You're right. Actually, he would have probably just gotten the RTP flag to begin with.
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NFL: Myles Garrett hit Mason Rudolph over the head with his own helmet [Update: Fully Reinstated to the NFL]
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You're right. Actually, he would have probably just gotten the RTP flag to begin with.
Which constitutes assault as well. You can't condemn one and then condone another. The fact is physical confrontations happen in all sports and very rarely is anybody charged let alone arrested. That's just the way it is.
I'm not up on hockey, but the only incidents I know of where courts got involved were very severe. Anyway, sports are seen with a lot of leeway in that regard. If he had concussed or split Mason's head then they would probably get involved, but there usually has to be some level of significant damage and egregiously unprovoked. I mean in terms of aggression and physical play, football is only one step away from actual combat sports like boxing, where dudes have bitten ears off or fought with loaded gloves and never faces charges.
I am, you morons defending a guy hitting someone with a helmet are the children here.
Trying to smash in someone's head with their own helmet isn't a football play, so this is an incorrect comparison.
It's like the difference between breaking someone's leg with a careless tackle in soccer and grabbing a player by the head and smashing it into the goalpost after a goal is scored.
That isn't any pattern of behavior. He's got fined for a couple borderline late hits. Just like about every defensive player in the NFL.
You're comparing a helmet strike to a fist? The person doing the swinging isn't exactly glass joe l, there was some real force behind that.
Nope. But I'll tell you I told you so when he quietly applies for reinstatement in the off-season and the NFL grants it because the media and public will have moved on from the story.
The NFL has allowed killers and rapists to take the field with less punishment and yet you think they are go over the top and ban one of the best young stars in the league for over a year over this? You are dreaming.
Fights happening in a bar and on a football field is also an incorrect comparison. Lots of things go on on a football field that wouldn't be permitted off.
Punching some in the face is an entirely different ordeal than swinging a 6 lb helmet at their skull
I mean Brady has played in over 50 more games than Russel Wilson and Cam Newton in the last 10 years and has gotten 2 less RTP penalties than Newton and is tied with Russel Wilson, not sure why Brady is always the poster boy of complaints about roughing the passer
Yikes and somehow Patriot fans are the bad guys of NFLEra, I've laid it out in previous posts but I don't believe Brady has been a Trump supporter for years if you wanna check it out
Uhhh Myles Garret is absolutely known for his dirty play
he even addressed it before the season
also why the fuck does every thread on this site have to become about Trump?
Regardless what the overlap it, the NFL is in the right in how seriously they're taking this situation - and the MLB is in the wrong in how lax they are with pitchers throwing a hard object 90-100 mph at a defenseless player's head.
We will see. I do think he will get more games. You cant do this crap on the field.
Which killers and rapists were allowed on the field with video evidence? I personally believe he'll be back by the start of next season, but wouldn't be shocked to see a 4 game suspension.
real mature kid. Name calling because some people say Rudolph instigated and deserves punishment too. Guy went after Garrett's junk 2 fucking times, at that point I'm swinging on someone too no question
Max Kellerman talked about this exact same scenario this morning, and got shamed for it. Throwing 100 MPH fastballs and nailing them in the head or causing them bodily harm on purpose is way worse than what happened to Mason last night.
Wah his junk. Gimme a fucking break. Not even comparable. Fucking moron.
Yes, and those things involve playing football, not trying to knock someone unconscious after a play is over.
I will grant you the video evidence part, but the NFL can't allow pieces of shit like Tyreek Hill, Greg Hardy and countless others to take the field and then at the same time ban this guy from the league for over a year for this.
Then again the NFL is hypocritical and inconsistent as fuck so maybe they would do that.
That isn't Antonio Brown and he swung it never connected.
During Saturday night's Texans-Dolphins preseason game, a one-on-one between defensive end Antonio Smith and offensive guard Richie Incognito escalated when Smith ripped Incognito's helmet off of him and swung it at his head, just missing the target.
They're both assault under the law, so uh...yes. If you wanna talk about legal charges then you can't ignore one just because it's a lesser charge.
Technically yes. But he can apply for reinstatement in the off-season and the league will grant it. So essentially he is just suspended for the rest of the season.
Tyreek Hill ain't miss one game this season after his antics. Myles Garrett will be suited up week 1 2020 guaranteed
lol you kids are so predictable nowadays. If someone kicks you in the dick, then you get up and walk away and they come back and try to punch you in the dick or grab your dick you just standing there watching?
Will probably only be 6 games as he gets quietly reinstated in the offseason
It essentially is just 6 games though. He is just suspended for the rest of the season and playoffs. And since the Browns aren't making the playoffs that means he is suspended for basically 6 games.
They often don't involve playing football. You ever been in a pile trying to get a loose football? Prepare to have you fingers bent back and possibly get punched in the nuts. Crackback blocks 40 yards from a play breaking a guys jaw. I get technically it's involved in playing football. A football field is a bar and there won't be any charges filed against him.
There is actual video of Miles Garrett they NFL couldn't prove anything with HIll. I agree he should not be playing but there is a difference.
Hes going to get reinstated after the off season meeting with Goodell. No way he isn't going to be.
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Hey clown im not a fucking kid.
You must be new to the NFL.
IN fact let me go on to say that if the Browns were a more legitimate playoff team he likely would have returned this year.
So the smart thing smart players do in every single sport.
Whoops, did i type Brown... LOLOLOL. And yes, he did connect, thats the only reason he got 4 gaes. The rules are clear a swing is an ejection it's the connection that get the additional games. In the video you even hear Glazer start to say.. "full on into..." before he points out the ref being right there.
I don't think charges will be filed either, but that "technically" is important in legal terms. The NFL (and the NFLPA) don't want the precedent of players getting arrested for dirty hits during plays, so that would never happen.
But swinging a helmet at a player's head during a brawl is just pure violence, it has nothing to do with the game at that point. It's like I mentioned in my original post, the difference between injuring someone with a soccer tackle and slamming his head into a post while play has stopped.
To make sure everybody knows they're gone.
"I'm out, really. GONE. Don't think I'm kidding. I'm not coming back! BYE."
Because when you see players get flags for barely touching Brady's helmet while Cam and Russ have been driven into the ground and hit in the head with no calls, people are going to start to have questions. A part of that is both Cam and Russ are far more mobile than Brady, and all the scrambling behind the line of scrimmage behind offensive lines that haven't been as good as Brady's throughout his career also could play a factor into that stat.
You can keep asking that as much as you want, but I'm not taking the bait. The NFL is historically inconsistent and unbalanced when it comes to player punishment. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if they got this wrong as well.
But common sense says the NFL will not want to drag this out or draw anymore attention to it than it already has. They want this to go away. So they will suspend him for the rest of the season and then quietly reinstate him in the off season omce the attention is gone and nobody will bat an eye. They are not going to continue to ban one of the most promising players in the league for over a year for his first offense even though it was an egregious one. It's not in their best interest and the NFL always acts in its own best interest at all times.
I look forward to saying I told you so though lol