird to refer to video games as just toys in this day and age. Some people build their careers around this stuff. I could go on about communities and making friends and helping people to destress after work/school. Not attacking you personally - it just irks me when people refer to video games as just toys.

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Why? Literal toys are also a multi-billion dollar market that people build their careers around. Some people build communities and make friends around toys, or use them to destress.

I have no problem thinking of video games as toys. They're literal playthings. That should be celebrated, not treated like a badge of shame.

People who get up in arms about games not being toys are the same sort of people who insist that the word "comics" is selling the field short, that they're really graphic novels. Meanwhile, all the people who make comics call them comics.

 

[TheUnseenTheUnheard]

Couldn't the Kojipro info just be a look at DS for PC?

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I was wondering about this as well. Death Stranding only just came out. I doubt they'd even show a teaser for their next game since it is years away.

 

[zombiejames]

Couldn't the Kojipro info just be a look at DS for PC?

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Why be secretive about a thing they've already announced?

 

[isahn]

You mean those that wanted to give some sort of info but got harassed and pushed out for it?

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Tom Warren and windows central have been on point on the xbox series x related stuff. It's the PS5 camp that sorely lacks sources

 

[Adum]

Why? Literal toys are also a multi-billion dollar market that people build their careers around. Some people build communities and make friends around toys, or use them to destress.

I have no problem thinking of video games as toys. They're literal playthings. That should be celebrated, not treated like a badge of shame.

People who get up in arms about games not being toys are the same sort of people who insist that the word "comics" is selling the field short, that they're really graphic novels. Meanwhile, all the people who make comics call them comics.

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Never personally cared about the comic/graphic novel thing. I kinda thought that people used graphic novel to refer to a really big comic book (like a bunch of spider-man volumes bundled together) Thanks for the generalization though I guess.

 

[Jade1962]

Why be secretive about a thing they've already announced?

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Have you no experience with Kojima? Plus as far as I know there hasn't been any actual DS PC footage or previews and it launches in early summer.

 

[gozu]

You mean those that wanted to give some sort of info but got harassed and pushed out for it?

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Well, we don't know why he did it. he might have had to study and needed the self-ban for self-control support.

With that said, (and this is not about Klee your post just reminded me of a pet peeve), I keep seeing this happen over and over and over again over the decades: Someone who did something nice for the community for free (maybe an emulator, or a mod, or a game..who was that dev who made one good game and left?) gets harassed by an ungrateful 5% or 10% of the community, while everybody else is giving ❤ and 🙏 .

Then they just abandon what they were doing because of that tiny minority of haters, and the remaining 90% lose out. The whole "this is why we can't have nice things" phenomenon.

I personally think it's a bad example to set. Does that mean my 50 tweets of support are worth less than 1 tweeted insult? What kind of message are you sending here? That if 100% of people are not nice to you, then "too bad for everyone else"? edit: I should specify that none of this applies to people with mental health issues such as depression who really should cut off sources of negativity.

This is earth, with humans. We're known to be shitty. There will ALWAYS be at least 10% of moronic assholes that you have to ignore or deal with. Always. No matter what. Abandoning the 90% just means the assholes won. So while I empathize and am grateful to those who can't handle the heat and fully support their right to withdraw for any reason, I don't respect them quite as much as those who stick with us 90% of non-assholes.


EDIT: I may have underestimated the level and intensity of asshole-ishness of those 5% of people. It's not something I can claim to understand, having never been on the end of it. Bottom line here is ...people can really excel at being evil pieces of shit? Depressing thoughts to contemplate.

 

[nekkid]

Weird to say that about a multibillion dollar market. In fact, it's weird to refer to video games as just toys in this day and age. Some people build their careers around this stuff. I could go on about communities and making friends and helping people to destress after work/school. Not attacking you personally - it just irks me when people refer to video games as just toys.

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People build their careers around Lego. Either working for them or using it. Doesn't mean journalists behave so strangely around it.

