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Meelow

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Oct 31, 2017
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With Sony confirming PS5 specs, Xbox 4 likely being a 2020 console and Switch Pro possibly delay until next year, we could see the first time where the big 3 will launch a brand new system in the same year, Switch Pro obviously not being a brand new system but an upgrade is still exciting and could bring a nice bump for games on the Switch, PS5 and Xbox 4 is a whole new generation of PlayStation and Xbox will bring a whole new amount of games and hype.

If they all release within the same time or close, how do you think the public opinions will be on them? It's hard to say since we haven't seen any of these systems but next year will be pretty crazy if rumours are true.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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They'll all probably sell pretty well next year (if they all launch that year)

Probably too early to say on how well and for how long they'd all sell since they're not officially/fully revealed yet. Pricing, specs, games, are all gonna be big factors
 

Platy

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Oct 25, 2017
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The focus on stuff like 8k Will both not be impressive to the general public (which not even have 4k TV's) and raise the price pretty high. So my guess is that the switch will explode but the new consoles will take a while to start selling real good numbers.

Oh and the next Xbox will have a very bad name.
 

z0m3le

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Oct 25, 2017
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The nikkei report seems to be talking about a new generation nintendo device, not the current Switch, though it probably will be treated like a single platform with exclusives and next gen ports on the newer device... We aren't even sure of the form factor though, it's possible there is both a switch pro and a new console from Nintendo coming in the next 2 years or so
 

Heckler456

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Oct 25, 2017
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The focus on stuff like 8k Will both not be impressive to the general public (which not even have 4k TV's) and raise the price pretty high. So my guess is that the switch will explode but the new consoles will take a while to start selling real good numbers.

Oh and the next Xbox will have a very bad name.
There is no focus on 8K, not sure where you're getting that from. Sony and Microsoft know the market better than any of us, and 8k sure as heck ain't here yet.

Sony probably mentioned 8k support for future proofing, for stuff like Netflix, and the fact that it probably has hdmi 2.1. Games won't run at 8k, or try to, any time soon, let alone at launch.
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
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The nikkei report seems to be talking about a new generation nintendo device, not the current Switch, though it probably will be treated like a single platform with exclusives and next gen ports on the newer device... We aren't even sure of the form factor though, it's possible there is both a switch pro and a new console from Nintendo coming in the next 2 years or so
That doesn't make any sense. So they are going to have two separate handhelds that get different games?
 

ZaddyMattty

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Dec 4, 2017
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There is no focus on 8K, not sure where you're getting that from. Sony and Microsoft know the market better than any of us, and 8k sure as heck ain't here yet.

Sony probably mentioned 8k support for future proofing, for stuff like Netflix, and the fact that it probably has hdmi 2.1. Games won't run at 8k, or try to, any time soon, let alone at launch.

He's getting it from the fact that Sony chose to highlight it as one of the features. Not sure why you're confused regarding where he got that it from?
 

bsigg

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Oct 25, 2017
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The focus on stuff like 8k Will both not be impressive to the general public (which not even have 4k TV's) and raise the price pretty high. So my guess is that the switch will explode but the new consoles will take a while to start selling real good numbers.

Oh and the next Xbox will have a very bad name.

8K won't really be a talking point since I wouldn't expect Sony or MS to expect games to support it. It is part for the HDMI 2.1 standard so at the very least, those boxes will be able to support TVs and video content at 8K when that eventually happens.
 

z0m3le

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Oct 25, 2017
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That doesn't make any sense. So they are going to have two separate handhelds that get different games?
You mean like the Gameboy color, dsi or new 3ds didn't make sense? Honestly I think it will be more like the GBA, with the current Switch being like the Gameboy, every Gameboy game works on both, but Gameboy advance games will exist... It's just how it's marketed really, there is no hard rule saying they have to call the next system a successor, Apple and Samsung don't do this when they obsolete phones.
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
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You mean like the Gameboy color, dsi or new 3ds didn't make sense? Honestly I think it will be more like the GBA, with the current Switch being like the Gameboy, every Gameboy game works on both, but Gameboy advance games will exist... It's just how it's marketed really, there is no hard rule saying they have to call the next system a successor, Apple and Samsung don't do this when they obsolete phones.
GBA is a completely new gen and system. If a brand new system comes out next year, that is a big fuck you to anyone that got a switch in the first two-three years.
 