 

[john miller]

Well, we don't know why he did it. he might have had to study and needed the self-ban for self-control support.

With that said, (and this is not about Klee your post just reminded me of a pet peeve), I keep seeing this happen over and over and over again over the decades: Someone who did something nice for the community for free (maybe an emulator, or a mod, or a game..who was that dev who made one good game and left?) gets harassed by an ungrateful 5% or 10% of the community, while everybody else is giving ❤ and 🙏 .

Then they just abandon what they were doing because of that tiny minority of haters, and the remaining 90% lose out. The whole "this is why we can't have nice things" phenomenon.

I personally think it's a bad example to set. Does that mean my 50 tweets of support are worth less than 1 tweeted insult? What kind of message are you sending here? That if 100% of people are not nice to you, then "too bad for everyone else" ?

This is earth, with humans. We're known to be shitty. There will ALWAYS be at least 10% of moronic assholes that you have to ignore or deal with. Always. No matter what. Abandoning the 90% just means the assholes won. So while I empathize and am grateful to those who can't handle the heat and fully support their right to withdraw for any reason, I don't respect them quite as much as those who stick with us 90% of non-assholes.

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100% agree

 

[Deleted member 30077]

Microsoft wants this generation to end ASAP.

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They don't though. In fact they recently said that they're planning on keeping this gen alive a couple of years even after they launch their next gen console. I think you're misunderstanding Microsoft's strategy. They're trying to move beyond "generations" and selling consoles.

 

[foxbeldin]

Would be nice to have klee again around here.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

Would be nice to have klee again around here.

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Anyone with info and insight should stay away from this thread.

 

[Kemono]

Anyone with info and insight should stay away from this thread.

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Are the Sony Ninjas that bad?

 

[PJV3]

Would be nice to have klee again around here.

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i can hear the grinding of axes every time that name comes up.

 

[foxbeldin]

Are the Sony Ninjas that bad?

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I think he meant us.

 

[Deleted member 54073]

They don't though. In fact they recently said that they're planning on keeping this gen alive a couple of years even after they launch their next gen console. I think you're misunderstanding Microsoft's strategy. They're trying to move beyond "generations" and selling consoles.

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So much so they're releasing a brand new one this year and haven't stopped talking about it since last year?

 

[Gay Bowser]

They don't though. In fact they recently said that they're planning on keeping this gen alive a couple of years even after they launch their next gen console.

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Companies always say that.

Look at what they're doing. Are they supporting the XO with major new products? People don't like to hear it, but the XO has been pretty product-starved for about two years now. Their biggest announcements have been the studios they've been acquiring to build games in the future.

I don't think it's a coincidence at all that Halo Infinite and XSX are both hitting Q4 2020. It's a BotW thing: from Microsoft's perspective, dropping such a massive investment on the current consoles would sort of be a waste, when they can try to use it to launch the new console. If the XSX was delayed until spring, I think Halo absolutely would be as well.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

Are the Sony Ninjas that bad?

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I think he meant us.

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Right.

They've all dropped out for a reason.

 

[Thera]

Well, we don't know why he did it. he might have had to study and needed the self-ban for self-control support.

With that said, (and this is not about Klee your post just reminded me of a pet peeve), I keep seeing this happen over and over and over again over the decades: Someone who did something nice for the community for free (maybe an emulator, or a mod, or a game..who was that dev who made one good game and left?) gets harassed by an ungrateful 5% or 10% of the community, while everybody else is giving ❤ and 🙏 .

Then they just abandon what they were doing because of that tiny minority of haters, and the remaining 90% lose out. The whole "this is why we can't have nice things" phenomenon.

I personally think it's a bad example to set. Does that mean my 50 tweets of support are worth less than 1 tweeted insult? What kind of message are you sending here? That if 100% of people are not nice to you, then "too bad for everyone else" ?