Deleted member 8791

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Oct 26, 2017
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GBA is a completely new gen and system. If a brand new system comes out next year, that is a big fuck you to anyone that got a switch in the first two-three years.
It will probably be the start to the Apple route for Nintendo. Switch 2, but Switch 1 is supported until Switch 3, and so on.
 

Heckler456

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Oct 25, 2017
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He's getting it from the fact that Sony chose to highlight it as one of the features. Not sure why you're confused regarding where he got that it from?
Choosing to highlight it does not equal "focus on". Also, like, they mentioned it once somewhere in the middle of the article, even going so far as to parenthesize it, so I don't even want to go so far as to say that they "highlighted" it.

Like I said, who knows why that's in the article. Maybe the guy asked "will it support 8k?", and Cerny just said "Sure", because it has HDMI 2.1.

The point of the matter is that games won't be striving to hit 8k any time soon, so this notion of "the sales will be a little slow because consumers won't be able to tell the difference between 4K and 8K" isn't really waranted.
 

z0m3le

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Oct 25, 2017
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GBA is a completely new gen and system. If a brand new system comes out next year, that is a big fuck you to anyone that got a switch in the first two-three years.
If it's not a new platform, it's really nothing like you are saying. You bought a ps4 pro in 2016? 2017? Well a PS5 is coming out in 2020 and will be far bigger disruption to the Playstation ecosystem than a new generation Switch, because there won't be clean breaks with a Switch, you'll be able to buy most of the software that comes out with that 2017 Switch, but in 2021 or 2022, you might see exclusive software and ports hit the new device that don't come to the current Switch, on the other hand, the Switch might continue to get games for the next 10 years regularly, I mean it's a modern platform that can handle just about any piece of software at some level of performance.
 

9-Volt

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Oct 27, 2017
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Really depends on their launch software. People only care about the games. Third party games will most likely be cross gen at the launch window, so it all comes to first/second party games.

Sony should have The Last of Us2 and Horizon 2 ready at the launch. They could also moneyhat something like they did with SF5.
MS could have new games from newly acquired studios (Ninja Theory game should be the center of attention), it might be a little early for Halo 7 or Gears 5.

Switch Pro probably won't have any exclusives over vanilla Switch, but should come some big third party games to show off its capabilities. I do expect Nintendo to have some moneyhatted games around the launch cause they're so good at moneyhatting.
 

Yasuke

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Oct 25, 2017
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lol at PS5 focusing on 8K. It's just something they're throwing in to future proof the console in the unlikely event it takes off next generation.

4K will absolutely be the focus.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The fact that Sony mentioned 8K support doesn't mean it will be a focus. 8K isn't even feasible with a single desktop GPU yet, there's no reason to think Sony's talking about anything other than upscaling.

Edit: Thinking about buying another Switch, so do hope the Switch Pro rumors are true. Has there been anything credible leaked in terms of specs?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It just depends on the games at launch. PS5 having PS4 will definitely help pad it's launch. Xbox and Switch should do the same.

It's a weird situation for MS, I think. They've done an amazing job with BC, so you can be certain Scarlett will support XB1, and probably 360 and OG Xbox as well. However, the quality of their exclusives is, well, a bit erratic, which might make BC somewhat less appealing. Further complicating things is the fact that a good portion of those games (and the rest going forward) are already playable on PC and, if you have the hardware, in a better state than you're likely to play them on Scarlett.
 

Hate

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm wondering how the publishers will handle porting ps5 and new xbox games to the Switch/pro.
 

MysticGon

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Oct 31, 2017
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Very well for Sony and Microsoft. It will be 7 years since their previous gens launch and thanks to new render advancements diminished returns isn't even part of the discussion this time. All the QOL improvements games will get with SSD will be worth it alone.

Switch? It's not on the cutting edge but could make VR more accessible. Otherwise it'll be business as usual running up the scoreboard in Japan and missing out on your flagship 3rd games in the west. It'll still be successful though.
 

Kaivan

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Switch will be left behind even further and receive even less 3rd party support than it is today. Especially after PS5 and XB4 really take off and no more cross-gen games being developed. Switch Pro is still a Switch, after all, not a next-gen Nintendo console by any means.