This is earth, with humans. We're known to be shitty. There will ALWAYS be at least 10% of moronic assholes that you have to ignore or deal with. Always. No matter what. Abandoning the 90% just means the assholes won. So while I empathize and am grateful to those who can't handle the heat and fully support their right to withdraw for any reason, I don't respect them quite as much as those who stick with us 90% of non-assholes.

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Meh, what a take based on a lot of assumptions, shortcuts and weird maths.
And the whole suck it up rethoric...

 

[Transistor]

Well, we don't know why he did it. he might have had to study and needed the self-ban for self-control support.

With that said, (and this is not about Klee your post just reminded me of a pet peeve), I keep seeing this happen over and over and over again over the decades: Someone who did something nice for the community for free (maybe an emulator, or a mod, or a game..who was that dev who made one good game and left?) gets harassed by an ungrateful 5% or 10% of the community, while everybody else is giving ❤ and 🙏 .

Then they just abandon what they were doing because of that tiny minority of haters, and the remaining 90% lose out. The whole "this is why we can't have nice things" phenomenon.

I personally think it's a bad example to set. Does that mean my 50 tweets of support are worth less than 1 tweeted insult? What kind of message are you sending here? That if 100% of people are not nice to you, then "too bad for everyone else" ?

This is earth, with humans. We're known to be shitty. There will ALWAYS be at least 10% of moronic assholes that you have to ignore or deal with. Always. No matter what. Abandoning the 90% just means the assholes won. So while I empathize and am grateful to those who can't handle the heat and fully support their right to withdraw for any reason, I don't respect them quite as much as those who stick with us 90% of non-assholes.

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The hate and vitriol that 5% spat at them far outweighs any hugs and praise from the other 95%.

 

[anexanhume]

I think he meant us.

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Hell is other people.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

The hate and vitriol that 5% spat at them far outweighs any hugs and praise from the other 95%.

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yep that 5% may be small but they hate can be never ending even if it a small group of people .
A lot of people if they don't have to take it would just say fuck it and be done with it.

 

[gozu]

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Meh, what a take based on a lot of assumptions, shortcuts and weird maths.
And the whole suck it up rethoric...

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Yeah, as someone who suffers from depression, I didn't mean for it to come off as a suck it up rhetoric. I was amending my post to try and reflect that.

I was going for more of an "acceptance of mankind's flaws" tone.

The hate and vitriol that 5% spat at them far outweighs any hugs and praise from the other 95%.

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After thinking over your comment, It is possible I am still in denial about how hateful people can be, even after witnessing Trump's election full embrace and possible re-election after 3 years of crimes and disgracing the office.

 

[Silencerx98]

I mean, you have a few entitled individuals with a sense of superiority who blocked Klee just because they didn't like what he was saying

 

[Euler007]

Would be nice to have klee again around here.

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If the PS5 winds up slightly faster as he said the self ban should move from Klee to Colbert...

 

[Deleted member 23046]

Couldn't the Kojipro info just be a look at DS for PC?

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I was thinking the same thing, at least for his own tweet (not the post-it one).

 

[gozu]

yep that 5% may be small but they hate can be never ending even if it a small group of people .
A lot of people if they don't have to take it would just say fuck it and be done with it.

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[BradleyLove]

I mean, you have a few entitled individuals with a sense of superiority who blocked Klee just because they didn't like what he was saying

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I'd have swapped "entitled" for "arrogant".

 

[Deleted member 30077]

So much so they're releasing a brand new one this year and haven't stopped talking about it since last year?

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They obviously want to keep/increase their userbase and thus want to also sell next gen hardware. It's just not their focus. Read the context of my statement and look at what I was replying to.

Companies always say that.

Look at what they're doing. Are they supporting the XO with major new products? People don't like to hear it, but the XO has been pretty product-starved for about two years now. Their biggest announcements have been the studios they've been acquiring to build games in the future.

I don't think it's a coincidence at all that Halo Infinite and XSX are both hitting Q4 2020. It's a BotW thing: from Microsoft's perspective, dropping such a massive investment on the current consoles would sort of be a waste, when they can try to use it to launch the new console. If the XSX was delayed until spring, I think Halo absolutely would be as well.

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If they really wanted to move on from last gen and kill it then Halo would be exclusive to the XSX. They could easily do that but it brings a cost with it. Microsoft's strategy nowadays is clearly to get as many users as possible in their ecosystem even if it costs them next-gen hardware sales. I never meant that they totally don't care about selling any consoles next gen. That's why they're releasing all their games on PC and why they'll keep supporting the old gen with their first party games.

 

[Dust]

I had a dream in which my gf bought me a PS5...it looked like my fridge except it had a giant PS logo on it.

 

[Silencerx98]

I'd have swapped "entitled" for "arrogant".

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"Arrogant" is reserved for Sony because of their apparent refusal to share information :P

 

[Raide]

I had a dream in which my gf bought me a PS5...it looked like my fridge except it had a giant PS logo on it.

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Well, thats a solid upgrade from a Wine Cooler.

 

[Fafalada]

I have no problem thinking of video games as toys. They're literal playthings.

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Games at its most popular today, are equal parts Lego, Hollywood, Olympics, TV and Casino/Gambling(actual games, no cross media stuff), and maybe a decade away from becoming bigger than all of these combined. So reducing them to 'toys' is just underrepresenting the market instead of summarising it.

Of course its a socially defined construct, after all they're still called 'video' games decades after the term has lost all its meaning.

 

[ILikeFeet]

I had a dream in which my gf bought me a PS5...it looked like my fridge except it had a giant PS logo on it.

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Well, thats a solid upgrade from a Wine Cooler.

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The playstation grill, the playstation wine cooler, and the playstation refrigerator. The whole playstation bbq experience

 

[Gay Bowser]

Games at its most popular today, are equal parts Lego, Hollywood, Olympics, TV and Casino/Gambling(actual games, no cross media stuff), and maybe a decade away from becoming bigger than all of these combined. So reducing them to 'toys' is just underrepresenting the market instead of summarising it.

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Who says calling them toys is "reducing" them?

 

[Deleted member 10747]

Tom Warren and windows central have been on point on the xbox series x related stuff. It's the PS5 camp that sorely lacks sources

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Not what i was getting at.....

Well, we don't know why he did it. he might have had to study and needed the self-ban for self-control support.

With that said, (and this is not about Klee your post just reminded me of a pet peeve), I keep seeing this happen over and over and over again over the decades: Someone who did something nice for the community for free (maybe an emulator, or a mod, or a game..who was that dev who made one good game and left?) gets harassed by an ungrateful 5% or 10% of the community, while everybody else is giving ❤ and 🙏 .

Then they just abandon what they were doing because of that tiny minority of haters, and the remaining 90% lose out. The whole "this is why we can't have nice things" phenomenon.

I personally think it's a bad example to set. Does that mean my 50 tweets of support are worth less than 1 tweeted insult? What kind of message are you sending here? That if 100% of people are not nice to you, then "too bad for everyone else" ?

This is earth, with humans. We're known to be shitty. There will ALWAYS be at least 10% of moronic assholes that you have to ignore or deal with. Always. No matter what. Abandoning the 90% just means the assholes won. So while I empathize and am grateful to those who can't handle the heat and fully support their right to withdraw for any reason, I don't respect them quite as much as those who stick with us 90% of non-assholes.

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Not talking about Klee but in general. Also seriously rude!

I understand your point but you are stepping over negativity quite easily. Clearly you empathize with them a lot..... lol But good to know that you respect them less because they are "weaker" or don't want to deal with it...... Just so they can give you something... lol

 

[Edgar]

The playstation grill, the playstation wine cooler, and the playstation refrigerator. The whole playstation bbq experience

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[Trup1aya]

So much so they're releasing a brand new one this year and haven't stopped talking about it since last year?

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They've also committed to supporting the xb1 with all of their new first party software for at least a year after their new console releases...

Strange tactic for a company that allegedly wants this gen to end as soon as possible.